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Bill Wright

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Dec 16, 2015, 7:50:59 AM12/16/15
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Evan Davies interviewed Ann Coulter to discuss Donald Trump. He just
wanted to put her through the mill about a joke she made years ago. Then
he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing his
personal agenda. Fortunately she got the better of him and managed to
get her points across. It was hilarious really. It's about half way
through the programme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06sbk92/newsnight-15122015

I'd complain to the BBC but it's a total waste of time.

Bill

Andy Burns

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Dec 16, 2015, 7:54:13 AM12/16/15
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Bill Wright wrote:

> I'd complain to the BBC but it's a total waste of time.

And complaining here isn't?



Brian-Gaff

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Yes for once I agree with you. This 'presenter' seems to always go in with a
pre conceived idea and is determined to prove himself right, well I never
saw this one so good on the interviewee for playing him at his own game.
Do these people think nobody notices?
There is a guy on ch 4 news sometimes who irritates me as he never lets
anyone finish answering a deliberately loaded question.
Why do they have to be so aggressive about it.
Brian

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Brian-Gaff

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Makes you feel better though. Its a public service....

Incidentally the lack of research and knowledge about things to do with
space travel showed big and bright on all the channels coverage of the
British astronaut yesterday. made me cringe. they should have left it to the
experts.
Brian

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Peter Duncanson

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:51:11 +0000, Bill Wright <wrights...@f2s.com>
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What are you complaining about Bill? You seem to have enjoyed it.

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Brian-Gaff

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Dec 16, 2015, 8:24:27 AM12/16/15
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Well some of these presenters are certainly no Robin Day are they. they
bluster about and sometimes I shout at the set and say ask them about this
or that but they are so blinkered they let that slide and create issues on
tother stuff that really does not matter. The good interviewer thinks on
their feet and tries to look for problems, but most of the current crop are
kind of robots looking to make their own points and not really listening
Brian

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Dec 16, 2015, 8:46:59 AM12/16/15
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In article <n4rni9$ago$1...@dont-email.me>,
Brian-Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes for once I agree with you. This 'presenter' seems to always go in
> with a pre conceived idea and is determined to prove himself right, well
> I never saw this one so good on the interviewee for playing him at his
> own game. Do these people think nobody notices? There is a guy on ch 4
> news sometimes who irritates me as he never lets anyone finish
> answering a deliberately loaded question.
> Why do they have to be so aggressive about it.

I'd suggest you actually check out Newsnight. Evan Davies is the least
aggressive presenter on it.

And if she'd been left unchecked, she'd just have given the usual party
political broadcast.

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Bill Wright

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Dec 16, 2015, 8:54:11 AM12/16/15
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Don't you ever feel like having a moan to your friends?

Bill

Adrian

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Dec 16, 2015, 8:56:57 AM12/16/15
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:44:31 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> And if she'd been left unchecked, she'd just have given the usual party
> political broadcast.

TBF, Ann Coulter is a bit dangerously liberal for Bill.

Bill Wright

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Dec 16, 2015, 8:57:19 AM12/16/15
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Wouldn't you complain if you'd paid for sex and got the clap?


Bill

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 13:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> I'd suggest you actually check out Newsnight. Evan Davies is the least
> aggressive presenter on it.

He's passive-aggressive. That's because he's a cowardy custard.

Bill

Norman Rowing

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Dec 16, 2015, 9:04:14 AM12/16/15
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On 16/12/2015 13:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <n4rni9$ago$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Brian-Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes for once I agree with you. This 'presenter' seems to always go in
>> with a pre conceived idea and is determined to prove himself right, well
>> I never saw this one so good on the interviewee for playing him at his
>> own game. Do these people think nobody notices? There is a guy on ch 4
>> news sometimes who irritates me as he never lets anyone finish
>> answering a deliberately loaded question.
>> Why do they have to be so aggressive about it.
>
> I'd suggest you actually check out Newsnight.

