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BluntChisel

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:00:04 AM3/20/11
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I'm looking for a new ADSL router to replace a very old one that is becoming
unreliable. My requirements are:
1) Low power consumption
1) At least 4 gigabit ethernet ports

I haven't made precise measurements, but I reckon my current router consumes
at least 5 watts, because both it and it's wall-wart are always warm to the
touch. I need to have it switched on all the time, so power consumption is
an issue. Also, I suspect the current router's wall-wart is not a modern
switch-mode design, because it is bulky and runs warm.

Can anyone suggest a router that has lower-than-average power consumption?


Nick

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:31:16 AM3/20/11
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My old router uses 4 watts. Measured at the wall socket.

How much money were you hoping to save? I guess you would save 75p per
watt per annum.

Bob Eager

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:38:23 AM3/20/11
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Rather more than that (depending on supplier). A bit more than a pound.

But hardly worth worrying about, in the scheme of things...that's down at
the 'noise' level.

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Nick

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Mar 20, 2011, 9:04:29 AM3/20/11
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On 20/03/2011 11:38, Bob Eager wrote:

>> My old router uses 4 watts. Measured at the wall socket.
>>
>> How much money were you hoping to save? I guess you would save 75p per
>> watt per annum.
>
> Rather more than that (depending on supplier). A bit more than a pound.
>

Well I could just admit I was wrong and had looked at an old Tariff.

However as this is usenet... I have to ask how much you factored in the
need to increase heating bills if the router power (and consequent heat)
was reduced ;o)


Manticore

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Mar 20, 2011, 8:18:54 AM3/20/11
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"BluntChisel" <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote in message
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Even in these days of austerity measures, worrying about the power
consumption of a router and its wall-wart is anal in the extreme. You may
save about five quid PER YEAR between the best and the worst power
consumption - and if that REALLY means so much to you, perhaps you shouldn't
have broadband at all, thereby making greater savings.

Get a life my friend and enjoy it, for life is too short to be worrying
about five quid a year :-)


Bob Eager

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Mar 20, 2011, 10:32:37 AM3/20/11
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Ah, I did. Otherwise it would have been a bit more than a bit more than a
pound!

David

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Mar 20, 2011, 10:46:43 AM3/20/11
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"Manticore" <no...@valid.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Get a life my friend and enjoy it, for life is too short to be worrying
> about five quid a year :-)

I agree.

I have a friend who turns room light out when he is only going out of that
room for a couple of minutes.

Regards
David

tin...@isbd.co.uk

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Mar 20, 2011, 1:12:06 PM3/20/11
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BluntChisel <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote:
> I'm looking for a new ADSL router to replace a very old one that is becoming
> unreliable. My requirements are:
> 1) Low power consumption
> 1) At least 4 gigabit ethernet ports
>
> I haven't made precise measurements, but I reckon my current router consumes
> at least 5 watts, because both it and it's wall-wart are always warm to the
> touch. I need to have it switched on all the time, so power consumption is
> an issue. Also, I suspect the current router's wall-wart is not a modern
> switch-mode design, because it is bulky and runs warm.
>
5 watts, say 125 watt-hours per day, 1kwh (1 unit) every 8 days. So
about 1.5 or 2 pence per day. Less than £10/year. I can think of
better ways of saving money! :-)

> Can anyone suggest a router that has lower-than-average power consumption?
>
>

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PeterC

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Mar 20, 2011, 2:21:23 PM3/20/11
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:31:16 +0000, Nick wrote:

Very roughly ( but OK taking into consideration the inaccuracies of
measurements) 1W is about 9kWh (units) per annum, so over a quid in a year.
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Scott

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Mar 20, 2011, 2:22:58 PM3/20/11
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:46:43 -0000, "David" <david...@tesco.net>
wrote:

My great aunt insisted in not leaving sockets with nothing plugged in
as she believed the electricity would escape through the holes.

Mike Civil

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Mar 20, 2011, 2:47:33 PM3/20/11
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In article <4d85de6e$0$3818$bed6...@gradwell.net>,

BluntChisel <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a router that has lower-than-average power consumption?

If you're looking to run at a minimum then split the DSL modem and
routing functions. Get a DSL modem (D-Link DSL-320B, Netgear DM111P,
or equivalent) which can be left on 24/7 to keep the DLM happy, and a
separate router (with associated wireless if appropriate) which can be
turned off when not in use, perhaps via one of those smart mains plugs
(which, unless you can get one free from an energy supplier, will probably
cost more than you'll save in electricity).

Brian Gregory [UK]

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Mar 20, 2011, 3:41:47 PM3/20/11
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"BluntChisel" <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote in message
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I think routers with a built in ADSL modem and with 1Gb/s Ethernet ports are
pretty rare.

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Andy Burns

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:54:20 PM3/20/11
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BluntChisel wrote:

> My requirements are:
> 1) Low power consumption

> I reckon my current router consumes
> at least 5 watts, because both it and it's wall-wart are always warm to the
> touch. I need to have it switched on all the time, so power consumption is
> an issue.

5 watts used 24 hours a day equates to less than 45 units per year, or
about £5 worth of electricity ... is it *really* an issue?

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:56:52 PM3/20/11
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Yes. There is little point really. Better to get one ADSL router with
one 100MPS port and couple that to a gigabit switch.

DrTeeth

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Mar 20, 2011, 6:05:44 PM3/20/11
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:46:43 -0000, just as I was about to take a
herb, "David" <david...@tesco.net> disturbed my reverie and wrote:

>I have a friend who turns room light out when he is only going out of that
>room for a couple of minutes.

