news.individual.net problem on plusnet?
J B
For the last couple of days I haven't been able to get onto
news.individual.net and this site http://myreader.co.uk/msg/1122122007.aspx
suggests it's a plusnet issue.
I change to port 80 etc but that didn't make any difference, then lo and
behold it seems fine today!
Anyone else had a problem?
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J B
Invalid
writes
Log on my Connect server shows no missed collection ( it tries every 5
minutes) in the last four days.
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Flyi�g �u� 2�10 +
I wonder if it's anything to do with this J B. NIN keep sending this email,
in fact I got another one yesterday:
"a week before christmas, the IP address of News.Individual.NET /
NEWS.Individual.DE was changed, and the old address will stop working
after the holiday as we have to switch off the old machine.
You are receiving this email because our logs show that you're still logging
in at the old machine, which is probably caused by not using the DNS name
"news.individual.net" in your newsreader, but instead the IP address that
name used to point to, namely 130.133.1.4; this also means that YOU HAVE TO
CHANGE THE SERVER ADDRESS otherwise news.individual.net will stop working
for you as you'll be unable to connect once the old box is powered down.
While we recommend using the proper DNS name (so a manual change won't
be necessary in the future), here are the new IP addresses to use:
news.individual.de 130.133.4.10
news.individual.net 130.133.4.11
Please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions."
Strangely though I have always used the DNS name in my newsreader set up and
have never, ever used an IP address. So far I have had no problems, but
have told them this and asked for clarification.
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J B
news:7q66gnF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> I wonder if it's anything to do with this J B. NIN keep sending this
> email, in fact I got another one yesterday:
I didn't get that e mail, but I used to have news.ndividual.net in the
server name and 119 in the server port.
I changed this to Port80.individual.net and put 80 in the server port box
It made no difference yesterday, but seems fine today!
Plusnet say they have 'no reported issues' despite two folks in that initial
thread saying that they'd reported it to plusnet!!
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J B
George Weston
No.
I'm on Plusnet and work through N.I.N. using either Windows Live Mail or
Thunderbird.
No problems here.
George
Denis McMahon
> Strangely though I have always used the DNS name in my newsreader set up and
> have never, ever used an IP address. So far I have had no problems, but
> have told them this and asked for clarification.
Maybe the name is hard-coded to the old ip in your hosts file?
Someone might have suggested doing this a few years ago because you had
a DNS lookup issue, and you've forgotten you did it?
To see where to look for this file for your operating system, look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file
Using a suitable text editor delete the line for news.individual.net
Rgds
Denis McMahon
Flyi�g �u� 2�10 + on netbook
Spot on Denis. It was only on one computer on my network, and I've
absolutely no memory of having added it in the past. Must be due tothe fact
that I'm over 21 by just over 3� times. :) Again many thanks for that.
Unfortunately it won't let me save any amendments. I get the error message;
*Cannot create the C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file"
Make sure that the path and filename are correct"
I was trying to edit it by opening in notepad but it seems that I can only
then save it as a separate txt file. Presumably I must have done it in the
past, but don't recollect how to do so.
I've also followed the instructions on
http://www.ehow.com/how_5225562_edit-windows-hosts-file.html which don't
appear to be very disimilar to what I was doing and that gives me the same
error message as well.
I've tried it on twocomputers, both with Windows XP Home Edition Service
pack 3 and both give the same error message. Doh. Any suggestions as to
what I am doing wrong?
Invalid
netbook <flyi...@tiscali.co.uk> writes
Falling foul of XP's attempts to prevent people screwing things up by
setting privileges on files. You probably only have read & execute
privs.
Either change the privileges explicitly, or save it as some other name,
then go in and delete the old one and rename the new one, or save it
elsewhere, and copy it across.
Regards
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Flyi�g �u� 2�10 +
How do I find privileges? The other alternative you suggest seems a trifle
complicated for me.
Maurice
default only administrator level accounts can write to system files.
Maurice
Denis McMahon
It's a protected file. You need administrator privs under nt / xp /
vista / win 7 type variants to write to it.
This is because changing that file is a technique that various malicious
software has used in the past. Anti virus / spyware etc software might
also be trying to protect the file.
Method 1. Try right clicking notepad and choosing the "run as
administrator" option if there is one, then opening the file from inside
the "admin" notepad.
Method 2. Login to a user with administrator privs. You might then need
to do 1 as well.
Method 3. Reboot into safe mode. Then 1, or 2 and 1.
Rgds
Denis McMahon
Flyi�g �u� 2�10 + on netbook
As I have always been the adminstrator (well only user) on these two
computers it was worrying that the folder had suddenly become read only.
However it's apparently Spybot that is most likely the guilty party when it
adds the addresses of dubious sites to the hosts folder. It does this and
re-routes them to your own 127.0.0.1 address so that you wouldn't yorself
get routed to a bad site. from the suspicious one I never thought that
simply unticking the 'read only' box would work, so hadn't tried it. I
suppose that is safe enough as trojans etc wouldn't be able to untick them
anyway, as it has to be done manually. All sorted now.
