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sintv
Sep 4, 2012, 3:44:53 PM9/4/12
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I was asked to finish a small distribution system that someone had started but didnt finish. The cable used seems have a slightly bigger diam than coax but is also very sticky with a glue like substance coating the inner. Its also double screened and its going to be a pain to put f-conns on it. Any idea what the previous 'genius' has used. Nothing special about the system..its just an aerial to 4 rooms...
tony sayer
Sep 4, 2012, 6:59:48 PM9/4/12
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In article <e681ce82-800d-4a12...@googlegroups.com>,
sintv <sincl...@gmail.com> scribeth thus
Sounds very much like the cable the cable TV installers use.
Very sticky is correct!. You should be able to get crimp F types on it
but they may not quite be the ones you usually use. Its made like that
to stop the ingress of water if the outer jacket is punctured which from
what I've seen of it .. it doesn't do that well....
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Tony Sayer
sintv <sincl...@gmail.com> scribeth thus
Very sticky is correct!. You should be able to get crimp F types on it
but they may not quite be the ones you usually use. Its made like that
to stop the ingress of water if the outer jacket is punctured which from
what I've seen of it .. it doesn't do that well....
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Tony Sayer
Graham.
Sep 4, 2012, 7:36:35 PM9/4/12
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:59:48 +0100, tony sayer <to...@bancom.co.uk>
wrote:
Is it even 75ohm cable?
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Bill Wright
Sep 4, 2012, 8:59:42 PM9/4/12
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sintv wrote:
> I was asked to finish a small distribution system that someone had started but didnt finish.
This cable has been stolen by a cable TV operative and sold or given away.
> I was asked to finish a small distribution system that someone had started but didnt finish.
Bill
Ian Jackson
Sep 5, 2012, 3:42:47 AM9/5/12
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In message <jXGLrOEk...@bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer
<to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
Horrible stuff. It's called 'flooded' coax. I don't think it's in
general use in the cable TV industry (at least I never came across it
very often). Do a Google on 'flooded coax cable'.
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Ian
<to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
general use in the cable TV industry (at least I never came across it
very often). Do a Google on 'flooded coax cable'.
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Ian
Brian Gaff
Sep 5, 2012, 4:08:49 AM9/5/12
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Oh is that why this sort of cable is sticky. If it really does work, one
wonders why its not all made that way.
Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
bin very long pieces of cable. the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
were self employed fol, they would not do this!
(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
Brian
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wonders why its not all made that way.
Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
bin very long pieces of cable. the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
were self employed fol, they would not do this!
(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
Brian
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tony sayer
Sep 5, 2012, 4:00:17 AM9/5/12
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In article <EXQpxmD3...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk>, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVET
HISja...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
Its used a lot in this area where its referred to as "Sidecar" a through
section its a figure of 8 where one side is the TV co-ax the other
contains Two copper pairs for phone use..
And it is 75 Ohm...
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Tony Sayer
HISja...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
section its a figure of 8 where one side is the TV co-ax the other
contains Two copper pairs for phone use..
And it is 75 Ohm...
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Tony Sayer
Ian Jackson
Sep 5, 2012, 5:01:15 AM9/5/12
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In message <k271ag$kvu$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
runs, I expect a lot of fairly chunky low-loss cable (but not quite "as
thick as a horse's prick", which is how one of my bosses once correctly
described a type of being used in Holland) has been pulled out and
scrapped. However, the final drop cable from the distribution cabinet to
the home (usually RG6 - and occasionally RG11 for long runs) will have
remained in place.
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Ian
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Oh is that why this sort of cable is sticky. If it really does work, one
>wonders why its not all made that way.
> Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
>bin very long pieces of cable. the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
>were self employed fol, they would not do this!
>
>(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
>
As fibre has replaced most of the long multi-amplifier cable TV trunk
>wonders why its not all made that way.
> Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
>bin very long pieces of cable. the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
>were self employed fol, they would not do this!
>
>(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
>
runs, I expect a lot of fairly chunky low-loss cable (but not quite "as
thick as a horse's prick", which is how one of my bosses once correctly
described a type of being used in Holland) has been pulled out and
scrapped. However, the final drop cable from the distribution cabinet to
the home (usually RG6 - and occasionally RG11 for long runs) will have
remained in place.
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Ian
tony sayer
Sep 5, 2012, 5:57:44 AM9/5/12
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In article <k271ag$kvu$1...@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> scribeth thus
cable runs then what a typical domestic aerial would ever have.
From our local cabinet its around 250 metres where we used to live about
350 odd!....
And you just do not what underground joints in a small diameter cable
duct!...
>the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
>were self employed fol, they would not do this!
>
>(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
They get permission to take it to the scrappie so I hear where the price
isn't as high as domestic cable scrap...
>
>
>Brian
>
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Tony Sayer
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> scribeth thus
>Oh is that why this sort of cable is sticky. If it really does work, one
>wonders why its not all made that way.
> Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
>bin very long pieces of cable.
They do that and the reason is that generally they have much longer
>wonders why its not all made that way.
> Actually stolen is not exactly right. I've actually seen cable installers
>bin very long pieces of cable.
cable runs then what a typical domestic aerial would ever have.
From our local cabinet its around 250 metres where we used to live about
350 odd!....
And you just do not what underground joints in a small diameter cable
duct!...
>the waste must be terrible. I'm sure if they
>were self employed fol, they would not do this!
>
>(They tend to leave it in a hedge)
isn't as high as domestic cable scrap...
>
>
>Brian
>
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Tony Sayer
Graham.
Sep 5, 2012, 12:36:12 PM9/5/12
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:00:17 +0100, tony sayer <to...@bancom.co.uk>
wrote:
I doubt it's that, the OP would have described that feature.
Unless, of course the two parts can easily be separated like the
shotgun cable Sky installers use.
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Unless, of course the two parts can easily be separated like the
shotgun cable Sky installers use.
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Graham.
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tony sayer
Sep 5, 2012, 3:07:19 PM9/5/12
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In article <rjve48lcicbp8rek3...@4ax.com>, Graham.
<m...@privacy.net.invalid> scribeth thus
Yes it is easily separable and I believe shotgun might be another name
thats used for it but sidecar was/ is what its called in these parts and
it is deffo 75 ohm!.
They do make a single version of it for some installs but the figure 8
is what's normally installed.....
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Tony Sayer
<m...@privacy.net.invalid> scribeth thus
thats used for it but sidecar was/ is what its called in these parts and
it is deffo 75 ohm!.
They do make a single version of it for some installs but the figure 8
is what's normally installed.....
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Tony Sayer
Terry Casey
Sep 6, 2012, 9:35:28 AM9/6/12
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In article <e681ce82-800d-4a12...@googlegroups.com>,
sincl...@gmail.com says...
viscous material that oozes and seals the cable against moisture ingress
if the sheath is damaged.
If you want to remove it, strip back the outer sheath first, then wipe
with a rag soaked in white spirit.
A word of warning: the outer sheath of this cable is designed for
strength and can produce noxious gases if the event of fire.
It is compulsory in a CATV installation to splice it to a length of
harmless interior grade cable immediately before it enters the
subscribers premises.
If this cable has been run internally, I would suggest that you look for
the manufacturer's identification marking on the sheath and consult the
on-line literature before proceeding and, if the customer refuses to
have all internal cables replaced, make sure you get a legally binding
exemption for liability ...
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Terry
sincl...@gmail.com says...
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> I was asked to finish a small distribution system that someone had started but didnt finish. The cable used seems have a slightly bigger diam than coax but is also very sticky with a glue like substance coating the inner. Its also double screened and its going to be a pain to put f-conns on it. Any idea what the previous 'genius' has used. Nothing special about the system..its just an aerial to 4 rooms...
Almost certainly 'Flooded' RG6 CATV 'drop' cable. The sticky stuff is a
> I was asked to finish a small distribution system that someone had started but didnt finish. The cable used seems have a slightly bigger diam than coax but is also very sticky with a glue like substance coating the inner. Its also double screened and its going to be a pain to put f-conns on it. Any idea what the previous 'genius' has used. Nothing special about the system..its just an aerial to 4 rooms...
viscous material that oozes and seals the cable against moisture ingress
if the sheath is damaged.
If you want to remove it, strip back the outer sheath first, then wipe
with a rag soaked in white spirit.
A word of warning: the outer sheath of this cable is designed for
strength and can produce noxious gases if the event of fire.
It is compulsory in a CATV installation to splice it to a length of
harmless interior grade cable immediately before it enters the
subscribers premises.
If this cable has been run internally, I would suggest that you look for
the manufacturer's identification marking on the sheath and consult the
on-line literature before proceeding and, if the customer refuses to
have all internal cables replaced, make sure you get a legally binding
exemption for liability ...
--
Terry
Terry Casey
Sep 6, 2012, 9:36:49 AM9/6/12
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In article <mOZadFJY...@bancom.co.uk>, to...@bancom.co.uk says...
copper ...
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Terry
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>
> They get permission to take it to the scrappie so I hear where the price
> isn't as high as domestic cable scrap...
>
That would be because the inner is copper plated steel rather than solid
>
> They get permission to take it to the scrappie so I hear where the price
> isn't as high as domestic cable scrap...
>
copper ...
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Terry
tony sayer
Sep 6, 2012, 3:29:48 PM9/6/12
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In article <MPG.2ab2b74bc...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Terry Casey <k.t...@example.invalid> scribeth thus
Which at RF is OK, wonder why they didn't do this for domestic grade
cabling?..
Suppose it Migh be a shade too rigid?..
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Tony Sayer
Terry Casey <k.t...@example.invalid> scribeth thus
cabling?..
Suppose it Migh be a shade too rigid?..
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