ZDF now in HD on Astra at 19.2E
Roger R
They join ARTE HD on the same transponder in Free to Air availability.
The pictures, as with the previous promo's look top quality though I don't
know what bit rates are used. Perhaps they will be the bench mark with
which to compare the BBC's efforts.
Roger R
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Agree, excellent quality pictures. A few other FTA channels.. Servus TV
HD, Anixe HD, Eins Festival HD and Astra HD Promo available on 19.2 also.
Servus TV pics I find particularly good.
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John Legon
uk> wrote in article <hl38ek$g34$1...@speranza.aioe.org>:
Astra 19.2� East - 11.362 GHz, Horizontal
kb/s
Min - Avg - Max
Das Erste HD 12173 - 12353 - 12507
ZDF HD 12161 - 12395 - 12716
arte HD 12050 - 12403 - 12591
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BBC HD 9720 - 9723 - 9728
davidr...@postmaster.co.uk
> Astra 19.2° East - 11.362 GHz, Horizontal
>
> kb/s
> Min - Avg - Max
>
> Das Erste HD 12173 - 12353 - 12507
> ZDF HD 12161 - 12395 - 12716
> arte HD 12050 - 12403 - 12591
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> BBC HD 9720 - 9723 - 9728
Oh those pesky Europeans! They _will_ keep following the EBU's
recommendations for acceptable broadcast quality - which as anyone
from the BBC will tell you, no longer apply because, er...
Cheers,
David..
J G Miller
> Oh those pesky Europeans!
The BBC are just as European as ARD and ZDF.
> They _will_ keep following the EBU's recommendations for acceptable
> broadcast quality - which as anyone from the BBC will tell you, no
> longer apply because, er...
Because they are not using the super efficient cutting edge technology
encoders which the BBC are now using.
And maybe also because they do not have to lower the quality on satellite
to match the quality on terrestrial?
Brian Gaff
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Brian Gaff
In this case though, though the higher rates probably are slightly less
accurate, the bbc is pushing at the limits of compression which presumably
will break much sooner on busy pictures, which is what people will notice.
I'm not sure if I wish I still had sight or not at the moment, it could wind
me up big time with all these claims.
Brian
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J G Miller
> How are ZDF funded these days?
Same as usual -- from their share of money collected from the television
receiver registration licence fee and from paid commercial messages
outside of prime time and children's programs.
Presumably monies received from the radio licence fee only goes to
the broadcasting organisations which operate radio stations, or they
could just thrown all the money into one pot and then divide it up
between ARD, ZDF, the regional broadcasting organisations, and perhaps
via ARTE Deutschland GmbH, a joint company of ARD and ZDF, to ARTE.
It is also worth noting that ZDF is not a federally owned organisation,
but is jointly owned by the German states, and that it operates no
transmitters, but is broadcast by transmitters of the ARD and T-Systems
Media Broadcast, a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom.
tony sayer
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Sez it all really;(..
Bring back an engineer to the BBC board;)))...
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Roger R <decoder...@clara.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> ZDF and Das Erst have now commenced HD broadcasts on Astra at 19.2E.
> They join ARTE HD on the same transponder in Free to Air availability.
Just done a re-scan on my HD box. Nothing come up marked as ZDF HD or
whatever. To find ITV HD I needed the frequency. Is this available for the
ZDF channels?
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <hl38ek$g34$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Roger R <decoder...@clara.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
>> ZDF and Das Erst have now commenced HD broadcasts on Astra at 19.2E.
>> They join ARTE HD on the same transponder in Free to Air availability.
>
> Just done a re-scan on my HD box. Nothing come up marked as ZDF HD or
> whatever. To find ITV HD I needed the frequency. Is this available for the
> ZDF channels?
>
>
11362 H tp 11 DVB-S2 - 8PSK 22000-2/3
<http://www.lyngsat.com/astra19.htm>
John Legon
s...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in article <21389ba8-4665-4d05-9deb-
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It's interesting to note that the new German HD broadcasts are 720p/50
as opposed to 1080i/25. Das Erste seem to think that this gives the
better picture quality overall, taking motion into account...
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Dave Plowman (News)
Thanks - I'll have a play shortly.
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Klaus Kramer
> It's interesting to note that the new German HD broadcasts are 720p/50
> as opposed to 1080i/25. Das Erste seem to think that this gives the
> better picture quality overall, taking motion into account...
>
It would be better, if only they would produce in 720p/50 - but they
don�t. Bundesliga (soccer) and other sports events are produced in 1080i
because of international value. Most TV studios are also 1080i,
scaling down to 720p on the satellite transponder feed, thanks to EBU...
Klaus
davidr...@postmaster.co.uk
Whether that's poor or acceptable depends on the quality of the
conversion.
In theory it won't look as sharp as 1440x1080, but in practice...!?
Can anyone post a screen shot?
Cheers,
David.