ADSL very slow with A&A?
Dino Fancellu
Used to be quite fast 400-500kbps, no changes at my end.
But look at this tracert
Tracing route to www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 24 ms 30 ms 40 ms pointy.crownhouse.net [195.217.221.1]
2 895 ms 840 ms 808 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.211.13]
3 670 ms 695 ms 750 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.210.2]
4 639 ms 705 ms 555 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.29]
5 866 ms 793 ms 1009 ms pos0-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.53]
6 878 ms 939 ms 909 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
7 985 ms 849 ms 919 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
8 835 ms 778 ms 660 ms tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net
[194.159.252.5
3]
9 755 ms 760 ms 860 ms www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
Lordy! What gives?
Its barely faster than a 56k modem. Getting very slow rates with
http://computingcentral.msn.com/topics/bandwidth/speedtest50.asp
Any other A&A ADSL users seeing this, or is it just me?
Dino.
Martin Saunders
Erk.. that looks to me like A&A are either having network problems, or
have run out of bandwidth. Is it still poor now? What do A&A say?
Cheers
Martin
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Dino Fancellu
> have run out of bandwidth. Is it still poor now? What do A&A say?
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
Still very slow, not as bad as before, but still pretty rank.
Tracing route to www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 38 ms 39 ms 40 ms pointy.crownhouse.net [195.217.221.1]
2 62 ms 165 ms 103 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.211.13]
3 115 ms 142 ms 110 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.210.2]
4 59 ms 61 ms 149 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.29]
5 156 ms 218 ms 205 ms pos0-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.53]
6 134 ms 175 ms 119 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
7 129 ms 164 ms 139 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
8 239 ms 99 ms 140 ms tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net
[194.159.252.
3]
9 370 ms 305 ms 313 ms www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
No response. I haven't had a good experience with A&A so far. Dissapointing
after having heard so much about their support.
Dino.
Patrick Lambe
"Dino Fancellu" <any...@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
news:8v3ih0$6or$1...@soap.pipex.net...
I haven't noticed too much wrong, but from the looks of things, uunet may be
a bit clogged, looks ok from my machine though
3 pointy.crownhouse.net (195.217.221.1) 27.444 ms 21.452 ms 20.832 ms
4 gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net (158.43.211.13) 23.258 ms 42.300 ms 36.653 ms
5 fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net (158.43.210.2) 51.194 ms 36.262 ms
42.540 ms
6 pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net (158.43.254.29) 27.172 ms 31.632 ms
151.909 ms
7 pos0-3.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net (158.43.254.245) 80.710 ms 29.692 ms
36.587 ms
8 linx-2.router.demon.net (195.66.224.13) 56.182 ms 127.653 ms 40.972
ms
9 linx-2.router.demon.net (195.66.224.13) 61.700 ms 72.823 ms 115.435
ms
10 tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net (194.159.252.53) 349.296 ms 100.138
ms 67.077 ms
11 www.demon.net (194.159.254.213) 87.857 ms * 124.948 ms
I'd have to say in defence of them that they're support has been great for
me, with the sole exception that Adrian Kennard seems to be the only person
there who has any knowledge of domain transfers, so if he's away, hard luck.
Pat.
Paul Cummins
Fancellu) wrote:
> Yesterday very slow, today very slow too.
>
> Used to be quite fast 400-500kbps, no changes at my end.
Seeing no significant problems here
Tracing route to www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 35 ms 32 ms 31 ms pointy.crownhouse.net
2 67 ms 46 ms 27 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
3 63 ms 29 ms 37 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
4 31 ms 43 ms 38 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
5 69 ms 75 ms 62 ms pos0-2.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
6 37 ms 31 ms 27 ms linx-2.router.demon.net
7 44 ms 65 ms 46 ms linx-2.router.demon.net
8 31 ms 36 ms 50 ms tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net
9 66 ms 56 ms 37 ms www.demon.net
Trace complete.
