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Maurice
Jul 28, 2016, 9:54:27 AM7/28/16
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Just done a Freeview auto-tune here near Lymington, Hants, and was
suprised to find that BBC1 was no longer 101, but 1. (BBC2= 2, etc).
("101 Not available...")
Yet the Radio Rimes shows the former 101, 102,etc.
Anyone knnow what's going on?
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suprised to find that BBC1 was no longer 101, but 1. (BBC2= 2, etc).
("101 Not available...")
Yet the Radio Rimes shows the former 101, 102,etc.
Anyone knnow what's going on?
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Andy Burns
Jul 28, 2016, 10:08:01 AM7/28/16
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Maurice wrote:
> Just done a Freeview auto-tune here near Lymington, Hants, and was
> suprised to find that BBC1 was no longer 101, but 1. (BBC2= 2, etc).
>
> ("101 Not available...")
Should have been (before and after retune)
> Just done a Freeview auto-tune here near Lymington, Hants, and was
> suprised to find that BBC1 was no longer 101, but 1. (BBC2= 2, etc).
>
> ("101 Not available...")
1 = BBC1 SD
2 = BBC2 SD
101= BBC1 HD
102= BBC2 HD
etc
> Yet the Radio Rimes shows the former 101, 102,etc.
> Anyone knnow what's going on?
a distant transmitter first ...
David
Jul 28, 2016, 11:40:34 AM7/28/16
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tuner.
Our older plasma set (a Toshiba which occupies a strange middle ground
between 720p and 1080p and fiddles stuff to get an HDish picture) only has
an SD tuner so I have seen this effect as well.
Cheers
Dave R
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Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box
Maurice
Jul 29, 2016, 7:08:01 AM7/29/16
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
(Our normal use is Humax with twin HD tuners, but use the TV's tuner if
we
happen to be recording 2 channels simultaneously on the Humax and want to
watch a 3rd channel.)
Mark Carver
Jul 29, 2016, 8:08:12 AM7/29/16
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On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>
> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>
> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
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Peter Duncanson
Jul 29, 2016, 8:36:29 AM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver
<invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>
>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>
>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>
>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
Not now.
<invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>
>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>
>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>
>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
Freesat:
101 BBC One HD
102 BBC Two (SD)
103 ITV (SD)
104 Channel 4 (SD)
105 Channel 5 HD
106 BBC Two HD
107 BBC Four HD
108 BBC One (SD)
110 BBC Four (SD)
111 ITV HD
(I've omitted the regional identifiers from those channel names.)
--
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(in uk.tech.digital-tv)
Mark Carver
Jul 29, 2016, 9:43:00 AM7/29/16
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On 29/07/2016 14:24, Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>
>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>
>> Not now.
>
> oh yes it is :-)
It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
In England, where only the BBC 1 HD England version is available, then
the HD version is 106, the regional SD version is 101
Same for C5 HD nationwide, and you can no longer see the SD version if
you have an HD box
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>
>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>
>> Not now.
>
>
>>
>> Freesat:
>> 101 BBC One HD
>
> 101 is BBC 1 SD
>>
>> Freesat:
>> 101 BBC One HD
>
It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
In England, where only the BBC 1 HD England version is available, then
the HD version is 106, the regional SD version is 101
Same for C5 HD nationwide, and you can no longer see the SD version if
you have an HD box
Peter Duncanson
Jul 29, 2016, 9:45:57 AM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:24:31 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver
>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>>>
>>>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>>>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>>>
>>>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>
>>>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>
>>Not now.
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver
>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>>>
>>>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>>>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>>>
>>>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>
>>>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>
>>Not now.
>
>oh yes it is :-)
>
I copied this channel list off the TV screen. The region is Northern
>
Ireland.
I've just changed the postcode on my Freesat tuner to a Manchester
postcode and rescanned. That gives what you describe.
Interesting.
>>
>>Freesat:
>>101 BBC One HD
>
>101 is BBC 1 SD
>
>>102 BBC Two (SD)
>
>
>102 is BBC2 HD
>
>http://www.freesat.co.uk/tvguide
>
>>103 ITV (SD)
>>104 Channel 4 (SD)
>>105 Channel 5 HD
>>106 BBC Two HD
>>107 BBC Four HD
>>108 BBC One (SD)
>
>108 is BBC One HD
>>103 ITV (SD)
>>104 Channel 4 (SD)
>>105 Channel 5 HD
>>106 BBC Two HD
>>107 BBC Four HD
>>108 BBC One (SD)
>
Peter Duncanson
Jul 29, 2016, 10:04:01 AM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:42:55 +0100, Mark Carver
<invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>On 29/07/2016 14:24, Martin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>
>>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>
>>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>
>>> Not now.
>>
>> oh yes it is :-)
>>
>>>
>>> Freesat:
>>> 101 BBC One HD
>>
>> 101 is BBC 1 SD
>
>It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
>
>In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
>version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
>on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
>
In NI, BBC Two NI (SD) has regional opt-outs, BBC Two HD doesn't.
<invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>On 29/07/2016 14:24, Martin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>
>>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>
>>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>
>>> Not now.
>>
>> oh yes it is :-)
>>
>>>
>>> Freesat:
>>> 101 BBC One HD
>>
>> 101 is BBC 1 SD
>
>It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
>
>In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
>version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
>on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
>
>In England, where only the BBC 1 HD England version is available, then
>the HD version is 106, the regional SD version is 101
>
>Same for C5 HD nationwide, and you can no longer see the SD version if
>you have an HD box
usual choice of HD or SD, the SD version is on C5+1, one hour later than
the HD.
Maurice
Jul 29, 2016, 1:23:38 PM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
Uh?
> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
Maurice
Jul 29, 2016, 1:27:33 PM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:13:39 +0200, Martin wrote:
> If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as the
one
> you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which channels are
on
what muxes (muxi?)!!
> If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as the
one
> you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which channels are
on
what muxes (muxi?)!!
Max Demian
Jul 29, 2016, 2:29:45 PM7/29/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:27:32 -0000 (UTC), Maurice
<mau...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:13:39 +0200, Martin wrote:
> > If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as
the
> one
> > you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
> I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which
channels are
> on
> what muxes (muxi?)!!
http://www.terrestrialtv.co.uk/
<mau...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:13:39 +0200, Martin wrote:
> > If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as
the
> one
> > you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
> I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which
channels are
> on
> what muxes (muxi?)!!
--
Max Demian
Peter Duncanson
Jul 30, 2016, 6:20:11 AM7/30/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:20:43 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:03:35 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
Umm... C5 HD wasn't available on Freesat until May this year.
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:03:35 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:42:55 +0100, Mark Carver
>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29/07/2016 14:24, Martin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>>
>>>>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not now.
>>>>
>>>> oh yes it is :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Freesat:
>>>>> 101 BBC One HD
>>>>
>>>> 101 is BBC 1 SD
>>>
>>>It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
>>>
>>>In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
>>>version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
>>>on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
>>>
>>In NI, BBC Two NI (SD) has regional opt-outs, BBC Two HD doesn't.
>>
>>>In England, where only the BBC 1 HD England version is available, then
>>>the HD version is 106, the regional SD version is 101
>>>
>>>Same for C5 HD nationwide, and you can no longer see the SD version if
>>>you have an HD box
>>
>>If you try to record a C5 program on a Humax Freesat box it gives the
>>usual choice of HD or SD, the SD version is on C5+1, one hour later than
>>the HD.
>
>After four years of owning one I know that :-)
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:42:55 +0100, Mark Carver
>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29/07/2016 14:24, Martin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>>
>>>>>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not now.
>>>>
>>>> oh yes it is :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Freesat:
>>>>> 101 BBC One HD
>>>>
>>>> 101 is BBC 1 SD
>>>
>>>It's mapped according to the receiver, and location.
>>>
>>>In Wales, Scotland, and NI where BBC 1 HD is the same 'regional'
>>>version as BBC 1 SD, then on HD boxes the HD version appears on 101, and
>>>on SD boxes the SD version appears on 101.
>>>
>>In NI, BBC Two NI (SD) has regional opt-outs, BBC Two HD doesn't.
>>
>>>In England, where only the BBC 1 HD England version is available, then
>>>the HD version is 106, the regional SD version is 101
>>>
>>>Same for C5 HD nationwide, and you can no longer see the SD version if
>>>you have an HD box
>>
>>If you try to record a C5 program on a Humax Freesat box it gives the
>>usual choice of HD or SD, the SD version is on C5+1, one hour later than
>>the HD.
>
Umm... C5 HD wasn't available on Freesat until May this year.
Peter Duncanson
Jul 30, 2016, 6:21:05 AM7/30/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:25:47 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:45:31 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>
I realised that. I didn't think through it in detail.
>Mark explained this afternoon.
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:45:31 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:24:31 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver
>>>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>>>>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>>>>>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>>>>>
>>>>>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>>
>>>>Not now.
>>>
>>>oh yes it is :-)
>>>
>>I copied this channel list off the TV screen. The region is Northern
>>Ireland.
>>I've just changed the postcode on my Freesat tuner to a Manchester
>>postcode and rescanned. That gives what you describe.
>>Interesting.
>
>It varies by country. The post code determines this.
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:24:31 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver
>>>><invalid...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 29/07/2016 12:07, Maurice wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:07:59 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 = BBC1 SD 2 = BBC2 SD
>>>>>>> 101= BBC1 HD 102= BBC2 HD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aha - now I understand! The TV's Freeview tuner is SD only,
>>>>>> but the Radio Times shows only the HD channel numbers...
>>>>>
>>>>>No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>>BBC 1 SD on Sky and Freesat has always been 101.
>>>>
>>>>Not now.
