BT Broadband Availability Checker (FTTC)
jbp
slipped from September 2010 to December 2010 to March 2011 to June 2011.
This morning I noticed that the date had been brought forward to 16 March
2011. BT did lay new fibre circuits into the cable chambers in the road
outside a couple of months ago, but my local cabinet 200 yards away has not
had an FTTC cabinet added next to it and no sign of any nearby tell-tale
outline paint markings on the ground.
I checked with BT Sales just now and they're not able to take an FTTC order
for my line at the moment. I'm just wondering what the likelihood of them
doing the necessary work between now and 16 March would be? Not holding my
breath.
Or perhaps the plan is to link my cabinet to the next nearest recently
installed FTTC cabinet which is about 700 feet away from it as the crow
flies?
Scott
Try Zen Internet. They offer the service too and were extremely
helpful.
jbp
Spoke with Zen today and you're right, they were very helpful. Does look
like my local cabinet may be connected to an FTTC cabinet 700 feet away from
it. Just need to weigh up whether the increase in upload speed from 11+Mbps
to 36Mbps warrants an increase of £26pm plus activation fee of £90. To be
honest, probably not just now, but would definitely take them into
consideration though should our needs change.
jbp
Spoke with Zen today and you're right, they were very helpful. Does look
like my local cabinet may be connected to an FTTC cabinet 700 feet away from
it. Just need to weigh up whether the increase in download speed from
NCO
stick with LLU, at least you can get unmetered usage that way.
Fully unmetered FTTC connection via BTW will cost ~£90.
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kraftee
"jbp" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Always remembering that there is only capacity for 96 circuits.
Woody
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Surely the limitations on download speed will be contention and
any traffic shaping applied? It is nice that it can actually get
to you so fast but it has to be coughed up by the system first.
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harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
kraftee
"Woody" <harro...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message
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I think you did not understand....
There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has nothing
to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
DrTeeth
herb, "kraftee" <kraftee:b&e-cottee.me.uk> disturbed my reverie and
wrote:
>There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has nothing
>to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
In another forum, somebody said the limit was 288.
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Mark Carver
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:14:19 -0000, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "kraftee" <kraftee:b&e-cottee.me.uk> disturbed my reverie and
> wrote:
>
>> There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has nothing
>> to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
>
> In another forum, somebody said the limit was 288.
Are all FTTC cabinets the same size, what's the typical capacity of a POTS
cabinet ? What's the ratio of FTTC to POTS capacity ?
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Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.
m
>
> There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has
> nothing to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
It's also amazing how close the FTTC cabs are to the exchange in some
areas.
Two I know of are in Brentwood where there is one in the main road
literally about 200ft from the main (huge) exchange and the other in
Ealing where there is one just across the Green from the main Ealing
Exchange. Again only a few hundred yards away.
Surely this can't be worth it as the extra line-loss in diverting pairs
from the existing cab to the FTTC cab and back (where they aren't
co-sited)would be comparable with the line-loss on a direct path from
the exchange?
Is it also perhaps a way of bypassing LLU pressure in the exchange and
getting LLU Broadband providers kit out and their jumpers on the MDF?
I smell a very big RAT
Is it just an advertising gimmick?
They also seem to have underestimated capacity in the FTTC cabs as near
me (Walworth Exchange) there are now 2 side-by-side.
Mike
kraftee
"DrTeeth" <no-e...@tardis.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:14:19 -0000, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "kraftee" <kraftee:b&e-cottee.me.uk> disturbed my reverie and
> wrote:
>
>>There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has nothing
>>to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
>
> In another forum, somebody said the limit was 288.
Well they are only putting in one DSLAM and that has 96 ports so where they
get the other 192 from god only knows..
It doesn't much difference around here as the whole thing has ground to a
halt
kraftee
"Mark Carver" <mark....@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> DrTeeth wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:14:19 -0000, just as I was about to take a
>> herb, "kraftee" <kraftee:b&e-cottee.me.uk> disturbed my reverie and
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has
>>> nothing to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
>>
>> In another forum, somebody said the limit was 288.
>
> Are all FTTC cabinets the same size, what's the typical capacity of a POTS
> cabinet ? What's the ratio of FTTC to POTS capacity ?
There isn't any fixed ratio, the bean counters have made a decision and
that's that..
The Natural Philosopher
I would imagine is simply that the existing kit can only handle so many
VDSL lines, and there is limited space in the cabinets for more..