I didn't know we were friends <g>. Is your friend also anal about
leaving the fridge door open like a 'friend' of mine LOL.
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George Weston

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Mar 20, 2011, 6:39:54 PM3/20/11
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Only to those who would argue for years as to exactly how many angels
could stand on the head of a pin.
;-)

George

WCZ

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Mar 21, 2011, 4:45:01 AM3/21/11
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"BluntChisel" <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote in message
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Move to an LLU line with Be or O2 and turn the router off when you don't
need it. You can buy any router then as there is no DLM to much up with the
on\off cycle.

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Gordon Henderson

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Mar 21, 2011, 6:05:59 AM3/21/11
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In article <4d85de6e$0$3818$bed6...@gradwell.net>,
BluntChisel <wef...@rge.rgrg> wrote:

It's hard to get away from using lots of power when you have high-speed
switching, and as others have said, overall, the power usage isn't that
huge anyway...

However... The only router I know with a Gb Ethernet port is the Draytek
2820 series - and that only has one Gb port and 3 10/100's ...

So - how about this for an option: Get a Draytek Vigor 120 modem -
that's a modem only, it's not a router - then couple that with a router
which can do the PPPoE side of things and have Gb ports - e.g.

http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12417

Then you can turn the router off, but leave the ADSL Modem on - which
is probably a good thing to do anyway if you're on a BT wholesale line.

Gordon

DrTeeth

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Mar 21, 2011, 9:46:29 AM3/21/11
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:05:59 +0000 (UTC), just as I was about to take
a herb, Gordon Henderson <gordon...@drogon.net> disturbed my
reverie and wrote:

>Then you can turn the router off, but leave the ADSL Modem on - which
>is probably a good thing to do anyway if you're on a BT wholesale line.

The OP would probably like to save as much �sd as possible ;-).

Andy Champ

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Mar 21, 2011, 3:49:19 PM3/21/11
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On 20/03/2011 22:39, George Weston wrote:
>
> Only to those who would argue for years as to exactly how many angels
> could stand on the head of a pin.
> ;-)
>

That famous medieval debate sounds a lot less silly when one finds out
that the two possible answers were "Infinite" and "Finite" rather than
10 or 20.

And IIRC they dance.

Though others may disagree...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

Andy

Andy Champ

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Mar 21, 2011, 3:52:29 PM3/21/11
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On 21/03/2011 13:46, DrTeeth wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:05:59 +0000 (UTC), just as I was about to take
> a herb, Gordon Henderson<gordon...@drogon.net> disturbed my
> reverie and wrote:
>
>> Then you can turn the router off, but leave the ADSL Modem on - which
>> is probably a good thing to do anyway if you're on a BT wholesale line.
>
> The OP would probably like to save as much £sd as possible ;-).

What ADSL router has a price label like _that_ on it?

It occurs to me that this is less power than my central heating pump.
Comparable with my alarm clock, cooker, microwave, coffee maker and VHS
recorder, all of which are on 24/7.

If you can save a pound (or 75p, or even 15 bob) a year how long will it
take to pay for the new router?

Andy

The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 21, 2011, 4:49:07 PM3/21/11
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30 years?

Howver in the case of my SERVER goimng to 15W from 60W and getting more
storage too was a no brainer for 200 notes.

> Andy

Mark

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Mar 22, 2011, 5:34:01 AM3/22/11
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:49:07 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Andy Champ wrote:
>> On 21/03/2011 13:46, DrTeeth wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:05:59 +0000 (UTC), just as I was about to take
>>> a herb, Gordon Henderson<gordon...@drogon.net> disturbed my
>>> reverie and wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then you can turn the router off, but leave the ADSL Modem on - which
>>>> is probably a good thing to do anyway if you're on a BT wholesale line.
>>>

>>> The OP would probably like to save as much Łsd as possible ;-).


>>
>> What ADSL router has a price label like _that_ on it?
>>
>> It occurs to me that this is less power than my central heating pump.
>> Comparable with my alarm clock, cooker, microwave, coffee maker and VHS
>> recorder, all of which are on 24/7.
>>
>> If you can save a pound (or 75p, or even 15 bob) a year how long will it
>> take to pay for the new router?
>>
>
>30 years?
>
>Howver in the case of my SERVER goimng to 15W from 60W and getting more
>storage too was a no brainer for 200 notes.

I'd be interested in the spec of that server. I need to build one
which will have to sit in a cupboard so must be low power.
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The Natural Philosopher

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Mar 22, 2011, 6:54:41 AM3/22/11
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Mark wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:49:07 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Andy Champ wrote:
>>> On 21/03/2011 13:46, DrTeeth wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:05:59 +0000 (UTC), just as I was about to take
>>>> a herb, Gordon Henderson<gordon...@drogon.net> disturbed my
>>>> reverie and wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then you can turn the router off, but leave the ADSL Modem on - which
>>>>> is probably a good thing to do anyway if you're on a BT wholesale line.
>>>> The OP would probably like to save as much £sd as possible ;-).

>>> What ADSL router has a price label like _that_ on it?
>>>
>>> It occurs to me that this is less power than my central heating pump.
>>> Comparable with my alarm clock, cooker, microwave, coffee maker and VHS
>>> recorder, all of which are on 24/7.
>>>
>>> If you can save a pound (or 75p, or even 15 bob) a year how long will it
>>> take to pay for the new router?
>>>
>> 30 years?
>>
>> Howver in the case of my SERVER goimng to 15W from 60W and getting more
>> storage too was a no brainer for 200 notes.
>
> I'd be interested in the spec of that server. I need to build one
> which will have to sit in a cupboard so must be low power.

I used a micro ATX board in a small case. Intel DM510 type board.

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D510MO/D510MO-overview.htm

Twin hard disks, no CDROM, no screen or keyboard. 1 gig of ram, Debian
linux, +samba so it serves windows and NFS protocols.

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