RT is a far better channel (135 Freeview)

Roderick Stewart

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Dec 16, 2015, 9:25:42 AM12/16/15
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:51:11 +0000, Bill Wright
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Just watched this. My impression is that the lady comes out of it with
more dignity than the interviewer, cleverly fending off his determined
attempts to put his own point regardless of relevant facts. YMMV.

Rod.

stuart noble

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Dec 16, 2015, 12:37:37 PM12/16/15
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He certainly looks bloody stupid in those skinny suits he wears. But you
have to look odd, or have a speech impediment, to be on the BBC

Brian Gaff

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I thought woss was now on the itv?
The other brother, paul is still on the beeb though and to my mind seems a
little less full of himself.
Brian

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Brian Gaff

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His wig should have been used to gag him. Is he really as thick as he seems?
Brian

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> I love Ann Coulter's hair on that programme. It more than makes up for
> Donald Trump's wig.
>
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charles

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Dec 16, 2015, 1:04:10 PM12/16/15
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In article <161220151801308904%timst...@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <MPG.30dbb5caa...@127.0.0.1>, Jonno <m...@privacy.nob>
> wrote:

> >Brian-Gaff scribbled
> >
> >> Well some of these presenters are certainly no Robin Day are they.
> >> they bluster about and sometimes I shout at the set and say ask them
> >> about this or that but they are so blinkered they let that slide and
> >> create issues on tother stuff that really does not matter. The good
> >> interviewer thinks on their feet and tries to look for problems, but
> >> most of the current crop are kind of robots looking to make their own
> >> points and not really listening

> >That would be Sir Robin Day, knighted for not brown-nosing politicians.
> >
> >"He became known in British broadcasting as 'the Grand Inquisitor' for
> >his abrasive interviewing of politicians, a style out of keeping with
> >the British media's culture of deference to authority that prevailed
> >during the early days of his career."
> >
> >All politicians know what they're in for when they go on newsnight.
> >They train beforehand.

> There's a big difference between point-scoring and personal-ego-inflating
> as carried out by too many presenters, and teasing out what the
> politician actually thinks and/or wants to do. This may include having a
> go at any contradictions in their stated positions, especially if there
> are attempts to present these as no contradiction at all.

> I expect Robin Day was good at all of this without bigging himself up,
> unlike too many of the current shower such as Paxo, Davies, John
> Humphreys etc etc.

he ddin't need to "big himself up". He was big in the first place - well
over 6ft.

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F Murtz

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Dec 16, 2015, 1:16:30 PM12/16/15
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To watch this from here I would have to use VPN, pretend I was in UK
give a UK postcode and put up with constant buffering.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Dec 16, 2015, 1:21:34 PM12/16/15
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In article <n4rmne$q8h$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Bill Wright <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote:
> Evan Davies interviewed Ann Coulter to discuss Donald Trump. He just
> wanted to put her through the mill about a joke she made years ago.

He seemed to be more interested in the comments made by Trump about how
much he fancied his own daughter. Which she then said was merely a joke.
But given it's a 'joke' he's made several times, was worth asking about.
As it shows just what sort of a man he is.

> Then
> he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing his
> personal agenda.

And you'd have rather she was allowed to make the usual party political
broadcast unchecked. Since you obviously agree with the Trump person.

> Fortunately she got the better of him and managed to
> get her points across. It was hilarious really. It's about half way
> through the programme.

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06sbk92/newsnight-15122015

> I'd complain to the BBC but it's a total waste of time.

She wouldn't have got away with it with other Newsnight presenters. Davis
is too gentle with prats like this.

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Adrian

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Dec 16, 2015, 1:42:43 PM12/16/15
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:17:55 +0000, Jonno wrote:

> Bill Wright scribbled
> You know anything about his woman? I suggest you look her up on Wiki.
>
> Coulter has described herself as a polemicist who likes to "stir up the
> pot", and does not "pretend to be impartial or balanced, as broadcasters
> do", drawing criticism from the left, and sometimes from the right.

