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sanj

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Aug 12, 2009, 6:13:07 AM8/12/09
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What is the fastest and widly covered mobile broadband in the UK
currently?

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Paulg0

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:19:12 PM8/12/09
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"sanj" <sanjeev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> All
>
> What is the fastest and widly covered mobile broadband in the UK
> currently?

Not necessarily the same network in my experience:

Fastest: Vodafone
Widest coverage: Three which falls back to Orange when out of Three coverage
if you have a phone sim rather that a mobile broadband one...

Coverage maps are at
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/broadband/cellular/3g/maps/3gmaps/coverage_maps.pdf

Paul

Graham J

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Aug 12, 2009, 2:29:35 PM8/12/09
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"Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
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One of my suppliers gave me a Three broadband dongle so I've just been
trying it.

The GUI shows a wedge with bars (possibly 10) to indicate some sort of
signal strength. At home, with the dongle strung out of the window on a USB
extension I sometimes see a couple of bars, but generally nothing. The
words say "No Network". The dongle itself shows a red light.

So I put the laptop in the car. On the back roads between Thetford and Diss
the wedge shows varying numbers of bars - sometimes all of them, which I
take to mean a very good signal. However the words continue to say "No
Network".

In some areas - on high ground (being Norfolk this is a relative term!) the
wedge shows perhaps one or two bars, but the word say "network available"
and the "Connect" button turns green. The dongle iteslf shows a green
light. I click connect, and a connection is claimed, but so far all I've
achieved is to receive a couple of system text messages. I've not been able
to ping anything.

The manual says green on the dongle indicates 3G and blue indicates GPRS.
I've not seen blue.

So the question is, what does the signal strength indicate?

I don't think "wide coverage" would describe this! My description would be
"unusable".

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Graham J


Steve Terry

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Aug 12, 2009, 8:30:14 PM8/12/09
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"Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
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> "sanj" <sanjeev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> All
>> What is the fastest and widly covered mobile broadband in the UK
>> currently?
>
> Not necessarily the same network in my experience:
> Fastest: Vodafone
>
Not tried Voda for a while, but last year T Mobile seemed faster

>
> Widest coverage: Three which falls back to Orange when out of Three
> coverage if you have a phone sim rather that a mobile broadband one...
>
>
Without question, and cheapest, using Three now.

Steve Terry


I am the one

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Aug 13, 2009, 5:19:22 AM8/13/09
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On Aug 13, 2:29 am, "Graham J" <gra...@nospam.zen.co.uk> wrote:
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> > "sanj" <sanjeev.par...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> >> All
>
> >> What is the fastest and widly covered mobile broadband in the UK
> >> currently?
>
> > Not necessarily the same network in my experience:
>
> > Fastest: Vodafone
> > Widest coverage: Three which falls back to Orange when out of Three
> > coverage if you have a phone sim rather that a mobile broadband one...
>
> > Coverage maps are at
> >http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/broadband/ce...

>
> One of my suppliers gave me a Three broadband dongle so I've just been
> trying it.
>
> The GUI shows a wedge with bars (possibly 10) to indicate some sort of
> signal strength.  At home, with the dongle strung out of the window on a USB
> extension I sometimes see a couple of bars, but generally nothing.  The
> words say "No Network".  The dongle itself shows a red light.
>
> So I put the laptop in the car.  On the back roads between Thetford and Diss
> the wedge shows varying numbers of bars - sometimes all of them, which I
> take to mean a very good signal.  However the words continue to say "No
> Network".
>
> In some areas - on high ground (being Norfolk this is a relative term!) the
> wedge shows perhaps one or two bars, but the word say "network available"
> and the "Connect" button turns green.  The dongle iteslf shows a green
> light.  I click connect, and a connection is claimed, but so far all I've
> achieved is to receive a couple of system text messages.  I've not been able
> to ping anything.
>
> The manual says green on the dongle indicates 3G and blue indicates GPRS.
> I've not seen blue.
>
> So the question is, what does the signal strength indicate?
>
> I don't think "wide coverage" would describe this!  My description would be
> "unusable".
>
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Very clear this dongle is very poor. What's the chipset?

