5 reasons why you should choose mobile broadband
CJB
And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
The Natural Philosopher
> http://www.lovemoney.com/news/get-the-best-deal/broadband/5-reasons-why-you-should-choose-mobile-broadband--video-script-5026.aspx
>
> And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
seems to me the reasons given there are precisely why I dont want it.
- no coverage anywhere I can use it
- crap download speeds
- I have a fixed line.
- costs a packet.
- requires additional hardware that I don't have.
- requires yet another contract with yet another supplier.
- its a damned sight harder to set up and debug ion e.g. Linux than a
router.
Steve
>
> CJB wrote:
> > http://www.lovemoney.com/news/get-the-best-deal/broadband/5-reasons-why-you-should-choose-mobile-broadband--video-script-5026.aspx
> >
> > And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
>
> seems to me the reasons given there are precisely why I dont want it.
>
> - no coverage anywhere I can use it
I have to use it and coverage is no guarantee of a reliable service. I
get a five bar HSPDA signal here from two separate providers (a third
lied about their coverage). During busy times it can become unusably
slow or just stop working altogether with no hint of an error message
just no data transfer.
Steve.
Peter Rogers
"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> CJB wrote:
> >
http://www.lovemoney.com/news/get-the-best-deal/broadband/5-reasons-why-you-
should-choose-mobile-broadband--video-script-5026.aspx
> >
> > And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
>
> seems to me the reasons given there are precisely why I dont want it.
>
> - no coverage anywhere I can use it
> - crap download speeds
> - I have a fixed line.
> - costs a packet.
> - requires additional hardware that I don't have.
> - requires yet another contract with yet another supplier.
> - its a damned sight harder to set up and debug ion e.g. Linux than a
> router.
>
If you took the time to check all these claims before you post, you would
find that most are complete rubbish.
No coverage?.......
I have used mobile broadband for quite a while now both at home and out on
the move using an HSDPA mobile phone, and although there is undoubtedly
areas where coverage might be patchy, I have yet to find anywhere that I go
where I cannot get a useable signal. Remember also that some people still
cant get fixed broadband either due to rural locations etc. I know some
people who use mobile broadband because they cannot get fixed broadband at
home. At home I get a full signal all the time.
Crap download speeds?.....
I get consistant 3mbps plus, whch is about the same speed as my fixed
connection at home. The mobile upload speed is faster (1024kbps) than my
fixed broadband service, so for sending data its faster than the fixed line.
I have a fixed line too...... which to me is a waste of money, and it will
be going once I have finished the contract :(
Costs a packet?
Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them enough
data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other cheaper options
than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
Requires additional hardware.....
Yes an HSDPA dongle or HSDPA capable mobile phone that can be purchased
quite cheaply on Ebay etc.
Requires yet another contract......
No contract required, I would never have looked at mobile broadband if it
had required another contract. I choose to pay as I go. If I dont want it,
I dont pay for it.
Its a damned sight harder to set up.......
Installation in XP, Vista and Windows 7 as just a case of plugging in the
dongle and it installs automatically. I run a Huawei router at home which
accepts a USB dongle, so that works just fine on any operating system
including Linux as it just connects directly to a LAN port for configuration
and use just like any other router does. The router offers 802.11g WiFi
connection and fixed connections via the LAN port. Set up is dead easy on
any operating system including Linux.
Regarding the radiation risks, many people use 802.11 wireless on their
laptop. I just do the same with my mobile broadband setup. The router and
dongle are installed in the loft, well away from my operating location
downstairs.
Regards
Peter
Fredxx
"Peter Rogers" <privat...@no-spam.net> wrote in message
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I find it quite variable.
>
> Crap download speeds?.....
> I get consistant 3mbps plus, whch is about the same speed as my fixed
> connection at home. The mobile upload speed is faster (1024kbps) than my
> fixed broadband service, so for sending data its faster than the fixed
> line.
That is not my experience, I find download speeds are a fraction I get from
a fixed line, often 200kb/s. It depends very much on the signal and time of
day.
> I have a fixed line too...... which to me is a waste of money, and it will
> be going once I have finished the contract :(
>
> Costs a packet?
> Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them enough
> data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other cheaper
> options
> than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
>
Some mobile contracts have a free internet connection as well as free
minutes and texts, 3GB bolt on can be as cheap as £5.