Denis McMahon
Doh
Ok, I missed the bleeding obvious. I'll cut myself now.
Rgds
Denis McMahon
Flyi�g �u� 2�10 +
You and me both. :(
Graham J
In my experience with Vista (not tried Windows 7) even an administrator
can't edit the HOSTS file in situ. Have to create a copy elsewhere, edit it
as desired, then copy it into the correct place ...
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Al Bowlly
blew....
> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 +" <flyi...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:7q7nkoF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Denis McMahon wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Spot on Denis. It was only on one computer on my network, and
>>>>>> I've absolutely no memory of having added it in the past. Must be
>>>>>> due tothe fact that I'm over 21 by just over 3Πtimes. :) Again
By default, if you try to modify your hosts file in Vista, it will not
let you save it. It tells you that you don't have permission. To
successfully modify the hosts file, run notepad.exe as an administrator
and open the file.
1) Browse to Start -> All Programs -> Accessories
2) Right click "Notepad" and select "Run as administrator"
3) Click "Continue" on the UAC prompt
4) Click File -> Open
5) Browse to "C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc"
6) Change the file filter drop down box from "Text Documents (*.txt)" to
"All Files (*.*)"
7) Select "hosts" and click "Open"
8) Make the needed changes and close Notepad. Save when prompted.
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Graham J
[snip]
>>
>> In my experience with Vista (not tried Windows 7) even an administrator
>> can't edit the HOSTS file in situ. Have to create a copy elsewhere,
>> edit it as desired, then copy it into the correct place ...
>
>
> By default, if you try to modify your hosts file in Vista, it will not
> let you save it. It tells you that you don't have permission. To
> successfully modify the hosts file, run notepad.exe as an administrator
> and open the file.
How does this differ from logging on as administrator, then running notepad?
This is a serious question ...
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Graham J
Christof Meerwald
> [snip]
>> By default, if you try to modify your hosts file in Vista, it will not
>> let you save it. It tells you that you don't have permission. To
>> successfully modify the hosts file, run notepad.exe as an administrator
>> and open the file.
> How does this differ from logging on as administrator, then running notepad?
> This is a serious question ...
Microsoft has introduced UAC (User Account Control) with Windows Vista, see
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/user-account-control.aspx
"Even when you use an administrator account, User Account Control provides
heightened security. By default, most programs run with the permissions
of a standard user, which limits the potential damage they (or malware
acting through those programs) can do."
Christof
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Bob Eager
With Vista Basic, I don't think you *can* log on as administrator...
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Graham J
"Christof Meerwald" <NOSPAM-see...@usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote in
message news:slrnhjv0j9.tah....@msgid.cmeerw.org...
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:08:50 -0000, Graham J wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> By default, if you try to modify your hosts file in Vista, it will not
>>> let you save it. It tells you that you don't have permission. To
>>> successfully modify the hosts file, run notepad.exe as an administrator
>>> and open the file.
>> How does this differ from logging on as administrator, then running
>> notepad?
>> This is a serious question ...
>
> Microsoft has introduced UAC (User Account Control) with Windows Vista,
> see
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/user-account-control.aspx
>
> "Even when you use an administrator account, User Account Control
> provides
> heightened security. By default, most programs run with the permissions
> of a standard user, which limits the potential damage they (or malware
> acting through those programs) can do."
Makes sense, I suppose ....
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Graham J
George Weston
I just did and it's OK so far.....
George
Andy Burns
Why is it that the answer for "problem with windows version N" is "pay
for windows version N+1"?
Bob Eager
I've only just come across Vista Basic for the first time, on the laptop
my son bought himself. Nuisance, you can't make it join a domain either.
George Weston
/enters cynic mode.
'Cos that's the way M$ designed it?
;-)
George
Bob Eager
I doubt it's any different. I assume there's a cheap, stripped down
Windows 7 too.
Andy Burns
> On 02/01/10 21:23, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Why is it that the answer for "problem with windows version N" is "pay
>> for windows version N+1"?
>
> It doesn't have to be. My answer was to install Linux ;-)
My parents and aunt have been on Linux for a year now, less hassle
overall, 95% of what they did was firefox/thunderbird anyway, dad even
gettig to grips with inkscape and gimp now.
The netbook that I use for my personal stuff is also Linux, I have a Xen
server that runs many VMs and a myththbox sat under the telly. The work
laptop has to dual boot, there are a still a handful of tasks that
require Windows (or at least using RDP to a Windows box).
alexd
chose the tried and tested strategy of:
> Makes sense, I suppose ....
If it makes sense to you, then you have my every sympathy!
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J B
news:7q6b78...@mid.individual.net...
news.individual.net broken again yesterday all day, so gave plusnet the
'error message' and now they want me to "run a wireshark capture"
Of course it's working again now - grrr - will wireshark work when there
isn't an error?
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Jeff Gaines
>news.individual.net broken again yesterday all day, so gave plusnet the
>'error message' and now they want me to "run a wireshark capture"
I use NIN and had no problems yesterday.
