ITV1 HD in Scotland
George
would not have read it. Otheres may be in the same boat.
WE, in Scotland (and possibly elsewhere), are unable to get ITV! HD via
the EPG. However, I've just found out that it can be added manually:
Go to Services>Add Channels
Enter Frequency - 11.427
Alter Polarity - H
Symbol Rate - 27.5 (default)
FEC - 2/3 (default)
Press Yellow to search.
In results of search, select channel 10510.
Press Select to return
Press Yellow to store.
To view ITV1 HD, you need to go to Services>Other Channels and select in
the normal way.
Note - no live pause, rewind or recording (to SkyHD disc) is possible
with manually added channels.
HTH
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George from Cartland
Gary
"George" <nor...@cartland-village.co.uk> wrote in message
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I saw this and it may be of use
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/freesat/140608-how-get-itv-hd-ireland-scotland-freesat-hd-boxes.html
Gary
Gary
"Gary" <g.goo...@dottesco.net> wrote in message
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It mentions Sky box and you may be able to record???
Gary
George
...that thread appears to refer to the initial red button access route,
which is,as far as I am aware, superceded (in England/Wales) by a
"proper" channel.
What I don't understand is, if I can access English ITV and BBC channels
from the EPG (and I can), why is ITV HD not avaialable on the same basis?
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George from Cartland
Peter Pratten
<nor...@cartland-village.co.uk> writes
>What I don't understand is, if I can access English ITV and BBC
>channels from the EPG (and I can), why is ITV HD not avaialable on the
>same basis?
Remember that ITV plc does not include the Scottish and NI parts of the
ITV network. As the thread explains STV and UTV refused the red button,
so also they refused the channel. They won't have services just because
England/Wales has them. You need to start a campaign to get them to
agree to it.
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Peter Pratten
Please reply in group only
George
I think you may have missed my point.
In Scotland, Channel 101 is programmed to BBC Scotland. However, I can
get, say, BBC London on 974. Similarly, ITV London is on 993 while STV
is on 103.
If the EPG allows me, in Scotland, to view other regions in SD, why not,
then, in HD? After all, I pay the same �10/month for access as someone
in England.
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George from Cartland
Brian Mc
: If the EPG allows me, in Scotland, to view other regions in SD, why not,
: in England.
You play �10/month for the SKY HD Package.....you would get BBC/ITV/C4/STV
(as appropriate) HD channels WITHOUT paying that!
What the EPG allows you to do depends on the broadcasters! The BBC pay Sky
for all the extra entries which allow users access "other regions". ITV have
never done this - except for ITV1 London which is needed for some
visually described programmes.
George
> George<nor...@cartland-village.co.uk> wrote:
> : If the EPG allows me, in Scotland, to view other regions in SD, why not,
> : then, in HD? After all, I pay the same �10/month for access as someone
> : in England.
>
> You play �10/month for the SKY HD Package.....you would get BBC/ITV/C4/STV
> (as appropriate) HD channels WITHOUT paying that!
...yes, I do know that. What I'm talking about is the �10/month I pay
for the HD package - I don't get as much as someone in England on the
same viewing pack as I have. It is irrelevant as to what I get for free.
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George from Cartland
George
> In<hvb350$2ba$1...@news.datemas.de>, George<nor...@cartland-village.co.uk>
...not done that, yet, but rest assured, I'll post a report when I have
done so.
I was merely discussing a point which, after all, is the purpose of
usenet newsgroups?
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George from Cartland
Brian Mc
: >...yes, I do know that. What I'm talking about is the £10/month I pay
: >same viewing pack as I have. It is irrelevant as to what I get for free.
How so - none of your £10 goes towards these cchannels (which you would
get by paying $0/month!)
: What did Sky customer services say when you put this point to them?
Just exactly `WHAT would you expect them to say?????
In this case Sky are PAID by ITV1HD/STVHD to do what they are contracted to!
Sky have zero say in what can be done in this case.
George
> In<hvbi71$7kj$1...@south.jnrs.ja.net>, b...@somewhere.ac.uk (Brian Mc) wrote:
>
>> Mike Henry<{$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> :>...yes, I do know that. What I'm talking about is the £10/month I pay
>> :>for the HD package - I don't get as much as someone in England on the
>> :>same viewing pack as I have. It is irrelevant as to what I get for free.
>
> trimming! :-)
>
>> How so - none of your £10 goes towards these cchannels (which you would
>> get by paying $0/month!)
>
>> : What did Sky customer services say when you put this point to them?
>>
>> Just exactly `WHAT would you expect them to say?????
>
> answers already posted, but in a considerably more polite tone and without
> shouting at him. It would be useful to know if they give some other reason
> that we haven't already thought of. Perhaps we'd be able to point out any
> lies/flaws in their response and help George form a suitable rebuttal for
> a second phonecall to Sky. Who knows. I think Peter's on the money though.