> Requires additional hardware.....
> Yes an HSDPA dongle or HSDPA capable mobile phone that can be purchased
> quite cheaply on Ebay etc.
>
> Requires yet another contract......
> No contract required, I would never have looked at mobile broadband if it
> had required another contract. I choose to pay as I go. If I dont want
> it,
> I dont pay for it.
The cheapest is generally contract, though a month notice is all that is
needed.
>
> Its a damned sight harder to set up.......
> Installation in XP, Vista and Windows 7 as just a case of plugging in the
> dongle and it installs automatically. I run a Huawei router at home which
> accepts a USB dongle, so that works just fine on any operating system
> including Linux as it just connects directly to a LAN port for
> configuration
> and use just like any other router does. The router offers 802.11g WiFi
> connection and fixed connections via the LAN port. Set up is dead easy on
> any operating system including Linux.
I agree that setup is designed to be easy.
>
> Regarding the radiation risks, many people use 802.11 wireless on their
> laptop. I just do the same with my mobile broadband setup. The router
> and
> dongle are installed in the loft, well away from my operating location
> downstairs.
>
I use a Bluetooth dongle to connect to my phone, which I thought was a lower
RF power than wireless?
Steve Terry
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>> http://www.lovemoney.com/news/get-the-best-deal/broadband/5-reasons-why-you-should-choose-mobile-broadband--video-script-5026.aspx
>>
>> And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
>
> seems to me the reasons given there are precisely why I dont want it.
>
> - no coverage anywhere I can use it
> - crap download speeds
> - I have a fixed line.
> - costs a packet.
>
>
I pay 5quid a month for Three internet, i get 2Mbps d/l for dial up costs,
using a tethered £40 Skype S2 HSDPA phone which with it's built in
modem software (for Win XP) and better aerial works better than a USB
dongle.
and the 10quid top up each 3 months gives me 5000 3 to 3 mins,
300 text and the first 150mb of data.
At the moment Superdrug have the INQ1 slide version for £29.99
Same spec as the S2, except with a better emailer app.
http://www.inqmobile.com/lang/en/phones/inq1/
Steve Terry
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PeeGee
Lucky you :-) I live less than 150m from a mast but get between
"emergency calls only" and one HSDPA bar (of 4). If I was driving down
the motorway, I would get a full signal! Though the top of the mast
being "below datum" for the houses in between may have something to do
with it :-)
That said, it is reasonably quick when a good connexion *is* present
(like in the loft) :-)
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PeeGee
"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)
Steve Terry
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>
> And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
>
>
a long way from my body.
Inverse law applies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
Peter Rogers
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Steve, I have an S2 here that wont boot up, ie when you switch it on it
shows the 3 logo, then at the point where it should show the desktop, it
goes off and starts again with the 3 logo. Basically it goes around in
circles. Ive googled this and found no fixes. The only way to stop it is
to remove the battery. Do you have any ideas?
Thanks
Steven Forrester
>
> At the moment Superdrug have the INQ1 slide version for £29.99
> Same spec as the S2, except with a better emailer app.
Just called three superdrug stores only to be told they DONT sell mobile
phones.
PeeGee
Not sure the INQ1 is as good as the S2 regarding reception - just my
experience.
Incidentally, both the S2 and the INQ1 are quite easy to get working via
USB with Linux (using a combination of sakis3g - http://www.sakis3g.org/
and the sendscsi utility from inq1linux -
http://wiki.github.com/stefanha/inq1linux/).
Andy Pandy
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>> Crap download speeds?.....
>> I get consistant 3mbps plus, whch is about the same speed as my
>> fixed
>> connection at home. The mobile upload speed is faster (1024kbps)
>> than my
>> fixed broadband service, so for sending data its faster than the
>> fixed line.
>
>
> That is not my experience, I find download speeds are a fraction I
> get from a fixed line, often 200kb/s. It depends very much on the
> signal and time of day.
Yeah - the mobile reception here is pretty good but when a friend came
round with his laptop with mobile broadband it was incredibly slow. He
gave up in the end and connected to my wireless router and got 7Mb/s.
>> I have a fixed line too...... which to me is a waste of money, and
>> it will
>> be going once I have finished the contract :(
>>
>> Costs a packet?
>> Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them
>> enough
>> data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other
>> cheaper options
>> than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
>>
>
> Some mobile contracts have a free internet connection as well as
> free minutes and texts, 3GB bolt on can be as cheap as £5.
Cheap? I get 40GB for £7 on my landline. And we probably use most of
it...
Even if you include the landline line rental it's about £18, with far
more inclusive minutes than on most mobile contracts.
--
Andy
The Natural Philosopher
> In article <i3b9d9$nog$3...@news.albasani.net>, t...@invalid.invalid says...
>> CJB wrote:
>>> http://www.lovemoney.com/news/get-the-best-deal/broadband/5-reasons-why-you-should-choose-mobile-broadband--video-script-5026.aspx
>>>
>>> And see the comments re: increased radiation risks.
>> seems to me the reasons given there are precisely why I dont want it.
>>
>> - no coverage anywhere I can use it
>
> I have to use it and coverage is no guarantee of a reliable service. I
> get a five bar HSPDA signal here from two separate providers (a third
> lied about their coverage).
<..>
During busy times it can become unusably
> slow or just stop working altogether with no hint of an error message
> just no data transfer.
>
That's as GOOD as it got for me.
Mostly not a bloody sausage,. Not even voice.
> Steve.
The Natural Philosopher
well Rural is what we are Boy. Either in the villages, or out in the
middle of an airfield. Guess what? Fuck all anywhere we needed it. Half
the time no voice either.
Plenty up and down motorways and in towns, where there were shit loads
of internet cafes etc etc.
>
> Crap download speeds?.....
> I get consistant 3mbps plus, whch is about the same speed as my fixed
> connection at home. The mobile upload speed is faster (1024kbps) than my
> fixed broadband service, so for sending data its faster than the fixed line.
>
Lucvky you.
Best I got awas 19.2k, for nearly 90 seconds. Then it dropped to 9.6k,
then it died completely.
Never got even connected at home.
> I have a fixed line too...... which to me is a waste of money, and it will
> be going once I have finished the contract :(
>
> Costs a packet?
> Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them enough
> data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other cheaper options
> than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
>
25Gig a month mobile for 15 quid? Dream on.
> Requires additional hardware.....
> Yes an HSDPA dongle or HSDPA capable mobile phone that can be purchased
> quite cheaply on Ebay etc.
>
> Requires yet another contract......
> No contract required, I would never have looked at mobile broadband if it
> had required another contract. I choose to pay as I go. If I dont want it,
> I dont pay for it.
PAYG is still a contract albeit a short term one. I don't really even
need a mobile phone. Mostly I am here, and when I am not,. mostly no
mobile phone works..
>
> Its a damned sight harder to set up.......
> Installation in XP, Vista and Windows 7 as just a case of plugging in the
> dongle and it installs automatically. I run a Huawei router at home which
> accepts a USB dongle, so that works just fine on any operating system
> including Linux as it just connects directly to a LAN port for configuration
> and use just like any other router does. The router offers 802.11g WiFi
> connection and fixed connections via the LAN port. Set up is dead easy on
> any operating system including Linux.
>
> Regarding the radiation risks, many people use 802.11 wireless on their
> laptop. I just do the same with my mobile broadband setup. The router and
> dongle are installed in the loft, well away from my operating location
> downstairs.
>
I have no problem with radiation. I eat kryptonite for breakfast, and my
gonads have long ceased to interest anyone but my GP.
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
>
>
Steve Terry
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I was in a North London one yesterday and they had a display offering
ZTE102 for £19.99 (no HSDPA), INQ mini and INQ1 for £29.99.
Nothing new, most larger Superdrug have had those displays offering
Three or sometimes T Mobile phones for at least the last 5 years.
Another shop that may have them on similar displays is "Savers"
http://www.savers.co.uk/
Steve Terry
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It's still going to beat any USB 3g dongle because of their lack of room
for a decent aerial.
S2 has a stainless steel battery cover which acts as a very good
counterpoise
to its aerial, try a S2 with its battery cover off you'll loose at least 2
bars.
>
> Incidentally, both the S2 and the INQ1 are quite easy to get working via
> USB with Linux (using a combination of sakis3g - http://www.sakis3g.org/
> and the sendscsi utility from inq1linux -
> http://wiki.github.com/stefanha/inq1linux/).