Exactly.

So, given the choice between her defending Trump and a BBC presenter who
happens to be homosexual, Bill's reaction is... predictable.

Richard

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>On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:44:31 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
><da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <n4rni9$ago$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Brian-Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Yes for once I agree with you. This 'presenter' seems to always go in
>>> with a pre conceived idea and is determined to prove himself right, well
>>> I never saw this one so good on the interviewee for playing him at his
>>> own game. Do these people think nobody notices? There is a guy on ch 4
>>> news sometimes who irritates me as he never lets anyone finish
>>> answering a deliberately loaded question.
>>> Why do they have to be so aggressive about it.
>>
>>I'd suggest you actually check out Newsnight. Evan Davies is the least
>>aggressive presenter on it.
>>
>>And if she'd been left unchecked, she'd just have given the usual party
>>political broadcast.
>
>+1
>
>Those who are homophobic and right wing tend not to like Evan Davies.

That's odd. I'm homophobic and right wing - I actually prefer Evan Davies to
some of the other left wing and religious garb wearing news people on the
BBC and Channel 4.
YMMV

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 13:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <n4rmne$q8h$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Bill Wright <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote:
>> Evan Davies interviewed Ann Coulter to discuss Donald Trump. He just
>> wanted to put her through the mill about a joke she made years ago.
>
> He seemed to be more interested in the comments made by Trump about how
> much he fancied his own daughter. Which she then said was merely a joke.
> But given it's a 'joke' he's made several times, was worth asking about.
> As it shows just what sort of a man he is.

I often joke about having attractive daughters. It's what old men with
attractive daughters do, especially those unconfined by leftist
political correctness. It's a form of boasting. If Trump really did have
sexual feelings about his daughter he'd keep quiet about it, wouldn't he?

>
>> Then
>> he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing his
>> personal agenda.
>
> And you'd have rather she was allowed to make the usual party political
> broadcast unchecked.

No I'd rather Davies had questioned her about Trump's policies, and
exposed him for what he is, which is a bully.

When you say the usual party political broadcast, i suppose you mean
when Davies interviews someone from the left.

Since you obviously agree with the Trump person.

I don't.

Bill

Bill Wright

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Dec 16, 2015, 3:02:23 PM12/16/15
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Never heard of her before, but a quick google shows she a splendid woman.

Bill

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 14:25, Roderick Stewart wrote:

>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06sbk92/newsnight-15122015

>
> Just watched this. My impression is that the lady comes out of it with
> more dignity than the interviewer, cleverly fending off his determined
> attempts to put his own point regardless of relevant facts. YMMV.

Serve him right.

Bill

Mark Carver

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On 16/12/2015 18:05, charles wrote:

> he [Robin Day] ddin't need to "big himself up". He was big in the first place - well
> over 6ft.

Yes, he was we both ran for the same taxi once in Westminster, I was
taken aback when I realised who it was.



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Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 15:13, Martin wrote:

> Those who are homophobic and right wing tend not to like Evan Davies.
>

You're a master of generalisation. I'm possibly a bit right wing --
well that's what some people say -- but I'm not homophobic. In fact I
like homosexuals very much, and I'd be one except that I've never been
all that keen on pushing my knob up another man's bum, and I do rather
like pushing it up women's cunts. It's a pity about that that really,
because I do often throw girly fits and I'm really very good at matching
colours and dancing. It's just that one thing you see. A cruel trick of
nature that's made me live my life in a the shadows as a closet
heterosexual. Ah well...

Bill

Mizter T

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She's a fucking moron.

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 17:24, pamela wrote:

> I love Ann Coulter's hair on that programme. It more than makes up for
> Donald Trump's wig.
>

It's lovely isn't it? I'm jealous.

Bill

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 17:37, stuart noble wrote:

> He certainly looks bloody stupid in those skinny suits he wears. But you
> have to look odd, or have a speech impediment, to be on the BBC

I've heard he's got a bolt through his knob.

