Re: Skypephone S2 memory card
Dave Higton
"Roger Mills" <watt....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone please tell me where I can find a definitive spec of the type of
> memory card used by an S2 phone? I can't find any reference to it in the
> handbook - other than an instruction to "insert the memory card"!
>
> It's clearly a micro-SD card of some sort - but what max capacity?
>
> I'm sure that someone here has talked about a 4GB card - but I can't find
> any 4GB cards which are SD as opposed to SDHC - and the logo next to the
> memory slot on the phone is only bog-standard micro-SD.
To the best of my understanding (which, on this topic, comes mainly
from Wikipedia), SD is only capable of addressing 2 GB. Anything
bigger than 2 GB cannot be SD; it must be SDHC (unless there's
anything new to replace even that).
Dave
Roger Mills
memory card used by an S2 phone? I can't find any reference to it in the
handbook - other than an instruction to "insert the memory card"!
It's clearly a micro-SD card of some sort - but what max capacity?
I'm sure that someone here has talked about a 4GB card - but I can't find
any 4GB cards which are SD as opposed to SDHC - and the logo next to the
memory slot on the phone is only bog-standard micro-SD.
Help!
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Roger Mills
Dave Higton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
That's my understanding too, that SD only goes up to 2GB.
On one of the websites selling these cards, it says to check for SDHC
compatibility by looking for an SDHC logo on the device with which it will
be used. There ain't one on my phone - only a micro-SD logo - so I wonder
whether I'm limited to 2GB.
A definitive statement from someone with personal experience of fitting a
memory card to an S2 would be appreciated.
Roger Mills
> On 06/01/2010 08:22, Roger Mills wrote:
>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>> Steve Wyles<st...@inhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/01/2010 23:10, Roger Mills wrote:
>>>
>>>> A definitive statement from someone with personal experience of
>>>> fitting a memory card to an S2 would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I've got a 4gig card in my s2 (shows as 3774.1 MB). It was a generic
>>> one that I purchased on ebay.
>>
>> Thanks. What does it say on it - micro-SD or micro-SDHC?
>>
>
> Micro SDHC
Ta!
Roger Mills
> On 05/01/2010 23:10, Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> A definitive statement from someone with personal experience of
>> fitting a memory card to an S2 would be appreciated.
>
> I've got a 4gig card in my s2 (shows as 3774.1 MB). It was a generic
> one that I purchased on ebay.
>
> Steve
Thanks. What does it say on it - micro-SD or micro-SDHC?
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Steve Wyles
> Steve Wyles<st...@inhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 05/01/2010 23:10, Roger Mills wrote:
>>
>>> A definitive statement from someone with personal experience of
>>> fitting a memory card to an S2 would be appreciated.
>>
>> I've got a 4gig card in my s2 (shows as 3774.1 MB). It was a generic
>> one that I purchased on ebay.
>
>
Micro SDHC
Steve Wyles
> A definitive statement from someone with personal experience of fitting a
> memory card to an S2 would be appreciated.
I've got a 4gig card in my s2 (shows as 3774.1 MB). It was a generic one
that I purchased on ebay.
Steve
Steve Terry
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> Can anyone please tell me where I can find a definitive spec of the type
> of memory card used by an S2 phone? I can't find any reference to it in
> the handbook - other than an instruction to "insert the memory card"!
>
> It's clearly a micro-SD card of some sort - but what max capacity?
>
> I'm sure that someone here has talked about a 4GB card - but I can't find
> any 4GB cards which are SD as opposed to SDHC - and the logo next to the
> memory slot on the phone is only bog-standard micro-SD.
> Help!
> Roger
>
>
There aren't any 4Gb or larger SD cards that aren't SDHC
As the S2 takes 4Gb it must be SDHC compatable
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Roger Mills
>>
> There aren't any 4Gb or larger SD cards that aren't SDHC
> As the S2 takes 4Gb it must be SDHC compatable
>
> Steve Terry
Yes, that's the conclusion I've come to - despite the fact that I can't find
a card spec for the phone documented *anywhere*.
Assuming it *is* SDHC compatible, why only 4GB, since there are micro-SDHC
cards with at least twice that capacity? Won't an 8GB card work with the
phone?
Christof Meerwald
> There aren't any 4Gb or larger SD cards that aren't SDHC
> As the S2 takes 4Gb it must be SDHC compatable
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card):
"Standard SD card capacities range from 1 MB to 4 GB. The capacity range
for high capacity SDHC cards overlap, beginning at 4 GB but reaching as
high as 32 GB as of mid-2009. The SDXC (eXtended Capacity), a new
specification announced at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show, allows for
up to 2 TB capacity cards."
but then http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/ says:
"Capacity Up to 2 GB"
My guess would be that the spec only allows for 2 GB, but some devices have
probably stretched that limit to 4 GB.
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alexd
Mills chose the tried and tested strategy of:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> There aren't any 4Gb or larger SD cards that aren't SDHC
>> As the S2 takes 4Gb it must be SDHC compatable
> Assuming it *is* SDHC compatible, why only 4GB, since there are micro-SDHC
> cards with at least twice that capacity? Won't an 8GB card work with the
> phone?
I don't think Steve was saying it only works with 4GB, I think he was saying
that's the only one he'd tried.
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> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:45:15 -0000, Steve Terry wrote:
>> There aren't any 4Gb or larger SD cards that aren't SDHC
>> As the S2 takes 4Gb it must be SDHC compatable
>
> According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card):
>
> "Standard SD card capacities range from 1 MB to 4 GB. The capacity range
> for high capacity SDHC cards overlap, beginning at 4 GB but reaching as
> high as 32 GB as of mid-2009. The SDXC (eXtended Capacity), a new
> specification announced at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show, allows for
> up to 2 TB capacity cards."
>
> but then http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/ says:
>
> "Capacity Up to 2 GB"
>
> My guess would be that the spec only allows for 2 GB, but some devices
> have
> probably stretched that limit to 4 GB.
I think you can make an SD card any size up to 4GB (and I expect the
original SD spec allowed for this) but it's now been agreed that the change
from SD to SDHC happens after 2GB to match with the point at which the
normal format used changes from FAT16 to FAT32. That way there should be
less confusion caused by SD compatible devices that can't understand FAT32
vs SD devices that can understand FAT32.
I believe it is also possible to have a FAT16 drive of over 2GB in size but
Microsoft has now designated that as non-standard and the normal formatting
utilities included in Windows won't format anything over 2GB as FAT16.
I'd be interested to know if the few 4GB SD cards that were made before all
this was agreed were supplied formatted as FAT16 or as FAT32. I've a feeling
FAT16 can only be pushed to just under 4GB but maybe I'm muddling it up with
something else.
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