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Rob O
chargea...@aquaphiles.com (Paul Cummins) wrote:
Internet Professional???!!!
R
Dino Fancellu
but still 3x faster than it was before, which was 33.6k modem like!
....
However its just gone horrible again.
Can't tracert www.demon.net at all!
Aaaaaand.
C:\WINDOWS>tracert www.pipex.net
Tracing route to ntfm297.facility.pipex.com [193.129.255.125]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 34 ms 30 ms 30 ms pointy.crownhouse.net [195.217.221.1]
2 1370 ms 1365 ms 1270 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.211.13]
3 1182 ms 1134 ms 1049 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.210.2]
4 1178 ms 1080 ms 935 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.29]
5 788 ms 759 ms 640 ms pos0-1.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.237]
6 595 ms 649 ms 676 ms fe1-0-0.hr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.188.251]
7 fe1-0-0.hr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.188.251] reports: Destination
net u
nreachable.
Oh, www.demon.net back now, but...
Tracing route to www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 38 ms 28 ms 27 ms pointy.crownhouse.net [195.217.221.1]
2 990 ms 1009 ms 1152 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.211.13]
3 1138 ms 1149 ms 1075 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.210.2]
4 1075 ms 1104 ms 1170 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.29]
5 1107 ms 1089 ms 1180 ms pos0-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
[158.43.254.53]
6 271 ms 399 ms 442 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
7 550 ms 600 ms 655 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
8 910 ms 850 ms 1010 ms tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net
[194.159.252.5
3]
9 1097 ms 980 ms 900 ms www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
!?!?!!?! Talk about hosed.
Dino.
Paul Cummins
(Rob O) wrote:
> Internet Professional???!!!
And you're in a position to dispute this?
Marcus Williamson
There is a problem between 1 and 2 in the traceroute, it seems!
regards
Marcus
Rob O
chargea...@aquaphiles.com (Paul Cummins) wrote:
>In article <3a155a28...@news.alt.net>, r...@removethis.riverweb.co.uk
>(Rob O) wrote:
>
>> Internet Professional???!!!
>
>And you're in a position to dispute this?
no, and I wasn't - just seems like an odd thing to have to your name .
. .like 'TV professional' or 'shopping professional ' . . . ?
R
Paul Cummins
(Rob O) wrote:
>
> no, and I wasn't - just seems like an odd thing to have to your name .
> . .like 'TV professional' or 'shopping professional ' . . . ?
OIC
OK, I work with the Internet, I play with the internet, I live with the
internet. It's a polite way of describing myself as a geek :-)
Basically, if it's net and I don't know about it, I want to know why, and
will know about it within 24 hours...
And (poking a friend) I'd rather be an internet professional than an
internet expert ;-)
Alex W
Pinging www.demon.net [194.159.254.213] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 194.159.254.213: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=246
Reply from 194.159.254.213: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=246
Reply from 194.159.254.213: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=246
Reply from 194.159.254.213: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=246
Ping statistics for 194.159.254.213:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 82ms, Average = 51ms
1 195.217.221.1 27ms 27ms 28ms TTL: 0 (pointy.crownhouse.net ok)
2 158.43.211.13 27ms 41ms 41ms TTL: 0 (gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
ok)
3 158.43.210.2 27ms 41ms 27ms TTL: 0
(fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net ok)
4 158.43.254.29 41ms 27ms 55ms TTL: 0
(pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net ok)
5 158.43.254.245 41ms 41ms 28ms TTL: 0
(pos0-3.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net ok)
6 195.66.224.13 41ms 69ms 55ms TTL: 0 (linx-2.router.demon.net
ok)
7 195.66.224.13 28ms 28ms 41ms TTL: 0 (linx-2.router.demon.net
ok)
8 194.159.36.73 55ms 41ms 137ms TTL: 0
(tele-backbone-11-167.router.demon.net ok)
9 194.159.36.65 55ms 27ms 27ms TTL: 0
(finch-backbone-11-162.router.demon.net ok)
10 194.159.36.67 27ms 41ms 27ms TTL: 0
(finch-service-1-162.router.demon.net bogus rDNS: host not found
[authoritative])
11 194.159.253.32 41ms 27ms 42ms TTL: 0
(ll-finch-16.access.demon.net ok)
12 195.173.56.3 41ms 28ms 41ms TTL: 0
(finch-gap-1-if0.router.demon.net ok)
13 193.195.224.1 27ms 55ms 55ms TTL:243
(finch-staff-1.server.demon.net ok)
Fast enough!!