...Thank you, Mike, for your positive reply - especially since it came
twice!! (-:
I've noticed before in this and other forums that, when someone like me
makes an observation or comment which is, possibly in retrospect a bit
naive, there is always someone who will shout them down. A bit like CJ
Mooi on Eggheads when he is scathing of someone not knowing the answer
to an "obvious" question.
It does inhibit some from posting and being involved in discussions.
Yes. The "proper" course of action is to phone Sky, but I thought (and
still do) think that the value of a newsgroup is the sharing of
experience and self-help.
Scenario: User 1 recognises something that might be better and so
contacts Sky Helpdesk. Helpdesk provides an explanation. User 1 is
satisfied. Meanwhile, User 2 notices the same thing and contacts Sky
Helpdesk....
Having had time to consider my initial thoughts on the subject (ie no
ITV1 HD on EPG in Scotland), I have, with the input of those of you who
are more interested in helping than putting down we simple folk, come to
the following conclusions:
My £10 HD sub is, of course to allow me to have access to HD versions of
those SD channels to which my basic Sky sub entitles me. I don't have
film or sports channels, so no HD versions of those (apart from Sky
Sports 3 and Eurosport). That seems OK, I knew that before taking out
the HD sub.
The issue of ITV1 HD is, I think, different. OK, as has been posted,
BBC and ITV pay for inclusion of other regions (BBC) and ITV London for
the reasons previously given by Brian McD. I assume that ITV1 HD is
supra-regional - one channel for all (English) regions? If this is so,
then there is no reason I can see (apart from media politics) why it
should not be available to all ITV regions.
The fact that I can get it through "other channels" and some ITV1
programmes are flagged as "simulcast on ITV1 HD)" in my Scottish edition
of Radio Times (other listings magazines are available) makes the whole
issue of unavailability in Scotland a farce.
If it is there, and available, ISTM that it would be in Sky/ITV's best
interest to maximise HD accessibility to encourage uptake. After the
football and tennis are over, the short term demand for HD could dwindle...
I believe that this discussion has probably now run its course. If I do
contact Sky and/or ITV and discover something different to what has
already been posted I may re-post. Or I may just keep it to myself and
let you all find it out for yourselves!
--
George from Cartland
Peter Pratten
<nor...@cartland-village.co.uk> writes
>The issue of ITV1 HD is, I think, different. OK, as has been posted,
>BBC and ITV pay for inclusion of other regions (BBC) and ITV London for
>the reasons previously given by Brian McD. I assume that ITV1 HD is
>supra-regional - one channel for all (English) regions? If this is so,
>then there is no reason I can see (apart from media politics) why it
>should not be available to all ITV regions.
>
regions. This is not the case with Scotland and Northern Ireland which
have some of their own programmes which the broadcasters (who are not
part of ITV plc) have not agreed to. If anyone should have any
grievance it would be the Welsh who would miss their national
variations.
>The fact that I can get it through "other channels" and some ITV1
>programmes are flagged as "simulcast on ITV1 HD)" in my Scottish
>edition of Radio Times (other listings magazines are available) makes
>the whole issue of unavailability in Scotland a farce.
I suspect the reason Radio Times mentions ITV1 HD is because the
Scottish edition serves the Borders area which ITV treat as part of
England for programming.
Peter Pratten
<pe...@localhost.co.uk> writes
>Remember that ITV plc does not include the Scottish and NI parts of the
>ITV network. As the thread explains STV and UTV refused the red
>button, so also they refused the channel. They won't have services
>just because England/Wales has them. You need to start a campaign to
>get them to agree to it.
It seems that this is not as clear as I thought. I've come across a
statement in the 2010 edition of the Television Viewer's Guide that
Channel TV, STV and UTV had agreed to show ITV1 HD between 1800 and 2300
on Freeview so I am wondering why this did apply to satellite as well.
Something else puzzled me. I don't normally watch ITV news but as the
BBC was on late due to football I put it on yesterday. When it came to
the regional news there was a big black caption blocking out the lower
part of the screen saying to get regional use tune to ITV1. But the
programme running behind the caption _was_ my region's news, so why the
caption? How many HD variants are being transmitted?
Gary
"Peter Pratten" <pe...@localhost.co.uk> wrote in message
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4 at least that is how many streams i found
Mark Carver
> How many HD variants are being transmitted?
Four ITV, one STV
10832 H ITV London FTA
10936 V ITV Granada FTA
STV West FTA
Central W FTV
11973 V Meridian FTV
Last time I looked on my Freesat box, my version on Ch 119 was London, I'm
firmly in Meridian land, North Hampshire.
Presumably some of those with Sky boxes get a closer version of ITV ?
--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.
Gordon
The idiots guide to get ITV HD in Scotland.
1. Unplug box
2. Remove card
3. Plug box in again, wait for listings.
4. Turn to CH178
5. Watch England getting beat
Peter Pratten
<8faeceb7-ed7d-49f3...@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Gordon <sincl...@yahoo.com> writes
>On 20 June, 12:28, Mark Carver <mark.car...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Peter Pratten wrote:
>> > How many HD variants are being transmitted?
