Free SMTP providers...
Stroller
please..?
I am regulary finding now that customers of mine are signed up to a BT
broadband service that provides no email facilities. For most of them
BT's advice of "go & get yerself a hotmail account, mate" is adequate,
however I have recently encoutered a customer who recieves his work
email on his laptop via POP3 to a regular mail-client & who wishes to
reply to these emails in the regular way.
This seems like a reasonable request to the customer, who was
previously able to send SMTP email when he was on Tiscali's dial-up
service, and whilst I feel it's expletive poor of BT not to provide
their customers with email services, I'd find it difficult to say to
him "you can't do it, go away & change your ISP". Unfortunately
whoever supplies the POP3 services for this guy's office doesn't seem
to offer him an authenticated SMTP service.
A quick Google turns up this sit
<http://freemailguide.com/free_pop3_email.html> which mentions a couple
of providers who do free web / POP3 email & who allow you to use their
SMTP servers if you're registered. They are <http://www.mail.ru/> &
<http://www.mail15.com/>, whose sites are in Russian only and
<http://www.nerdshack.com/> who are not accepting new accouts at
present.
The only service that immediately seems suitable is
<http://www.hotpop.com/> - you open a free POP3 account & they give you
SMTP access, but they require painfully copious amounts of demographic
information during signup, which they admit to selling for marketing
purposes, and they require you to check the POP3 account before you can
authenticate for SMTP. I can see their reasoning - they have servers &
stuff to pay for - but does anyone know of any better services..?
Thanks in advance for all advices,
Stroller.
Mutley
"Stroller" <stro...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone suggest a free supplier of SMTP service for broadband users,
> please..?
>
> I am regulary finding now that customers of mine are signed up to a BT
> broadband service that provides no email facilities. For most of them
> BT's advice of "go & get yerself a hotmail account, mate" is adequate,
> however I have recently encoutered a customer who recieves his work
> email on his laptop via POP3 to a regular mail-client & who wishes to
> reply to these emails in the regular way.
BT Broadband Basic, use mail.btopenworld.com or mail.btinternet.com
and you can still use your pop accounts as you normal do...
Julian Knight
Don't know about free but for £20-£30 per year you can have a fully hosted site
including SMTP/POP3/IMAP from UK Web Solutions Direct. I run all my email from
there including addresses for extended family over two domains (both point to
the same host). Works well.
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Beck
> please..?
>
> I am regulary finding now that customers of mine are signed up to a BT
> broadband service that provides no email facilities. For most of them
> BT's advice of "go & get yerself a hotmail account, mate" is adequate,
> however I have recently encoutered a customer who recieves his work
> email on his laptop via POP3 to a regular mail-client & who wishes to
> reply to these emails in the regular way.
>
> This seems like a reasonable request to the customer, who was
> previously able to send SMTP email when he was on Tiscali's dial-up
> service, and whilst I feel it's expletive poor of BT not to provide
> their customers with email services, I'd find it difficult to say to
> him "you can't do it, go away & change your ISP". Unfortunately
> whoever supplies the POP3 services for this guy's office doesn't seem
> to offer him an authenticated SMTP service.
I am pretty sure that Yahoo offer pop3 access. You don't get it automatically,
but have to set it up in the mail settings once the account is opened. Also,
Hotmail can be setup in some email clients to send and receive hotmail.
Martyn Dewar
Not anymore you cant. the BT servers are now hosted by yahoo and require
authentication. - If you have a btyahoo non "BASIC MAIL" account you can
use them too.
MA
> Can anyone suggest a free supplier of SMTP service for broadband
> users, please..?
>
Not free, but I'd recommend Claranet mail & news for £9.99pa
http://www.uk.clara.net/btbroadband/
Chris Comley
a year shouldbn't be too much for
up to five pop boxes
a/v scanning
anti-spam
web
imap
pop
auth SMPT
SecurePOP
SecureSMTP
should it?
Stroller <stro...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
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Networkguy
> please..?
Not what you were asking for but will do what you want
Paul Cummins
martyn...@nospam-zen.co.uk (Martyn Dewar) wrote:
> Not anymore you cant. the BT servers are now hosted by yahoo and
> require authentication.
Funny, I can...
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John Naismith
No it won't as anyone* running a mailserver has dynamically assigned
IP address ranges blocked as that's where ~80% of spam is relayed
from.