Bill

Bill Wright

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Well just take my word for it then and shurrup.

Bill

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 18:42, Adrian wrote:

> So, given the choice between her defending Trump and a BBC presenter who
> happens to be homosexual, Bill's reaction is... predictable.
>
What did I say about his sexuality? Nowt. So bugger off.

Bill

Andy Burns

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Dec 16, 2015, 3:41:35 PM12/16/15
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Bill Wright wrote:

> Adrian wrote:
>
>> Ann Coulter is a bit dangerously liberal for Bill.
>
> Never heard of her before, but a quick google shows she a splendid woman.

For a few seconds I actually thought she was wearing swastika ear-rings.

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 20:22, Mizter T wrote:

>>> TBF, Ann Coulter is a bit dangerously liberal for Bill.
>>>
>>
>> Never heard of her before, but a quick google shows she a splendid woman.
>>
>> Bill
>
> She's a fucking moron.

Reading up on her, it appears that she's rather clever.

Bill

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I keep getting this dream of looking back from the future and saying 'I knew
this would happen', surprised nobody could see it at the time.

Bill Wright

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On 16/12/2015 20:43, Kinnell wrote:

> I keep getting this dream of looking back from the future and saying 'I
> knew this would happen', surprised nobody could see it at the time.

I drempt that I was naked at the bottom of a huge vat of dry chicken
food (layers' pellets actually). I couldn't open my eyes and I had to
breathe through my teeth so I didn't suck the pellets in. I was worried
about the dust getting into my lungs though. I tried to stand up but it
was really hard to move, so in the end I gave up and just waited to die.
I must say I've had better dreams.

Bill

Roderick Stewart

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:00:32 +0000, Bill Wright
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>> He seemed to be more interested in the comments made by Trump about how
>> much he fancied his own daughter. Which she then said was merely a joke.
>> But given it's a 'joke' he's made several times, was worth asking about.
>> As it shows just what sort of a man he is.
>
>I often joke about having attractive daughters. It's what old men with
>attractive daughters do, especially those unconfined by leftist
>political correctness. It's a form of boasting. If Trump really did have
>sexual feelings about his daughter he'd keep quiet about it, wouldn't he?

I've got two beautiful daughters and seven beautiful granddaughters,
and yes, it's boasting, even when it's true.

I think Mr Trump's fault in this instance is not having a particularly
skillful way with words, which is an unfortunate trait in a
politician. It doesn't make him evil, just inept. He just says what he
thinks without any attempt at editing for tact. I can't help being
reminded of the Viz character Roger Mellie ("the man on the telly").

Rod.

Rod Speed

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Roderick Stewart

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:24:10 GMT, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> Evan Davies interviewed Ann Coulter to discuss Donald Trump. He just
>> wanted to put her through the mill about a joke she made years ago. Then
>> he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing his
>> personal agenda. Fortunately she got the better of him and managed to
>> get her points across. It was hilarious really. It's about half way
>> through the programme.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06sbk92/newsnight-15122015
>>
>> I'd complain to the BBC but it's a total waste of time.
>>
>> Bill
>
>I love Ann Coulter's hair on that programme. It more than makes up for
>Donald Trump's wig.

It hasn't got anything like the same comedy value though.

Rod.

stuart noble

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Ok, Bill, pictures of your daughters please. I need cheering up

Scion

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Dec 17, 2015, 4:24:00 AM12/17/15
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Tim Streater put finger to keyboard:

<snip>

> There's a big difference between point-scoring and
> personal-ego-inflating as carried out by too many presenters, and
> teasing out what the politician actually thinks and/or wants to do. This
> may include having a go at any contradictions in their stated positions,
> especially if there are attempts to present these as no contradiction at
> all.
>
> I expect Robin Day was good at all of this without bigging himself up,
> unlike too many of the current shower such as Paxo, Davies, John
> Humphreys etc etc.

Paxo could have been very good but his habit of talking over the
interviewee was annoying. Humphreys is OK.

