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Andrew Gabriel
Aug 15, 2012, 6:29:32 PM8/15/12
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Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
"No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
Exactly the same fault.
Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
to their TV's?
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Andrew Gabriel
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developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
"No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
Exactly the same fault.
Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
to their TV's?
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
Andy Burns
Aug 15, 2012, 6:37:38 PM8/15/12
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
> to their TV's?
or the Beeb have been undoing some of the tweaks they put in place for
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
> to their TV's?
the limpics, IIRC they usually do the changes on a Wednesday, tried a
re-tune?
Bill Wright
Aug 16, 2012, 12:25:27 AM8/16/12
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of course be sure to disconnect it from the mains before you start.
Safety first!
Bill
Brian Gaff
Aug 16, 2012, 12:27:10 AM8/16/12
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Interesting that, with no updates whatsoever, my goodmans box keeps saying,
no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete retune and
at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in a
transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and
goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or
crap on the mains?
Brian
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no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete retune and
at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in a
transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and
goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or
crap on the mains?
Brian
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Rod Speed
Aug 16, 2012, 1:34:41 AM8/16/12
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"Brian Gaff" <Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Interesting that, with no updates whatsoever, my goodmans box keeps
> saying, no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete
> retune and at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in
> a transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and
> goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or
> crap on the mains?
MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
> saying, no signal, please check aerial. I did a factory reset a complete
> retune and at present all seems to be OK. I'm thinking something weird in
> a transmission did summut odd, but I'd have thought that Panasonic and
> goodmans would have had different software. could be just a coincidence or
> crap on the mains?
and that some systems handle that better than others do.
Mark Carver
Aug 16, 2012, 2:30:40 AM8/16/12
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On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote:
>
> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux
>
> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished.
Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the
changes, while plenty of others could.
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Steve Firth
Aug 16, 2012, 2:33:50 AM8/16/12
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Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote just
the puerile shit it always end up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it ALWAYS is.
the puerile shit it always end up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it ALWAYS is.
Nthkentman
Aug 16, 2012, 3:00:02 AM8/16/12
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"Mark Carver" <mark....@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
>> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
>
> Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux
> back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished.
>
> Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the
> changes, while plenty of others could.
It's the BBC...........Funded by *us* and subbed by the backhanders the
>>
>> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
>> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
>
> Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux
> back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished.
>
> Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with the
> changes, while plenty of others could.
Guvmint give 'em....what could possibly go wrong or be at fault?
Brian Gaff
Aug 16, 2012, 4:17:16 AM8/16/12
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Hmm, well, it does seem a strange thing to affect though. The silly part is
that although the box claimed it had no signal, if you go to engineering
info, it says the signal is fine, so its obviously confused!
Can Freeview software get a virus i wonder?
grin
Brian
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that although the box claimed it had no signal, if you go to engineering
info, it says the signal is fine, so its obviously confused!
Can Freeview software get a virus i wonder?
grin
Brian
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Davey
Aug 16, 2012, 4:20:11 AM8/16/12
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Davey.
Dave Plowman (News)
Aug 16, 2012, 4:33:00 AM8/16/12
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In article <k0h7sc$kl6$1...@dont-email.me>,
Have you tried a reset to defaults and a new scan?
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Martin Brown
Aug 16, 2012, 4:43:06 AM8/16/12
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On 15/08/2012 23:29, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
> developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
> "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
Sounds a bit like DAB radio except they just go sullen and silent when
> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
> developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
> "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
crashed by an incoming unplayable noisy datastream.
>
> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
> Exactly the same fault.
>
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
> to their TV's?
More likely that they have reacted badly to various Olympics channels
> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
> Exactly the same fault.
>
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
> to their TV's?
vanishing or by coincidence you both have dodgy aerial leads.
I'll try mine tonight on terrestrial DTV to see if it has any problems.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Percy
Aug 16, 2012, 5:10:53 AM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, "Mark Carver" writ:
>On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
>> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
>
>Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux
>back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished.
>
>Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with
>the changes, while plenty of others could.
>
>
My Panasonic Viera has suffered from this problem a few times in the
past after changes to the software and/or transmitter.
I can confirm that a reset and re-tune will fix the problems.
--
P
>On 16/08/2012 06:34, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> MUCH more likely that some change has happened with the transmitters
>> and that some systems handle that better than others do.
>
>Which is exactly what happened on Wednesday. The BBC returned PSB 1 Mux
>back to its original configuration now the Olympics have finished.
>
>Give the sets a reset, and rescan. Poor form they couldn't cope with
>the changes, while plenty of others could.