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Flyi�g �u� 2�10 +
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:31:23 -0000, "J B" <j...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> news.individual.net broken again yesterday all day, so gave plusnet
>> the 'error message' and now they want me to "run a wireshark capture"
>> Of course it's working again now - grrr - will wireshark work when
>> there isn't an error?
>
Me neither Herbie.
Plusnet Support Team
On 01/01/2010 11:01, J B wrote:
> Happy New Year
> For the last couple of days I haven't been able to get onto
> news.individual.net and this site
> http://myreader.co.uk/msg/1122122007.aspx suggests it's a plusnet issue.
> I change to port 80 etc but that didn't make any difference, then lo and
> behold it seems fine today!
>
> Anyone else had a problem?
I've mentioned it in threads various (mainly over on
p.s.customer-feedback) however I know what's causing this.
NIN changed the IP addresses of their servers and this is one of the
pieces of information our traffic management platform uses to identify
the server as 'text only' and therefore give it the right priority
across the network.
I've just wireshark captured some telnet traffic and it's getting lumped
into the 'bronze' instead of the 'gold' trafffic queues.
I've raised this internally and I'll post a planned maintnenace
announcement to our service status feed once we've a date for fixing it
(will be during the next fortnight).
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Plusnet Support Team
Yes it will but there's no need for you to do this now (see my reply to
the OP).
Al Bowlly
trombone and blew....
Any news on that Mastermix Spam problem you were looking into Bob, or can
I assume you've got nowhere with it?
George Weston
> On 05/01/2010 in message <7qg86l...@mid.individual.net> J B wrote:
>
>> news.individual.net broken again yesterday all day, so gave plusnet
>> the 'error message' and now they want me to "run a wireshark capture"
>
> I use NIN and had no problems yesterday.
>
George
Plusnet Support Team
On 06/01/2010 11:53, Al Bowlly wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:27:39 +0000, Plusnet Support Team struck up his
> trombone and blew....
>
> Any news on that Mastermix Spam problem you were looking into Bob, or can
> I assume you've got nowhere with it?
Yes, we got in touch with them back on the 17th Dec. Are you still
receiving unsolicited mail from them?
Al Bowlly
trombone and blew....
> On 06/01/2010 11:53, Al Bowlly wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:27:39 +0000, Plusnet Support Team struck up his
>> trombone and blew....
>>
>> Any news on that Mastermix Spam problem you were looking into Bob, or
>> can I assume you've got nowhere with it?
>
> Yes, we got in touch with them back on the 17th Dec. Are you still
> receiving unsolicited mail from them?
Yes, but only twice. When I mailed bombed them with 75,000 unsubscribe
requests it seemed to have stopped.
Howerver, I got some 'system' spam from Plusnet just after - and given
the content really something considering I've not been a customer since
2001, and had *no* business dealings with you since:
"
We're writing to let you know that the government is increasing VAT on
1st January 2010 from 15% back to 17.5%. So, from your January bill
onwards the monthly subscription for your Force9 Broadband Home Premier
1Mb (Monthly Contract, No Modem) - Original - original account will
revert back to the same price we charged in November 2008.
We're also taking this opportunity to make our terms and conditions
easier to understand. For a long time customers on different services
have had slightly varied terms. From January we'll have one standard set
of terms and conditions for all our services, which will make it much
simpler for anyone checking their agreement. You can read the full terms
here:
http://www.plus.net/go.html/terms_update
Kind regards,
Anthony Vollmer
CEO Plusnet
This email has been sent as it contains important information about your
service from Plusnet. Please do not reply to this email, as this is an
unmonitored address.
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Registered in England no: 3279013
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You have some data issues there, don't you....
J B
news:ccSdnfAilopK-NnW...@brightview.co.uk...
>
> I've mentioned it in threads various (mainly over on
> p.s.customer-feedback) however I know what's causing this.
>
> NIN changed the IP addresses of their servers and this is one of the
> pieces of information our traffic management platform uses to identify the
> server as 'text only' and therefore give it the right priority across the
> network.
>
> I've just wireshark captured some telnet traffic and it's getting lumped
> into the 'bronze' instead of the 'gold' trafffic queues.
>
> I've raised this internally and I'll post a planned maintnenace
> announcement to our service status feed once we've a date for fixing it
> (will be during the next fortnight).
>
> --
> |Bob Pullen Broadband Solutions for
> |Support Home & Business @
> |Plusnet Plc. www.plus.net
> +--------------- twitter.com/plusnet ----------------
Thanks Bob ........... at last a result! :-)
I've copied this to uk.media.radio.archers which is where I found the
original 'grumblings'.
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J B
Plusnet Support Team
On 06/01/2010 15:23, Al Bowlly wrote:
> You have some data issues there, don't you....
The person that compiled the dataset mistakedly included accounts that
were queued to be destroyed in our systems (think of them as deactivated
accounts).
Case of human error I'm afraid so sorry about that.
Regarding the Mastermix problem, let me know if it rears its head again.
Plusnet Support Team
Plusnet Support Team
On 07/01/2010 07:00, J B wrote:
Should be fixed as of this morning.