Sultan of Usenet
the words:
Actually it's far more simple. The idiots decided to only put 50-100 pair
links and cross connect strips in situ. Partially cost related (ala all
things BT), but in some cases a lack a physical room in the PCP is to
blame.
For a company that pissed all that money up the wall on ATM kit in the
90's, you'd think they could run to a few metres of cable and some metal
boxes.
Mark Carver
> kraftee wrote:
>
>>
>> There is only 96 connection available from one FTTC 'cab'. It has
>> nothing to do with contention and all to do with physical equipm,ent.
>
>
> It's also amazing how close the FTTC cabs are to the exchange in some
> areas.
> Two I know of are in Brentwood where there is one in the main road
> literally about 200ft from the main (huge) exchange and the other in
> Ealing where there is one just across the Green from the main Ealing
> Exchange. Again only a few hundred yards away.
Yes, same here in Basingstoke, there's one outside the main exchange !
I walked past it the other day. I stopped to make sure it was an FTTC cab, I
gave it shove, it didn't fall over or dent, so it certainly wasn't a Virgin
Media cab :-)
Andrew Benham
> It doesn't much difference around here as the whole thing has ground to
> a halt
And here (LNWIN) too. The BT Infinity map shows Winchmore Hill exchange
going active by 31 March 2011. Samknows says RFS date is 1 June 2011.
However BT Infinity's availability checker tells me
BT Infinity is not currently due to be rolled out in your area.
Looks rather as if BT have given up on this exchange. Which is OK,
because I've given up waiting for their FTTC.
kraftee
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kraftee
"kraftee" <kraftee:b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message news:...
Very little thought appears to have been given to the (non) rollout of the
product in this area. In some instances they've actually split the
resources of one FTTC cab between 2 normal cabs and yet not 2 miles away
they haven't haven't fitted one which would supply 2 busy trading estates
who are crying out for faster connections.
Anyway, in this area the whole thing is a mute point as the much publicised
rollout in January hasn't and isn't any time soon. So unfortunately for me
it looks like I'm going to be hit with 21CN a lot sooner than FTTC even is
on the horizon....
Andy Burns
> Anyway, in this area the whole thing is a mute point as the much
> publicised rollout in January hasn't and isn't any time soon. So
> unfortunately for me it looks like I'm going to be hit with 21CN a lot
> sooner than FTTC even is on the horizon....
They appear to be putting in plenty of cabs towards the top end of
Porchester Rd, of course that area has been ntl/virgin cabled for
decades ... so presumably most people in that area who wanted tens of
megabits of bandwidth already have it?
m
>
>
> Yes, same here in Basingstoke, there's one outside the main exchange !
> I walked past it the other day. I stopped to make sure it was an FTTC
> cab, I gave it shove, it didn't fall over or dent, so it certainly
> wasn't a Virgin Media cab :-)
>
>
>
So very true!!
Most of them are hanging open/crashed into/wires hanging out!
Mike
kraftee
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They've already dotted them around the West Bridgford area with a couple of
PCPs being left out, as already mentioned, mind you one not 1km from the
exchange has been done (?) yet no roll out and new 21CN equipment going into
the exchange. Mixed messages there I think.
The top of Porchester Road will be the Sherwood exchange roll out (or not as
the case may be)....
Quite a few engineers (with quite a bit off kit) all champing at the bit and
nothing apparently happening.
Jim
Surely BT's target users for this service are not
businesses, which can be charged for expensive leased
lines, but residential subscribers who can be sold
bundled TV/broadband/phone packages?
Andy Burns
> On 14/03/2011 21:23, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> They appear to be putting in plenty of cabs towards the top end of
>> Porchester Rd, of course that area has been ntl/virgin cabled for
>> decades ... so presumably most people in that area who wanted tens of
>> megabits of bandwidth already have it?
>
> Surely BT's target users for this service are not businesses, which can
> be charged for expensive leased lines,
I wasn't really suggesting they were targeting businesses, for the
benefit of those not familiar with the area, it is a largely residential
area.
> but residential subscribers who
> can be sold bundled TV/broadband/phone packages?
but virgon also sell all the above. If I was a BT planning bod deciding
where to pull in my magic infinity fibres, I'd pick areas where someone
else didn't already have *their* fibres or coax ...
Granted, as soon as BT Openreach have provisioned fibre they have to
make it available to other resellers as well as BT Retail, but why
choose to go head-to-head with an incumbent?