Graham J

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Aug 13, 2009, 8:01:56 AM8/13/09
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Very clear this dongle is very poor. What's the chipset?

---------------------------------------------------------

Don' know but the description on the thing says:

HSDPA USB Stick MF627
ZTE Corporation

Does this help?

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Graham J


Theo Markettos

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Aug 13, 2009, 2:15:13 PM8/13/09
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Steve Terry <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:kQCgm.173667$7I6....@newsfe17.ams2...
> > Not necessarily the same network in my experience:
> > Fastest: Vodafone
> >
> Not tried Voda for a while, but last year T Mobile seemed faster
> >
> > Widest coverage: Three which falls back to Orange when out of Three
> > coverage if you have a phone sim rather that a mobile broadband one...

I think these are two sides of the same question:

1a. Can you get any reliable signal at all?
1b. Once you've got some signal, how fast do you get on average?

Both really, really, depend on where you are. So it's a bit pointless
network X claiming 'up to 14Mbps' (or whatever), when that can only be
achieved on the top floor of Canary Wharf or the First Class lounge at
Heathrow.

Unless you're in a fixed urban location, I'd pick a network for coverage
rather than speed. If you've got basic HSPA or even plain 3G that'll trump
sitting there with no signal at all, even if your network claims to be
quicker in Central London (and Central London is a very complex environment
so even then it might depend hugely on where you are).

Looking at the 3G coverage maps someone posted, Three wins by a mile.
Though if you know that you're only going to be in an urban area with good
coverage (it's a landline replacement, say) then it's worth finding out what
kind of signal the other networks have in your building.

Theo

Steve Terry

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Aug 13, 2009, 10:15:07 PM8/13/09
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"I am the one" <bruce....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 2:29 am, "Graham J" <gra...@nospam.zen.co.uk> wrote:
> "Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
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<snip

> In some areas - on high ground (being Norfolk this is a relative term!)
> the
> wedge shows perhaps one or two bars, but the word say "network available"
> and the "Connect" button turns green. The dongle iteslf shows a green
> light. I click connect, and a connection is claimed, but so far all I've
> achieved is to receive a couple of system text messages. I've not been
> able
> to ping anything.
>
> The manual says green on the dongle indicates 3G and blue indicates GPRS.
> I've not seen blue.
> So the question is, what does the signal strength indicate?
> I don't think "wide coverage" would describe this! My description would be
> "unusable".
> Graham J- Hide quoted text -
>
>
The problem most dongles have is not enough size to mount an effective
aerial

That's the best reason to use a HSDPA phone as a modem instead

Steve Terry

Lynn W

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Aug 14, 2009, 3:16:57 AM8/14/09
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On 13/8/09 01:30, in article h5vmqv$pqn$1...@news.albasani.net, "Steve Terry"
<gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:

I use 3 at the caravan in Scotland, generally been happy with it BUT was off
the air for 10 days last week which I feel is totally unacceptable as I am
on PAYNGO �10 for 30! The speed is much better than the Vodafone dongle was
here but not sure about reliability as the Voda dongle never failed. This
is my 2nd outage since having the dongle in May.
Lynn

Steve Terry

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Aug 14, 2009, 12:53:15 PM8/14/09
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"Lynn W" <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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Then why don't you pay 50p daily or 2.50 for internet weekly?

Steve Terry


Lynn W

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Aug 14, 2009, 5:27:08 PM8/14/09
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On 14/8/09 17:53, in article h644q0$13s$1...@news.albasani.net, "Steve Terry"
<gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:

Didn't know that was offered I bought my dongle pre-loaded and then topped
up.

Steve Terry

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Aug 14, 2009, 5:51:36 PM8/14/09
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"Lynn W" <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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You may need a 3pay Sim instead, which you can get free from their website,
and if your log in doesn't offer you internet top up options, to top the sim
up
in a 3g phone.

The simplest option is to buy a new Skype S2 phone for 39.99 and
use it as a HSDPA modem, with the advantage that it would probably be
more sensitive to weak signals than a dongle.