Adrian

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Dec 17, 2015, 4:37:00 AM12/17/15
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:31:06 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

>> So, given the choice between her defending Trump and a BBC presenter
>> who happens to be homosexual, Bill's reaction is... predictable.

> What did I say about his sexuality? Nowt. So bugger off.

Well, apart from...
>>> Then he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing
>>> his personal agenda.

Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.

Yes, it is that simple. Unless, of course, it's a nice handy excuse for a
bit of bigotry and homophobia.

Roderick Stewart

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:36:58 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
<tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
>gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
>keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.

Quite. My only objection is to the use of the word "marriage" because
it already has a meaning that has been understood for centuries, but
apart from that, how other people choose to conduct their personal
relationships is their own business, and none of mine.

Rod.

Max Demian

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:36:58 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
<tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the
thought of
> gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you.
Otherwise,
> keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.

Incest is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of it,
don't shag your sister.

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Ian Jackson

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In message <9tv27b1n5212o50k2...@4ax.com>, Martin
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>On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:04:14 +0000, Norman Rowing <gee...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>On 16/12/2015 13:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>> In article <n4rni9$ago$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Brian-Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Yes for once I agree with you. This 'presenter' seems to always go in
>>>> with a pre conceived idea and is determined to prove himself right, well
>>>> I never saw this one so good on the interviewee for playing him at his
>>>> own game. Do these people think nobody notices? There is a guy on ch 4
>>>> news sometimes who irritates me as he never lets anyone finish
>>>> answering a deliberately loaded question.
>>>> Why do they have to be so aggressive about it.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest you actually check out Newsnight.
>>
>>RT is a far better channel (135 Freeview)
>
>For some subjects. It is hardly unbiased.

It use to present a different, wider view on things - until Crimea and
Ukraine. These days, I wouldn't trust a word it says.
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ne...@address.invalid

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Dec 17, 2015, 6:11:30 AM12/17/15
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Pity about the dark roots showing through though.

The Natural Philosopher

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Dec 17, 2015, 7:52:27 AM12/17/15
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On 17/12/15 09:36, Adrian wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:31:06 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:
>
>>> So, given the choice between her defending Trump and a BBC presenter
>>> who happens to be homosexual, Bill's reaction is... predictable.
>
>> What did I say about his sexuality? Nowt. So bugger off.
>
> Well, apart from...
>>>> Then he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing
>>>> his personal agenda.
>
> Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
> gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
> keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.
>
Gay marriage is quite simple. If you want a Christian marriage,. marry a
person of the opposite sex, otherwise keep the fuck your nose out of
other poeples religion.


> Yes, it is that simple. Unless, of course, it's a nice handy excuse for a
> bit of bigotry and homophobia.
>

Yes, of yours it is that simple. Unless, of course, it's a nice handy
excuse for a bit of bigotry and exhibitionism.

--
the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

Max Demian

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We already had "civil partnerships" (which could perhaps have been
extended to heterosexual relationships - rather like the mythical
"common law marriage"). I'm not sure why the extension of the age old
word "marriage" to same sex relationships was considered to be so
important. Perhaps the elite wanted to be thought to be "modern" and
"inclusive".

--
Max Demian

Bill Wright

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On 17/12/2015 09:36, Adrian wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:31:06 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:
>
>>> So, given the choice between her defending Trump and a BBC presenter
>>> who happens to be homosexual, Bill's reaction is... predictable.
>
>> What did I say about his sexuality? Nowt. So bugger off.
>
> Well, apart from...
>>>> Then he dragged gay marriage into it! The whole thing was him pushing
>>>> his personal agenda.

That doesn't say anything about his sexuality. My personal agenda
includes opposition to FGM but I don't have a clitoris to maim. You make
the mistake of thinking people only stick up for things that affect them
personally. Maybe that's you, but it isn't me.

