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CD
Sep 16, 2014, 4:17:51 AM9/16/14
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Hi all
I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
to over 20000 down.
I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
& whistles.
Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
16500.
Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
must be a router issue.
Any ideas?
Thanks
CD
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I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
to over 20000 down.
I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
& whistles.
Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
16500.
Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
must be a router issue.
Any ideas?
Thanks
CD
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Mark
Sep 16, 2014, 5:12:19 AM9/16/14
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:17:51 +0100, CD <n...@way.ok> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>to over 20000 down.
>I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>& whistles.
>Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>16500.
>Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>must be a router issue.
At a guess I'd just say some routers have better modems than others.
>Hi all
>
>I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>to over 20000 down.
>I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>& whistles.
>Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>16500.
>Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>must be a router issue.
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The Natural Philosopher
Sep 16, 2014, 8:16:33 AM9/16/14
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On 16/09/14 09:17, CD wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
> to over 20000 down.
> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
> & whistles.
> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
> 16500.
> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
> must be a router issue.
>
> Any ideas?
>
I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
> Hi all
>
> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
> to over 20000 down.
> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
> & whistles.
> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
> 16500.
> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
> must be a router issue.
>
> Any ideas?
>
down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
> Thanks
>
> CD
>
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The Natural Philosopher
Sep 16, 2014, 8:18:25 AM9/16/14
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On 16/09/14 10:12, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:17:51 +0100, CD <n...@way.ok> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>> to over 20000 down.
>> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>> & whistles.
>> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>> 16500.
>> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>> must be a router issue.
>
> At a guess I'd just say some routers have better modems than others.
>
My experience suggest some routers run their modems at lower SNR ratios
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:17:51 +0100, CD <n...@way.ok> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>> to over 20000 down.
>> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>> & whistles.
>> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>> 16500.
>> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>> must be a router issue.
>
> At a guess I'd just say some routers have better modems than others.
>
to get better headline speeds at the expense of getting a lot of
retrains and packet corruption.
My defunct billion would allow meto 'add gain' to the chipset to get
anything from slow and solid to fast and flaky.
Mark
Sep 16, 2014, 8:53:40 AM9/16/14
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 16/09/14 10:12, Mark wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:17:51 +0100, CD <n...@way.ok> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>>> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>>> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>>> to over 20000 down.
>>> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>>> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>>> & whistles.
>>> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>>> 16500.
>>> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>>> must be a router issue.
>>
>> At a guess I'd just say some routers have better modems than others.
>>
>My experience suggest some routers run their modems at lower SNR ratios
>to get better headline speeds at the expense of getting a lot of
>retrains and packet corruption.
IIRC modems usually use the target SNR margin given to them by the
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 16/09/14 10:12, Mark wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:17:51 +0100, CD <n...@way.ok> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm with Sky & have been using the "Sky Hub" which to be honest worked
>>> just fine. With O2 & their router before the buyout I got a downstream
>>> of around 18500 with about 1500 up. On the Sky hub this has crept up
>>> to over 20000 down.
>>> I obtained a Draytek Vigor 2760N to have continued dynamic dns
>>> support, this is a VDSL router that does ADSL too with a lot of bells
>>> & whistles.
>>> Sync speed was a bit slower, back in the 18000s & has now dropped to
>>> 16500.
>>> Putting the Sky one back gets it back up to speed in no time, so this
>>> must be a router issue.
>>
>> At a guess I'd just say some routers have better modems than others.
>>
>My experience suggest some routers run their modems at lower SNR ratios
>to get better headline speeds at the expense of getting a lot of
>retrains and packet corruption.
DSLAM. Some devices allow you to override it. I certainly saw
different routers connecting at different speeds, but with the same
noise margins, unless they were lying. Higher margins do give greater
stability.
>My defunct billion would allow meto 'add gain' to the chipset to get
>anything from slow and solid to fast and flaky.
but could not match the speeds from the 2-wire (BT business hub).
The Natural Philosopher
Sep 16, 2014, 9:06:40 AM9/16/14
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flakiest.
CD
Sep 16, 2014, 1:55:28 PM9/16/14
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:16:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
Well, it dropped down to 15400ish, Sky router is back on & I'm using
<t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
the changeip homing beacon software to do the updates as I have an
always on server PC in the garage for it to sit on. The Draytek shall
go back to whence it came.
Graham J
Sep 16, 2014, 2:07:04 PM9/16/14
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CD wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:16:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>> down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
>
> Well, it dropped down to 15400ish, Sky router is back on & I'm using
> the changeip homing beacon software to do the updates as I have an
> always on server PC in the garage for it to sit on. The Draytek shall
> go back to whence it came.