Steve Terry


Lynn W

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Aug 15, 2009, 4:18:02 AM8/15/09
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On 14/8/09 22:51, in article h64m9f$r1b$1...@news.albasani.net, "Steve Terry"
<gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:

Take it that doesn't work with the Router I bought? Does it somehow 'plug'
into the laptop?
Lynn

Steve Terry

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Aug 15, 2009, 12:01:46 PM8/15/09
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"Lynn W" <lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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It's miniature to standard USB lead plugs into your laptop.

It may feed your router, depends on your routers requirements?

Steve Terry

Lynn W

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Aug 15, 2009, 7:14:09 PM8/15/09
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On 15/8/09 17:01, in article h66m5h$pqb$1...@news.albasani.net, "Steve Terry"
<gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:

The Router is the 3 one which apparently only works with 3 dongles. It's up
at the caravan and I can't remember what connections are on it.
Lynn

M Williams

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Aug 16, 2009, 4:21:29 AM8/16/09
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In article <C6ACFFD1.1819F%lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com>,
lynn.wi...@FOREVERREDbtinternet.com says...
> >>>>>> on PAYNGO ᅵ10 for 30! The speed is much better than the Vodafone

The 3 router only has an RJ45 wired network connection and a USB 'A'
socket for the dongle

Steve Terry

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Aug 16, 2009, 1:53:59 PM8/16/09
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"M Williams" <mugwu...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> >> Take it that doesn't work with the Router I bought? Does it somehow
>> >> 'plug' into the laptop?
>> >> Lynn
>> >>
>> > It's miniature to standard USB lead plugs into your laptop.
>> >
>> > It may feed your router, depends on your routers requirements?
>> > Steve Terry
>> >
>> The Router is the 3 one which apparently only works with 3 dongles. It's
>> up
>> at the caravan and I can't remember what connections are on it.
>> Lynn
>
> The 3 router only has an RJ45 wired network connection and a USB 'A'
> socket for the dongle
>
>
What's to stop the S2 phone's USB lead being plugged in place of the USB
dongle?

Steve Terry

Martyn Williams

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Aug 16, 2009, 3:39:38 PM8/16/09
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In article <h69h3t$bvi$1...@news.albasani.net>, gFOU...@tesco.net says...

I've just tried it and it does not recognise the S2 as a modem. Router
reports 'The USB modem is nonexistent'

PeeGee

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Aug 16, 2009, 3:47:51 PM8/16/09
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Isn't that for internet on the phone as opposed to using the phone as a
modem (instead of a usb modem)? The mobile broadband rates, as for the
usb modem, seem to apply for the latter case.

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PeeGee

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knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

Steve Terry

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Aug 16, 2009, 9:11:55 PM8/16/09
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"Martyn Williams" <mugwu...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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Then you'll just have to swap the sim from the S2 after topping up on
internet tariff, into the compatible USB 3g Dongle.

I can't see the point of a 3g router, speed especially up load speeds
are slow enough as it is without sharing.

Steve Terry


Steve Terry

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> PeeGee
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Google group archives are your friend, this group, subject 3 internet.

Steve Terry

Martyn Williams

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:27:49 AM8/17/09
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In article <h6aapf$121$1...@news.albasani.net>, gFOU...@tesco.net says...

<snip>


> I can't see the point of a 3g router, speed especially up load speeds
> are slow enough as it is without sharing.
>


I use it with my company laptop. I don't use it for sharing but use it
to give me an RJ45 connection. My company laptop is locked down so that
I can not install any drivers and has the wi-fi disabled.

Normally when away I run my personal laptop through the hotel wi-fi and
my company laptop through my 3 dongle & router.

Maybe I'm lucky but the places that I normally use my 3dongle and router
have excellent coverage and when using both laptops through it I can get
a faster speed than the hotel wi-fi at times

Martyn

R. Mark Clayton

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Aug 17, 2009, 6:58:47 AM8/17/09
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"Paulg0" <zd...@ukgateway.net.nospam> wrote in message
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> "sanj" <sanjeev...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> All
>>
>> What is the fastest and widly covered mobile broadband in the UK
>> currently?
>
> Not necessarily the same network in my experience:
>
> Fastest: Vodafone
> Widest coverage: Three which falls back to Orange when out of Three
> coverage if you have a phone sim rather that a mobile broadband one...

Almost certainly Vodafone as well.

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