>
> Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
> gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
> keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.
>
> Yes, it is that simple. Unless, of course, it's a nice handy excuse for a
> bit of bigotry and homophobia.
>
Undoubtedly those who find the thought of homosexuality disturbing will
probably oppose gay marriage, but what's that got to do with me? I'm
completely in favour of gay marriage. I can't see any rational objection
to it.

Bill

Bill Wright

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I don't think widening the use of the word marriage to include same sex
relationships in any way diminishes the institution as it stands for
hetero couples. After all, a gay marriage is just as likely to be based
on love; just as likely to be valid, and long-lasting.

Bill

Bill Wright

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Dec 17, 2015, 10:53:18 AM12/17/15
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Blimey, is that what incest is? I'd better stop it.

Bill

Bill Wright

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Dec 17, 2015, 10:57:49 AM12/17/15
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On 17/12/2015 11:10, Martin wrote:

>> Coulter has described herself as a polemicist who likes to "stir up the
>> pot", and does not "pretend to be impartial or balanced, as broadcasters
>> do", drawing criticism from the left, and sometimes from the right.
>
> Sounds like the woman of Bill's dreams :-)
>
She's a bit too keen ont' sound of her own voice for my liking.

Bill

The Natural Philosopher

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Dec 17, 2015, 11:02:07 AM12/17/15
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And I cant see any rational reason for it, either.

Let's face it, its not about reason, its all about emotion, on both sides.

> Bill

Indy Jess John

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Dec 17, 2015, 11:43:00 AM12/17/15
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On 17/12/2015 15:52, Bill Wright wrote:
> On 17/12/2015 09:58, Roderick Stewart wrote:

>> My only objection is to the use of the word "marriage" because
>> it already has a meaning that has been understood for centuries, but
>> apart from that, how other people choose to conduct their personal
>> relationships is their own business, and none of mine.
>
> I don't think widening the use of the word marriage to include same sex
> relationships in any way diminishes the institution as it stands for
> hetero couples.

I think that those who regard marriage as a religious ceremony rather
than just a legal union would have difficulty with that point of view.

That distinction caused all sorts of exceptions and exclusions in the
legislation that could have been avoided if civil partnerships were
extended to all unions whether same sex or hetero, and became the
default for Registry Office and every other non-religious location,
leaving marriage to be limited to religious unions and yet to provide
the same civil partnership register entry.

That would leave those who believe in a Sky Pilot comfortable within the
definition in their religious texts and everybody else treated equally.

Jim

F

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On 16/12/2015 18:01, Tim Streater wrote:

> I expect Robin Day was good at all of this without bigging himself up,
> unlike too many of the current shower such as Paxo, Davies, John
> Humphreys etc etc.

Eddie Mair is excellent, head and shoulders above the lot of them. And I
rate John Humphreys.

--
F



Ian Jackson

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In message <171220151934225151%timst...@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timst...@greenbee.net> writes
>In article <a9mdnaEcKOd7Y-_L...@brightview.co.uk>,
>He interrupts too much.

Nowhere near as bad as Nick Ferrari, on LBC. When he get a bee in his
bonnet that he is right, sometimes his phone-in discussion 'exchanges'
are un-listenable-to.
>

--
Ian

F

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On 17/12/2015 19:34, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <a9mdnaEcKOd7Y-_L...@brightview.co.uk>,
> <news@nowhere> wrote:
>
> He interrupts too much.

If the answer he's getting is one to a different question then he's
entitled to interrupt to point out the error.

Oh, and I should have included Andrew Neil at the very top of my list.
Even better than Eddie Mair.

--
F



F

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On 18/12/2015 11:10, Tim Streater wrote:
> Anyone follow that sequence on BBCQT the other evening:
>
> Jacob Rees-Mogg: I lived near Slough for a while and didn't find the
> plane noise too bad.
>
> Dimbleby: Is that when you were at school at Eton <cue laughter from
> audience>
>
> J R-M: Yes, when I was at school with your son <cue much more audience
> hilarity>

My highlight of the evening!