Therefore running a mailserver on the ISPs mentioned in this thread is
unlikely to be a satisfactory solution. YMMV of course.
I doubt very much whether anyone is likely to provide a free smarthost
either as it'd get abused in seconds.......
*anyone with half a brain that is ;-)
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Martyn Dewar
> In article <4137b929$0$22748$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk>,
> martyn...@nospam-zen.co.uk (Martyn Dewar) wrote:
>
>
>>Not anymore you cant. the BT servers are now hosted by yahoo and
>>require authentication.
>
>
> Funny, I can...
>
BT says otherwise however :p - If you are authenticating your session,
it will work fine (if you have a btinternet / yahoo.co.uk email). If
not, BT claims it will stop working "soon".
Networkguy
> IP address ranges blocked as that's where ~80% of spam is relayed
> from.
>
> Therefore running a mailserver on the ISPs mentioned in this thread is
> unlikely to be a satisfactory solution. YMMV of course.
It does vary. Works fine over here on the end of an NTL broadband pipe which
is a good thing considering the state of NTLs own mail servers,
Stroller
No, it won't - it won't run on a Mac..!
Having said that, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to enable
Postfix for him, which is what I intend to do for my own laptop. But
at the rates I charge, it's probably cheaper for him to subscribe to
the Claranet service than to pay me to fiddle with it. This also saves
me installing Postfix under Jaguar (now that I consider it further) or
the risk of his configuration getting b0rked at a future upgrade.
Thanks to all who have posted for their help,
Stroller
Gareth
"Martyn Dewar" <martyn...@nospam-zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:41388154$0$22749$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
It already has stopped working in a way - you now have to dial in via DUN or
equivalent every 90 days or the account will be terminated. WAP dial-up
seems to have been disabled.
Gareth.
spam
> We don't offer a *free* account, but for a business class customer £25
> a year shouldbn't be too much for
>
> up to five pop boxes
> a/v scanning
> anti-spam
> web
> imap
> pop
> auth SMPT
> SecurePOP
> SecureSMTP
>
> should it?
No, but he *did not ask for a quote* on any of those products, did he?
Therefore your message is effectively spam.
The Grass is greener
>
>Therefore your message is effectively spam.
>
And you, buddy-by, should change your posting address. You are using a
domain owned by Hormel foods. How would you like it if someone used
your mail address to post with ?
Alex Makoque
wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a free supplier of SMTP service for broadband users,
>please..?
You could try running an SMTP server on your own machine. I used to
use a freeware program called SMarTPost when I was using an aol dialup
account, so I could continue to use Eudora to send emai by SMTP. It's
a tiny file at 237KB, and once running, from memory you just enter
"localhost" as your smtp server. It's available from:
http://www.helpbytes.co.uk/smtp/index.php
I see no reason why it shouldn't work with a broadband account.
hth, Alex.
MA
"Alex Makoque" <no_spam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The main reason is some providers such as AOL will block SMTP from known
DHCP addresses from dial up and ADSL IP pools, so unless they are using a
static IP, I wouldn't advise it.
Shevek
AOL are very (overly?) strict with their IP banning. One of our users
who has AOL at home set up their Out Of Office to forward messages
home but misspelled her email address. This created a mailing loop of
AOL Admin messages and OOO messages (24 thousand over a 2 week period)
and AOL banned our IP saying we were spamming!
Which is fair enough I suppose ;-) But considering they were all to 1
(incorrect) email address they should have at least spotted the likely
cause!), but it was probably a robot doing the IP banning.
We had to contact them to get our IP un-banned which took a few days
and caused us a bit of bother as some clients of ours use AOL!
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poster
>This created a mailing loop of AOL Admin messages and OOO messages
>(24 thousand over a 2 week period) and AOL banned our IP saying we
When a spammer 'hit' one of my domains, 44,000 messages arrived in a
few hours... I was shocked that the Freeserve system didn't lock me
out (mailbox was 400++ MB in size) but then again it might have only
been run to check on the user mailboxes once every 24 hours :-)
It's good that Claranet's mail filtering has a counter and stops any
rules if it has seen the mail beforehand, so doesn't get into a loop
in the first place :-) Peter M.
Chris Comley
familiar...
sp...@spam.com (spam) wrote:
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