> PeeGee
>
That's useful to know, it seems Win7 users have the most trouble.
I'm going to be using XP SP3 for some time yet, so not a problem for me.
Using a tethered S2 to post this.
Steve Terry
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>> "CJB" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >
> shows the 3 logo, then at the point where it should show the desktop, it
> goes off and starts again with the 3 logo. Basically it goes around in
> circles. Ive googled this and found no fixes. The only way to stop it is
> to remove the battery. Do you have any ideas?
> Thanks
>
>
Some of them are of very poor quality and wont hold a charge,
or at least not enough to do more than just switch the phone on and then die
If its not that, then if less than a year old take it back to the dealer
you got it from and get a replacement or repair under guarantee.
Peter Rogers
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> Peter Rogers wrote:
> > "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> well Rural is what we are Boy. Either in the villages, or out in the
> middle of an airfield. Guess what? Fuck all anywhere we needed it. Half
> the time no voice either.
I appreciate your comments but they are based on just your experience, which
sounds like its been a bad one. It is rare to find someone online praising
any service, as people generally only feel the need to voice their opinions
when things dont work as they expect them to. I am just offering the
experince of someone who is getting a good service from mobile broadband.
Your claims were based on your individual results which were far from
satisfactory I agree. Mine in the other hand are very favourable and I
would be without my mobile broadband service.
Peter
Peter Rogers
I have replaced the battery with a known good one, and same problem. Its
over a year old, its getting close to two years old, but its a bit worrying
as I know four other people who have had S2s go the same way now. It seems
to be some firmware glitch that causes problems over time and without
warning the phone just refuses to boot up any more. In the following video
is an orginal Skypephone 1, with exactly the same fault. So its not just
the S2 that is affected either, its common to both models.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsh0Cz65x8A
I was quite pleased with my S2 until I saw several of them dropping like
flies..... Now I am not so sure about getting another one incase it goes
the same way again. Its not the cost of replacement that bothers me, its
the inconvenience of it all. I had considered taking this to a repair
centre, but then realised it had all kinds of personal data on it that might
be able to be recovered and used, personal email, banking info, and other
business ralated stuff I dont want to share. With this in mind I am not keen
on leaving it at a repair centre.
It seems the problem is becoming more widely known now as these phones just
fail to boot up when switched on..... see here...
http://tinyurl.com/3xo3x93
Regards
Peter
The Natural Philosopher
> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Peter Rogers wrote:
>
>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>
>> well Rural is what we are Boy. Either in the villages, or out in the
>> middle of an airfield. Guess what? Fuck all anywhere we needed it. Half
>> the time no voice either.
>
> I appreciate your comments but they are based on just your experience, which
> sounds like its been a bad one. It is rare to find someone online praising
> any service, as people generally only feel the need to voice their opinions
> when things dont work as they expect them to. I am just offering the
> experince of someone who is getting a good service from mobile broadband.
> Your claims were based on your individual results which were far from
> satisfactory I agree. Mine in the other hand are very favourable and I
> would be without my mobile broadband service.
>
For sure. If your bandwidth needs are low, and you get good coverage,
its fine.
Just don't extend the particular to the general.
We invested in a dongle to try and have internet access at a selection
of outdoor shows, so we could take orders and cash online. Not one site
had sufficient coverage to even make a connection.
It didn't work at my house, it didn't work at my mates house.
It didn't work at the factory either. That cant even get ADSL.
We threw it away.
> Peter
>
>
Fredxx
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>>>
>>> Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them enough
>>> data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other cheaper
>>> options
>>> than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
>>>
>>
>> Some mobile contracts have a free internet connection as well as free
>> minutes and texts, 3GB bolt on can be as cheap as £5.
>
> Cheap? I get 40GB for £7 on my landline. And we probably use most of it...
>
> Even if you include the landline line rental it's about £18, with far more
> inclusive minutes than on most mobile contracts.
>
Far more? Unlimited BT claim to have a 600 minute fair use policy. I also
can't send texts. Where for £15 inc VAT its possible to have 300 minutes,
300 texts and 3GB of data. No landline can beat that.
Andy Pandy
>
> "Andy Pandy" <spam8...@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Fredxx" <fre...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> Costs a packet?