And I always enjoy listening to Jacob-Rees Mogg. Doesn't matter if you
share his politics, he's straight forward in saying what he believes and
is amusing too. Him and Andrew Neil in 'conversation' is well worth a
watch anytime they're on.

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F



Ian

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In message <JyBcy.12143$JF6....@fx39.am4>, Indy Jess John
<jimw...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> writes
It seems totally absurd to me that there is any relationship at all
between lawmaking and superstition.

It horrifies me to think that someone who believes stuff like this,

<http://news.sky.com/story/1608285/mother-teresa-to-be-saint-as-miracle-
approved>

could be allowed to tell people how to live.
--
Ian

Bill Wright

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On 18/12/2015 11:10, Tim Streater wrote:
> Anyone follow that sequence on BBCQT the other evening:
>
> Jacob Rees-Mogg: I lived near Slough for a while and didn't find the
> plane noise too bad.
>
> Dimbleby: Is that when you were at school at Eton <cue laughter from
> audience>
>
> J R-M: Yes, when I was at school with your son <cue much more audience
> hilarity>
>

Lovely! Teach the old hypocrite a lesson! Dimbo hides his internal Tory
very well so he can keep working for the leftist Beeb. This exchange let
him out a foot. His face!


Bill

Bill Wright

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On 18/12/2015 23:48, pamela wrote:

> By the way, I've just been watching "Flesh and Bone" on Amazon Instant
> Video which has a subplot showing incest between the heroine and her
> brother. Rather tacky and, like the homosexual sex scenes, wholly
> gratuitous. All probably done for shock value and audience figures.
>

You can't sell anything unless it has sex in it these days. Recently I
had to do this to sell an article:

There are computer programs that claim to predict the directional
qualities of an aerial, but the real life way is to take actual signal
measurements and make a polar response diagram, or PRD. Manufacturers
normally use an RF anechoic chamber with totally RF-absorbent walls, so
there are no reflections to confuse the results. These rooms are also
soundproof, and the door can be locked from the inside.

I knew Janet found me attractive, although as a professional I ignored
it, of course, or at least I tried to. We'd been working together on
antenna development for several weeks, and I'd read the signs; those
little almost subliminal glances and gestures, the way she let our heads
touch when we were scrutinising the analyser screen. So when we went
into the chamber, me carrying the new model of our UHF wideband product
and she carrying her laptop, she had an air of excitement that didn't, i
suspected, entirely result from our hopes that the modifications we'd
made to the antenna (we'd altered the element spacing a little and added
a new feeder connection box) would be successful. Although of course we
were pretty excited about that as well. We took signal measurements at
2 degree intervals as we rotated the aerial through a full circle.
Because there are no significant reflections in the chamber the signal
levels do not represent whatever signal is coming from the direction the
aerial is pointing; they represent the signal the aerial is picking up
direct from the transmitter — even though it is not aligned on the said
transmitter. It's all jolly interesting.

As we reached the 340 degree measurement, me working the equipment and
Janet logging the data, she suddenly murmured, "It's very hot in here
isn't it?" I nodded and said, "12.5dB. I say, these figures are rather
promising Janet. I'm rather pleased!"

Janet pulled her sweater over her head, and I noticed that she was
wearing only a bra underneath. She looked at me impishly and said, "You
don't mind do you?"

"Of course not!" I laughed. "I'm a man of the world you know!"

"Oh I'm so glad you're a man of the world!" There was something rather
odd in the way she said it. In retrospect I should have picked up on this.

Wishing to change the subject I said, "When we transfer the resulting
table of about 180 measurements to a concentric chart we'll see at a
glance the details of the new product's directivity."

"I can do it right now!" breathed Janet, jiggling her mouse about.
"There you are, take a look!" I moved across and together we scrutinised
the polar response diagram on her screen.

"Good heavens!" I exclaimed.

"Yes..." Janet whispered. "What do you think to that, big boy?" The
polar response diagram was quite unlike any I had ever seen before. The
main forward lobe was like a tower with a bell-shaped end. At each side
of it were two smaller, rounded lobes.