As others have said, this is probably because different routers set
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:16:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
> <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>> down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
>
> Well, it dropped down to 15400ish, Sky router is back on & I'm using
> the changeip homing beacon software to do the updates as I have an
> always on server PC in the garage for it to sit on. The Draytek shall
> go back to whence it came.
different limits for the data rate versus connection reliability.
Please tell us, for both routers, the:
Downstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count
Upstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count.
The Vigor router might only show all these parameters for the downstream
direction.
We might then be able to comment further.
In general, a 20% improvement in download speed will be irrelevant.
Better reliability will be much more useful.
--
Graham J
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CD
Sep 17, 2014, 3:47:53 AM9/17/14
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:07:04 +0100, Graham J <gra...@invalid.com>
wrote:
>Please tell us, for both routers, the:
>
>Downstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count
>
>Upstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count.
>
>The Vigor router might only show all these parameters for the downstream
>direction.
Here's the Sky stats, I'm doing this remotely so can't get the Vigor
stats till later.
Down:
18014 kbps (this will go up over the next few days to high 19/low 20)
Line Attenuation 30.0 dB
Noise Margin 6.6 dB
Nothing for errors I can see I do have collision packets which is
zero.
Up:
1213 kbps (will go up to 15ish)
Line Attenuation 18.2 dB
Noise Margin 8.8 dB
wrote:
>Please tell us, for both routers, the:
>
>Downstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count
>
>Upstream sync speed, SNR Margin, Loop Attenuation, error count.
>
>The Vigor router might only show all these parameters for the downstream
>direction.
stats till later.
Down:
18014 kbps (this will go up over the next few days to high 19/low 20)
Line Attenuation 30.0 dB
Noise Margin 6.6 dB
Nothing for errors I can see I do have collision packets which is
zero.
Up:
1213 kbps (will go up to 15ish)
Line Attenuation 18.2 dB
Noise Margin 8.8 dB
Mark
Sep 17, 2014, 4:59:28 AM9/17/14
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:33:07 +0100, Phil W Lee <ph...@lee-family.me.uk>
wrote:
>CD <n...@way.ok> considered Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:55:28 +0100 the perfect
--snip--
Good value. It's a shame it doesn't have dual-band wifi though but
that's not a real problem.
Has anyone compared it with a Draytek 2860n?
wrote:
>CD <n...@way.ok> considered Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:55:28 +0100 the perfect
>time to write:
>
>>On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:16:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>><t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>>>down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
>>
>>Well, it dropped down to 15400ish, Sky router is back on & I'm using
>>the changeip homing beacon software to do the updates as I have an
>>always on server PC in the garage for it to sit on. The Draytek shall
>>go back to whence it came.
>>
>Get the Billion BiPAC 8800NL instead.
>
>>On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:16:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>><t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I now have a router which syncs slower, but stays there much better. Its
>>>down to signal to noise margins built in (possibly configurable) on the kit.
>>
>>Well, it dropped down to 15400ish, Sky router is back on & I'm using
>>the changeip homing beacon software to do the updates as I have an
>>always on server PC in the garage for it to sit on. The Draytek shall
>>go back to whence it came.
>>
--snip--
Good value. It's a shame it doesn't have dual-band wifi though but
that's not a real problem.
Has anyone compared it with a Draytek 2860n?
Mike Tomlinson
Sep 29, 2014, 10:06:12 AM9/29/14
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In article <1hcg1a5nu6kt5sae5...@4ax.com>, Mark <i@dontget
lotsofspamanymore.invalid> writes
>I could tweak the SNR on my Netgear ADSL router (with DGteam firmware)
>but could not match the speeds from the 2-wire (BT business hub).
Ah, that's interesting, thanks. I'm using a DG834GT with the DGTeam
firmware and the SNR dialled down to 4dB, but have seen the 2-wire
routers at car boot sales for a quid or two. Had been tempted but the
box of used routers I have at home is getting ever fuller...
--
(\_/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
lotsofspamanymore.invalid> writes
>I could tweak the SNR on my Netgear ADSL router (with DGteam firmware)
>but could not match the speeds from the 2-wire (BT business hub).
firmware and the SNR dialled down to 4dB, but have seen the 2-wire
routers at car boot sales for a quid or two. Had been tempted but the
box of used routers I have at home is getting ever fuller...
--
(\_/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
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