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BACKGROUND INFO:
I am on an NTL Ambit cable modem which is connected to my PC via
ethernet. There are no other PCs or devices attached to my own
PC.
When I run a utility like IP2 by Keir I see I have two IP
addresses. http://www.keir.net/ip2.html
One is what IP2 calls the "LAN IP". EG: 81.105.XXX.XXX.
The other is what IP2 calls the "WAN IP". EG: 62.255.XXX.XXX
CONFUSION:
Web sites like the one to get a free account at newserver Yotta
sometimes use the first one of those two and at other times Yotta
uses the second one. http://www.yottanews.com:8080/freeaccount.php
I'm getting confused! Which is the IP address that others people
on the Net would say is my own IP address?
Apps like the proxy finder Charon need me to enter my IP address.
But I can't get it to work. So I don't know if I'm entering the
wrong IP address. http://www.project2025.com/charon.php
> QUESTION:
> Which is the IP address that others people on the Net would say is
> my IP address?
>
Sorry - double post!
Your LAN IP address, is the IP address assigned to your local computer or
network, all connected devices on your local area network would be in the
same grouping, ie;
192.168.0.1
192.168.0.20
192.168.0.235
The last number on the end can be anything from 1 to 254, which means you
can have up to 254 devices connected to your network, each of which has its
own unique IP address.
The WAN IP address (Wide Area Network) is the one seen online by other
users. This is the one your ISP assigns to you on connection (or if you
have a static IP address, it remains the same all the time).
The WAN IP address, is the one that people would use, to connect directly to
you from the internet.
Hope that helps...
ipconfig /all
This will show you your local IP addess (LAN) and the MAC address assigned
to your computer, plus other network information.
Regards
I find that also works in Windows 2000 but only when I have an active
connection - currently established by dial-up.
--
Walter Briscoe
> QUESTION:
> Which is the IP address that others people on the Net would say is
> my IP address?
>
<snip>
The way to find out what your 'Internet Facing' IP address is:
Run a web based utility on the Internet which checks who you are.
A good one is 'Shield Up' - Google for it or go straight to
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
This is a 'must run' utility - it checks that you are protected from at
least some attacks from the Internet - makes sure that your firewall has
closed off all your incoming ports.
As an additional bonus it will tell you what your IP address is, and if it
associated with a DNS entry.
If you read down the front page it will tell you all sorts of useful stuff.
> One is what IP2 calls the "LAN IP". EG: 81.105.XXX.XXX.
If you are connected directly from your PC to the Broadband modem using an
Ethernet card (or a USB port set up for TCP/IP) then this should be the
DHCP address allocated to your PC by NTL.
For people using a NAT router (probably a very sensible move) this is the
IP address on the Internet facing side of your NAT router; your NAT
router will have two interfaces, one which faces the Internet (which
everyone can see) and one which faces your PC and is likely to have an
address like 192.168.1.1.
My NTL IP address starts with 82.31.
> The other is what IP2 calls the "WAN IP". EG: 62.255.XXX.XXX
This could be the address that your PC talks to. It has its own IP
adddress (e.g. 81.105.XXX.XXX) but it will talk to an NTL router further
in towards the Internet, which in turn talks to...etc.
If you are using a NAT router you wouldn't worry about this address; it
isn't visible to your PC, and isn't relevant to anyone calling in to your
PC.
Hope this helps.
Do run Shields Up - it is good to check that you are not vulnerable to
attack.
Cheers
Dave R
"David WE Roberts" <nos...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
> Do run Shields Up - it is good to check that you are not
> vulnerable to attack.
Indeed, it's an extremely useful utility, there are some other interesting
'goodies' on that site as well.
Incidentally, my system reports that although all ports are stealthed, it
is still responding to 'pings' and so fails the Shields Up test. I can't
see how in my firewall (Norton) to stop this, anyone have any ideas..?
Ivor
>Incidentally, my system reports that although all ports are stealthed, it
>is still responding to 'pings' and so fails the Shields Up test. I can't
>see how in my firewall (Norton) to stop this, anyone have any ideas..?
Probably the router config, not from your PC! Peter M.
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"Peter M" <us-...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 4 Dec 2005 16:28, "Ivor Jones"
> <iv...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Incidentally, my system reports that although all ports
> > are stealthed, it is still responding to 'pings' and so
> > fails the Shields Up test. I can't see how in my
> > firewall (Norton) to stop this, anyone have any
> > ideas..?
>
> Probably the router config, not from your PC! Peter M.
What would need to be changed..? I would have thought the firewall could
have been set to block ping requests, but I can't see how.
The problem is the router has no configurable options to alter this that I
can see. It's a Fritz!Box Fon from AVM which is a combined
modem/router/VoIP ATA and the only options are to enter account/ISP
details and to forward any ports that may be necessary, it's very much a
"plug & play" box. I like it because it works and I haven't had any of the
hassle with port forwarding and other niggles when setting up different
VoIP accounts.
Ivor
>On 4 Dec 2005 16:28, "Ivor Jones" <iv...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Incidentally, my system reports that although all ports are stealthed, it
>>is still responding to 'pings' and so fails the Shields Up test. I can't
>>see how in my firewall (Norton) to stop this, anyone have any ideas..?
>
>Probably the router config, not from your PC! Peter M.
indeed - if you have a router, look for "discard pings from WAN" or
"ignore incoming ICMP" or something like that. The latter may also
apply to your firewall.
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"Mark McIntyre" <markmc...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:10:08 +0000, in
> uk.telecom.broadband , Peter M <us-...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 4 Dec 2005 16:28, "Ivor Jones"
> > <iv...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Incidentally, my system reports that although all
> > > ports are stealthed, it is still responding to
> > > 'pings' and so fails the Shields Up test. I can't see
> > > how in my firewall (Norton) to stop this, anyone have
> > > any ideas..?
> >
> > Probably the router config, not from your PC! Peter M.
>
> indeed - if you have a router, look for "discard pings
> from WAN" or "ignore incoming ICMP" or something like
> that. The latter may also apply to your firewall.
No option in router that I can see, will check in firewall but Norton has
pages and pages of config options..!
Ivor
>> indeed - if you have a router, look for "discard pings
>> from WAN" or "ignore incoming ICMP" or something like that. The
>> latter may also apply to your firewall.
>
> No option in router that I can see, will check in firewall but Norton
> has pages and pages of config options..!
Set up a DMZ and send Port 7 traffic to a non-existent machine.
--
Joe Soap.
JUNK is stuff that you keep for 20 years,
then throw away a week before you need it.
AFAIK (correct me someone) ntl use transparent proxies so the ipaddress
that an http site sees may be that of one of ntl's proxies - some
"what's my ip" type sites will only show this and some (as long as ntl
use the right proxy settings) will show both.
If you find a site which shows both do a traceroute to them and you
should be able to see which is yours and which is the proxy.
Andy.
http://www.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/check_ip.cgi
Stephen