>>>
>>>oh yes it is :-)
>>>
>>I copied this channel list off the TV screen. The region is Northern
>>Ireland.
>>I've just changed the postcode on my Freesat tuner to a Manchester
>>postcode and rescanned. That gives what you describe.
>>Interesting.
>
>
I realised that. I didn't think through it in detail.
>Mark explained this afternoon.
Ian Jackson
Jul 30, 2016, 8:54:49 AM7/30/16
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In message <nng3m4$njm$2...@dont-email.me>, Maurice
<mau...@nomail.afraid.org> writes
--
Ian
<mau...@nomail.afraid.org> writes
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:13:39 +0200, Martin wrote:
>
>> If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as the
>one
>> you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
>
> I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which channels are
>on
>what muxes (muxi?)!!
>
Muces (obviously).
>
>> If the programme you want to watch is on one of the same muxes as the
>one
>> you are recording, you can watch that using a Humax receiver.
>
> I knew that, but still don't know how to figure out which channels are
>on
>what muxes (muxi?)!!
>
--
Ian
NY
Jul 30, 2016, 10:24:50 AM7/30/16
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"I hate those muces to peeces" :-)
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Jul 30, 2016, 11:53:22 AM7/30/16
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Or even "Bouquets".
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Mark Carver
Jul 31, 2016, 3:07:58 AM7/31/16
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On 29/07/2016 18:23, Maurice wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
>
>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>
> Uh?
Look at the bottom of each page, although for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:08:09 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
>
>> No, Radio Times shows the Sky, Freesat, and Freeview numbers.
>
> Uh?
the Freeview SD numbers are not shown, presumably because it's implicit
that they are 1,2,3,4
Maurice
Jul 31, 2016, 11:57:01 AM7/31/16
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:07:54 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
That's not helpful to those with only SD, is it. though/
> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
Maurice
Jul 31, 2016, 12:05:13 PM7/31/16
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 19:29:46 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
> http://www.terrestrialtv.co.uk/
Thank you for that.
I did see something like it a year or two ago, but almost went cross-eyed
trying to use it, so gave up!
Will try again...
(Pity no web site with simple look-up facility...)
> http://www.terrestrialtv.co.uk/
Thank you for that.
I did see something like it a year or two ago, but almost went cross-eyed
trying to use it, so gave up!
Will try again...
(Pity no web site with simple look-up facility...)
NY
Jul 31, 2016, 12:25:11 PM7/31/16
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each channel, it would be very easy for them also to include 1, 2, 3, 4 for
BBC1, BBC2, ITV1 and CH4 - in the same way that they do for BBC Four (9),
Channel 5 (5), ITV2 (6), ITV3 (10) etc.
But right back from the days of analogue TV, it has been the convention that
TV tuners have been tuned to button1=BBC1, button2=BBC2 etc so maybe there
is an assumption that "everyone" knows about those channel numbers.
So I think it's fair to say that all channels which have listings in Radio
Times have the channel number listed, either in the column heading (for SD)
or at the foot of the column (for HD and/or +1 versions of the channel) -
apart from the Big 4 channels mentioned above.
At least Freeview uses sensible numbers for the HD variants of the Big 4 (ie
101, 102, 103 and 104), unlike Sky which seems to have a very unintuitive
numbering system.
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> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:07:54 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
>
>> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
>> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
>
> That's not helpful to those with only SD, is it. though/
Given that Radio Times list the channel numbers in the column heading for
>
>> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
>> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
>
> That's not helpful to those with only SD, is it. though/
each channel, it would be very easy for them also to include 1, 2, 3, 4 for
BBC1, BBC2, ITV1 and CH4 - in the same way that they do for BBC Four (9),
Channel 5 (5), ITV2 (6), ITV3 (10) etc.
But right back from the days of analogue TV, it has been the convention that
TV tuners have been tuned to button1=BBC1, button2=BBC2 etc so maybe there
is an assumption that "everyone" knows about those channel numbers.
So I think it's fair to say that all channels which have listings in Radio
Times have the channel number listed, either in the column heading (for SD)
or at the foot of the column (for HD and/or +1 versions of the channel) -
apart from the Big 4 channels mentioned above.
At least Freeview uses sensible numbers for the HD variants of the Big 4 (ie
101, 102, 103 and 104), unlike Sky which seems to have a very unintuitive
numbering system.
Mark Carver
Aug 1, 2016, 2:36:56 AM8/1/16
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On 31/07/2016 16:57, Maurice wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:07:54 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
>
>> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
>> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
>
> That's not helpful to those with only SD, is it. though/
Oh, for goodness sake, those four channels have had those de facto
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:07:54 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
>
>> for BBC 1, 2, ITV 1, and C4 the Freeview SD numbers are not shown,
>> presumably because it's implicit that they are 1,2,3,4
>
> That's not helpful to those with only SD, is it. though/
positions for decades. Where did you imagine they were ?
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