Regards,
Alex W
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"Dino Fancellu" <any...@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
news:8v3am2$2p0$1...@soap.pipex.net...
> Yesterday very slow, today very slow too.
>
> Used to be quite fast 400-500kbps, no changes at my end.
>
> But look at this tracert
>
> Tracing route to www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 24 ms 30 ms 40 ms pointy.crownhouse.net [195.217.221.1]
> 2 895 ms 840 ms 808 ms gw13.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.211.13]
> 3 670 ms 695 ms 750 ms fe0-0-0.cr2.rea1.gbb.uk.uu.net
> [158.43.210.2]
> 4 639 ms 705 ms 555 ms pos1-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net
> [158.43.254.29]
> 5 866 ms 793 ms 1009 ms pos0-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net
> [158.43.254.53]
> 6 878 ms 939 ms 909 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
> 7 985 ms 849 ms 919 ms linx-2.router.demon.net [195.66.224.13]
> 8 835 ms 778 ms 660 ms tele-core-1-fxp0.router.demon.net
> [194.159.252.5
> 3]
> 9 755 ms 760 ms 860 ms www.demon.net [194.159.254.213]
>
> Lordy! What gives?
>
> Its barely faster than a 56k modem. Getting very slow rates with
> http://computingcentral.msn.com/topics/bandwidth/speedtest50.asp
>
> Any other A&A ADSL users seeing this, or is it just me?
>
> Dino.
>
>
Rob O
chargea...@aquaphiles.com (Paul Cummins) wrote:
>Basically, if it's net and I don't know about it, I want to know why, and
>will know about it within 24 hours...
Great, it's taken BT over 2 weeks to tell me what up with my ADSL
connection - so, you now have 24hous to sort me out . . . . . ;-)
R
Paul Cummins
(Rob O) wrote:
> Great, it's taken BT over 2 weeks to tell me what up with my ADSL
> connection - so, you now have 24hous to sort me out . . . . . ;-)
Sorry, ADSL is not net, it's telephony. :-)
I'll quite happily start dealing with your issues. I charge £125 per hour
or part for consultancy. Please call me with your credit card details, and
I'll put you on the books.
Joe
enquiries for business and such have been posted they have responded quite
quickly. A little explanation wouldn't go amiss.
Adrian Kennard
>
> I find it quite strange that A&A have not responded to this thread. When
> enquiries for business and such have been posted they have responded quite
> quickly. A little explanation wouldn't go amiss.
Its more a question of "when I am not stuck in Leeds doing 14
hour days on site for a customer" then I respond quickly !!!
Seriously, I try to follow this group and respond quickly
what ever the issues are. I am not afraid of criticism
and would rather people tell me what is wrong than go
somewhere else. We want to provide a good service.
Now, it appears that there has been some intermittent
routing problems over UUNET.
Interestingly, while most of the traceroutes we saw show
a long delay on the first hop from us to UUNET, at the
same time some traceroutes from outside showed a similar
delay on the first hop in to UUNET and no problem
on the last hop in to us (which is something I can't explain).
Obviously we have been on to UUNET rather a lot trying
to get this resolved.
I don't think it is simply a capacity issue. We have the same
bandwidth to BT as to UUNET, so any capacity issue ought to show
up on the hop in to us via BT and not on the hop out from us
to UUNET.
It is intermittent, and we are looking in to it.
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