"Is that. . . the E Plane or the H Plane?" I gasped. "Or did you. . .
did you just draw it freehand?"

"Oh, come here you daft bugger!" laughed Janet, as she pulled me onto
the bed which was always kept in the anechoic chamber in case anyone
felt tired, and undid my snake belt, and

(cont p92)

Bill

stuart noble

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Dec 19, 2015, 3:11:55 AM12/19/15
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A snake belt to keep the trouser snake in check?

Indy Jess John

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I don't think I have seen a snake belt since 1960

F

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On 19/12/2015 17:59, pamela wrote:
> On 04:37 19 Dec 2015, Bill Wright wrote:

>> "Oh, come here you daft bugger!" laughed Janet, as she pulled me onto
>> the bed which was always kept in the anechoic chamber in case anyone
>> felt tired, and undid my snake belt, and
>>
>> (cont p92)
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> Gimme page 92! :-)
>
And 93, 94, 95...

--
F


Bill Wright

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On 19/12/2015 17:59, pamela wrote:

>> "Oh, come here you daft bugger!" laughed Janet, as she pulled me onto
>> the bed which was always kept in the anechoic chamber in case anyone
>> felt tired, and undid my snake belt, and
>>
>> (cont p92)
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> Gimme page 92! :-)
>

Oh pamela! I feel that something is drawing us together!

Bill

Bill Wright

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On 19/12/2015 23:00, pamela wrote:
> Shhhhh, don't tell everyone.
>
> By the way, did I leave one of my earrings in your bedroom last week?
>

Oh were they yours? I was going to send a mass email. By the way have
you had any unusual itching just lately?

Bill

Anonymous

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Roderick Stewart <rj...@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:36:58 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
> <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
>> gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
>> keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.
>
> Quite. My only objection is to the use of the word "marriage" because
> it already has a meaning that has been understood for centuries,

Nope. The meaning of the word has changed beyond recognition over the
centuries.
Gay marriage is a very minor amendment by comparison.

> apart from that, how other people choose to conduct their personal
> relationships is their own business, and none of mine.

Quite so.

--
Bill Findlay



Roderick Stewart

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On 20 Dec 2015 00:29:59 GMT, Anonymous <no_e...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>>> Gay marriage is a very simple subject. If you don't like the thought of
>>> gay marriage, don't marry somebody of the same gender as you. Otherwise,
>>> keep the fuck your nose out of other people's relationships.
>>
>> Quite. My only objection is to the use of the word "marriage" because
>> it already has a meaning that has been understood for centuries,
>
>Nope. The meaning of the word has changed beyond recognition over the
>centuries.
>Gay marriage is a very minor amendment by comparison.

Every wedding I've ever been to has included the words "Marriage is
the union of one man and one woman", or something to that effect. The
essence of it doesn't seem to have changed at all until quite recently
with the phenomenon that goes, at least colloquially, by the term "gay
marriage". I wonder if it is just a colloquialism, or something
concise enough for a newspaper headline, or has the meaning of the
word "marriage" actually been legally changed. Is it now illegal to
utter the old declaration that it must apply to one man and one woman?
If so, it would be understandable if people who have been married for
many years had objections to the significance of their own
relationship effectively being redefined by others.

Rod.

Bill Wright

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On 20/12/2015 02:06, pamela wrote:

>> Oh were they yours? I was going to send a mass email. By the way have
>> you had any unusual itching just lately?
>>
>> Bill
>
> No itching. Seems I didn't catch what you have. See a doctor.
>

I caught it off the doctor. I thought the treatment was a bit unusual...

Bill

David Livingstone

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In message <WrOdnWXmAoF2T-7L...@brightview.co.uk>, F
<news@nowhere.?.invalid> writes

>Oh, and I should have included Andrew Neil at the very top of my list.


Spot on with his rant on 'This Week' about Isis after Paris

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34877683
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David
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