>>
>> Four ITV, one STV
>>
>> 10832 H ITV London FTA
>>
>> 10936 V ITV Granada FTA
>> STV West FTA
George, please note, do you come under STV West?
>> Central W FTV
>>
>> 11973 V Meridian FTV
>>
>> Last time I looked on my Freesat box, my version on Ch 119 was London, I'm
>> firmly in Meridian land, North Hampshire.
>>
>> Presumably some of those with Sky boxes get a closer version of ITV ?
>>
Maybe, as I'm also North Hampshire but with Sky boxes.
>
>The idiots guide to get ITV HD in Scotland.
>
>1. Unplug box
>
>2. Remove card
>
>3. Plug box in again, wait for listings.
>
>4. Turn to CH178
>
>5. Watch England getting beat
>
Well, that's a way round! You'll have to reverse the procedure
afterwards.
Bob Lucas
functions won't work without a viewing card.
"Peter Pratten" <pe...@localhost.co.uk> wrote in message
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George
> In article
> <8faeceb7-ed7d-49f3...@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> Gordon <sincl...@yahoo.com> writes
>> On 20 June, 12:28, Mark Carver <mark.car...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Peter Pratten wrote:
>>> > How many HD variants are being transmitted?
>>>
>>> Four ITV, one STV
>>>
>>> 10832 H ITV London FTA
>>>
>>> 10936 V ITV Granada FTA
>>> STV West FTA
>
> George, please note, do you come under STV West?
I assume so (stay in ML11). Does the above mean I should get STV HD via
the EPG? If so, I don't.
--
George from Cartland
Mark Carver
>> George, please note, do you come under STV West?
>
> I assume so (stay in ML11). Does the above mean I should get STV HD via
> the EPG? If so, I don't.
No, on a Sky box currently not. I saw one rumour that STV and Sky can't
agree terms for EPG inclusion of STV HD, so it might be for the time
being STV HD will be Freesat only as far EPG inclusion goes ?
Gordon
I installed a Freesat HD today and there is no STV HD..I changed
customers postcode to SW19 and got ITV HD on 119 ( if I remember
number correctly)
Peter Pratten
<mark....@invalid.invalid> writes
might have been wrong.
Peter Pratten
Does this satisfy George?
Vincent
I'm in Scotland. But can't see any STV HD in the planner yet.
Any idea what channel it's meant to be on? Or what channel ITV HD is
on in England?
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Vincent
Brian Mc
: Any idea what channel it's meant to be on? Or what channel ITV HD is
: on in England?
178 is the answer to both your questions - STV HD will appear on Scottish
STBs on the same channel ITV HD is on in England and Wales.
Peter Pratten
<jim....@removethisukonline.co.uk> writes
>In article <k61b46dl50uuvnrtf...@4ax.com>,
>nos...@reply.to.newsgroup says...
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:37:11 +0100, Peter Pratten
>> <pe...@localhost.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <88gnug...@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver
>> ><mark....@invalid.invalid> writes
>> >>George wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> George, please note, do you come under STV West?
>> >>> I assume so (stay in ML11). Does the above mean I should get STV HD
>> >>>via the EPG? If so, I don't.
>> >>
>> >>No, on a Sky box currently not. I saw one rumour that STV and Sky can't
>> >>agree terms for EPG inclusion of STV HD, so it might be for the time
>> >>being STV HD will be Freesat only as far EPG inclusion goes ?
>> >>
>> >I have just received a notice that ITV1 STV HD came on a few days ago.
>> >Does this satisfy George?
>>
>> I'm in Scotland. But can't see any STV HD in the planner yet.
>
>>
>> Any idea what channel it's meant to be on? Or what channel ITV HD is
>> on in England?
>
>
That's where I got the message from. Several regions were listed as
having gone on. Actually it's shown as "STV HD" not "ITV1 STV HD" and
listings start 01:00 on 18th July.
Adrian
For those with Freesat boxes/TVs STV HD will be on 119.
--
Adrian
Vincent
<jim....@removethisukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>> >I have just received a notice that ITV1 STV HD came on a few days ago.
>> >Does this satisfy George?
>>
>> I'm in Scotland. But can't see any STV HD in the planner yet.
>
>That is because it isn't.
>>
>> Any idea what channel it's meant to be on? Or what channel ITV HD is
>> on in England?
>
>178 according to Digiguide
I did notice a Five HD - when did that sneak in?
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Vincent
George
...just back from holidays and saw this. Got /so/ excited!
Unfortunately, not the case. No STV HD on Sky. Googling STV and HD
came up with this web page:
http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/180242-stv-launches-hd-service/ but the
last paragraph tells it all:
"STV is currently working with Sky, Freesat and ITV Network with a view
to making STVHD available via satellite as soon as possible and will
provide an update on this in due course."
--
George from Cartland