>>>> Not at all, for most users 10 or 15 pounds a month will give them
>>>> enough
>>>> data allowance to last the month easily, and there are other
>>>> cheaper options
>>>> than that as well. (Unless you are an heavy downloader).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some mobile contracts have a free internet connection as well as
>>> free minutes and texts, 3GB bolt on can be as cheap as £5.
>>
>> Cheap? I get 40GB for £7 on my landline. And we probably use most
>> of it...
>>
>> Even if you include the landline line rental it's about £18, with
>> far more inclusive minutes than on most mobile contracts.
>>
>
> Far more? Unlimited BT claim to have a 600 minute fair use policy.
Where do you get that from? I can't see how they can get away with
claiming "unlimited" calls if they restrict it to such a ridiculously
low limit. I use TalkTalk and we use more than 600 mins practically
every month. Sometimes well over 1000. Never had any problems. Mind
you I wouldn't put anything past BT.
> I also can't send texts.
I send about 10 texts a month so I'm really not interested in landline
texts, though it is possible and I think TT do a package. I use my
company mobile at (IIRC) 3p per text. Or use email as a lot of people
seem to have email on their mobiles these days.
> Where for £15 inc VAT its possible to have 300 minutes, 300 texts
> and 3GB of data. No landline can beat that.
I prefer having 40GB data, 6Mb/s download speeds and unlimited minutes
to landlines for about £18. What would that cost on a mobile?
--
Andy
Fredxx
You have that preference. I was making the point that you can get calls,
texts and internet substantially less using mobile. If you're a heavy user
then of course there are enough landline providers.
Andy Pandy
>>> Where for £15 inc VAT its possible to have 300 minutes, 300 texts
>>> and 3GB of data. No landline can beat that.
>>
>> I prefer having 40GB data, 6Mb/s download speeds and unlimited
>> minutes
>> to landlines for about £18. What would that cost on a mobile?
>
> You have that preference. I was making the point that you can get
> calls, texts and internet substantially less using mobile. If
> you're a heavy user then of course there are enough landline
> providers.
I wouldn't call £15 instead of £18 "substantially less"! Especially
since the landline option gets you over 10 times the data, speed and
minutes.
--
Andy
Fredxx
Where do you get your unlimited phone calls and your broadband from?
Andy Pandy
TalkTalk. PlusNet do a similar tariff.
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Fredxx
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>> Andy Pandy wrote:
>>> "Fredxx" <fre...@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i3f2be$k95$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Where for £15 inc VAT its possible to have 300 minutes, 300
>>>>>> texts
>>>>>> and 3GB of data. No landline can beat that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer having 40GB data, 6Mb/s download speeds and unlimited
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> to landlines for about £18. What would that cost on a mobile?
>>>>
>>>> You have that preference. I was making the point that you can get
>>>> calls, texts and internet substantially less using mobile. If
>>>> you're a heavy user then of course there are enough landline
>>>> providers.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't call £15 instead of £18 "substantially less"! Especially
>>> since the landline option gets you over 10 times the data, speed
>>> and
>>> minutes.
>>
>> Where do you get your unlimited phone calls and your broadband from?
>
> TalkTalk. PlusNet do a similar tariff.
But not one which gives free calls during the day at that price? For that I
would have to add another £8 with TalkTalk.
Steve Terry
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>> >> "CJB" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
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>> >> >
> flies..... Now I am not so sure about getting another one incase it goes
> the same way again. Its not the cost of replacement that bothers me, its
> the inconvenience of it all. I had considered taking this to a repair
> centre, but then realised it had all kinds of personal data on it that
> might
> be able to be recovered and used, personal email, banking info, and other
> business ralated stuff I dont want to share. With this in mind I am not
> keen
> on leaving it at a repair centre.
>
> It seems the problem is becoming more widely known now as these phones
> just
> fail to boot up when switched on..... see here...
> http://tinyurl.com/3xo3x93
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
Requiring a reflash, which requires specialised hardware.
and a S2 you can't just wizz up to your local Club SE/Nokia centre
What a bugger
Andy Pandy
I get free local calls and calls to other TT customers in the day.
Also 03 numbers as they class 03 as local for some reason.
> For that I would have to add another £8 with TalkTalk.
Nope, it's £4 more. We usually only make £1-2 worth of national
daytime calls to non TT customers so it's not worth paying the extra
£4.
--
Andy