>
>
past after changes to the software and/or transmitter.
I can confirm that a reset and re-tune will fix the problems.
--
P
David
Aug 16, 2012, 5:16:31 AM8/16/12
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Is it a Panasonic Freesat?
Mine does it.
Regards
David
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message news:k0h7sc$kl6$1...@dont-email.me...
Mine does it.
Regards
David
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Norman Wells
Aug 16, 2012, 5:43:01 AM8/16/12
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receiving signals from Sandy Heath. It's only on BBC channels, and it
was not corrected by a re-tune yesterday. If I switch to the input from
my Panasonic DVD recorder, the signal seems OK and consistent. It's not
the aerial connection then, as proved by other TVs around the house
continuing to work on the BBC channels off the same downlead but through
different STBs.
Derek F
Aug 16, 2012, 6:04:06 AM8/16/12
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On 15/08/2012 23:29, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
and a Toshiba have been intermittently having that problem for the past
three days. Our signal comes back after a few moments. Each time it has
been on BBC1. Last night around 9.20 I switched to BBC1 HD and it did
not happen again.
Derek
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 16, 2012, 12:14:09 PM8/16/12
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In article <k0h7sc$kl6$1...@dont-email.me>,
OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
Mark Carver
Aug 16, 2012, 12:25:54 PM8/16/12
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On 16/08/2012 17:14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
> The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
> BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
> I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
You're not alone
> OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
> The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
> BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
> I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
Post 11 onwards
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1658172
It's either something the Beeb have done, that Pannys don't like, or
(more likely) something non compliant in the Panny's existing firmware.
If it's the latter, it will have to be put right by Panasonic, via an
over the air update. The downside is they are normally carried on the
BBC Mux, which might provide a difficulty if you can't receive it !
Do the affected sets have an Ethernet and/or USB port ?
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 16, 2012, 12:32:01 PM8/16/12
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In article <a94l8i...@mid.individual.net>,
Mine doesn't (slightly too old for that I think).
It has an SD card slot, and I did see a reference on the
internet somewhere (about a different problem) that some
can be updated by using this.
It has an SD card slot, and I did see a reference on the
internet somewhere (about a different problem) that some
can be updated by using this.
michael adams
Aug 16, 2012, 1:41:27 PM8/16/12
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news:k0j68g$f1j$3...@dont-email.me...
> OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
...
Casting my mind back a few months a normal reset/retune
wouldn't solve a particular problem with certain Freeview
Boxes. They kept asking you to do a retune after five minutes.
The solution was to remove the aerial, do a retune cycle
with no signal, plug the aerial back in and try again.
All I know is that this worked on mine - it may have
been a Grundig (crap) or a Goodmans (no problems so far)
box. I probably read about it on Usenet or a Web Forum
as it doesn't appear in the "manual".
michael adams
...
> OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
Casting my mind back a few months a normal reset/retune
wouldn't solve a particular problem with certain Freeview
Boxes. They kept asking you to do a retune after five minutes.
The solution was to remove the aerial, do a retune cycle
with no signal, plug the aerial back in and try again.
All I know is that this worked on mine - it may have
been a Grundig (crap) or a Goodmans (no problems so far)
box. I probably read about it on Usenet or a Web Forum
as it doesn't appear in the "manual".
michael adams
...
steven.s.b...@gmail.com
Aug 16, 2012, 5:16:01 PM8/16/12
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I've been experiencing the "No Service" issue on my Panasonic plasma on BBC1 since yesterday evening. I switch over to another channel and back again to temporarily solve it. It has happened at least 7 times since yesterday evening and again this evening.
My signal strength is great 10/10 and if I unplug the aerial I receive a "No Signal" error message instead - so I know it's not a signal problem.
Has anybody managed to solve it?
Should I take the TV back to the shop as it is 3 years old on a 5 year warranty?
My signal strength is great 10/10 and if I unplug the aerial I receive a "No Signal" error message instead - so I know it's not a signal problem.
Has anybody managed to solve it?
Should I take the TV back to the shop as it is 3 years old on a 5 year warranty?
Martin Brown
Aug 16, 2012, 5:23:40 PM8/16/12
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using. I put it on DTV terrestrial for the news and it seems fine apart
from grumbling that new channels have been found do I want to retune.
It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 16, 2012, 6:15:33 PM8/16/12
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In article <ExdXr.2570$UW5....@newsfe15.iad>,
This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is
impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted.
TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted.
These all have integral freeview tuners.
Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes:
> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
TX-L26X10B, 3 years old.
> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is
impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted.
TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted.
These all have integral freeview tuners.
janetm...@googlemail.com
Aug 16, 2012, 6:15:02 PM8/16/12
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>
>
>
> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin Brown
janetm...@googlemail.com
Aug 16, 2012, 6:20:47 PM8/16/12
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>
> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin Brown
Norman Wells
Aug 16, 2012, 6:43:03 PM8/16/12
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don't seem to have the same problem on a TX-L26X20B, however, which is
just that bit newer, October 2010.
I'm on the Sandy Heath transmitter if that's relevant.
R. Kennedy McEwen
Aug 16, 2012, 7:54:16 PM8/16/12
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In article <k0j68g$f1j$3...@dont-email.me>, Andrew Gabriel
<and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> writes
either!
I am still waiting to receive the card with the software update that
would resolve acknowledged problems with Panasonic firmware following
Phase 1 of the Rowridge Transmitter switchover back in March.
Fortunately, the problem disappeared on Phase 2 of the switchover a few
weeks later, but that just shows there is something fundamentally
unstable and non-compliant with the Panny firmware, not that the problem
has gone away.
I haven't had any issues with the changes to the PSB mux for the
Limpets, or the return to normal afterwards (I didn't do a retune to get
the extra Limpet streams just in case), but I sure wouldn't want to be
the proverbial "elephant hanging over a cliff with my tail tied to a
daisy" waiting on a Panasonic UK rescue!
Why can't Panasonic just contract engineers with proven ability to write
compliant firmware? Most other vendors seem to manage OK.
--
Kennedy
<and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
>with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
>The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
>BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
>I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
>
Don't expect Panasonic UK service to be enthusiastic in resolving it
>OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
>with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
>The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
>BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
>I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
>
either!
I am still waiting to receive the card with the software update that
would resolve acknowledged problems with Panasonic firmware following
Phase 1 of the Rowridge Transmitter switchover back in March.
Fortunately, the problem disappeared on Phase 2 of the switchover a few
weeks later, but that just shows there is something fundamentally
unstable and non-compliant with the Panny firmware, not that the problem
has gone away.
I haven't had any issues with the changes to the PSB mux for the
Limpets, or the return to normal afterwards (I didn't do a retune to get
the extra Limpet streams just in case), but I sure wouldn't want to be
the proverbial "elephant hanging over a cliff with my tail tied to a
daisy" waiting on a Panasonic UK rescue!
Why can't Panasonic just contract engineers with proven ability to write
compliant firmware? Most other vendors seem to manage OK.
--
Kennedy
Martin Brown
Aug 17, 2012, 3:35:39 AM8/17/12
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On 16/08/2012 23:15, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> In article <ExdXr.2570$UW5....@newsfe15.iad>,
> Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
>
> TX-L26X10B, 3 years old.
That is a surprise since I think my unaffected HD one is about the same
> In article <ExdXr.2570$UW5....@newsfe15.iad>,
> Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> It might be helpful to know the model numbers and ages of failing ones.
>
> TX-L26X10B, 3 years old.
age TX-L37G10B. (but I don't think it was ever used on terrestrial DTV
over the Olympics since satellite had many more HD channels).
If memory serves G/X/? signify freesat/network addon features.
>
> This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is
> impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted.
>
> TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted.
>
> These all have integral freeview tuners.
I have access to a TX-26LXD60 and a TX-?30L??? will check at the
> This is not an HD set, but someone else mentioned their HD set is
> impacted, so that would be at least one other model impacted.
>
> TX-23LXD50, probably 5-6 years old, not impacted.
>
> These all have integral freeview tuners.
weekend. Although I'd have expected to have been rung up by now if there
was anything funny going on with BBC1 !
Regards,
Martin Brown
David
Aug 17, 2012, 4:07:01 AM8/17/12
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Well my Panasonic a few years old now had a function issue Panasonic took
their time, 3 years, to provide an upgrade so I doubt you will get anywhere
my next TV will not be a Panasonic.
Regards
David
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their time, 3 years, to provide an upgrade so I doubt you will get anywhere
my next TV will not be a Panasonic.
Regards
David
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jennif...@gmail.com
Aug 17, 2012, 4:25:24 AM8/17/12
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My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO. The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels.
Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update.
J
Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated as the latest when trying a scan update.
J
Mal Travers
Aug 17, 2012, 5:36:22 AM8/17/12
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answering.
Mal
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Dave Plowman (News)
Aug 17, 2012, 6:06:29 AM8/17/12
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In article <c90055b0-4774-4809...@googlegroups.com>,
If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
effected?
--
*Where there's a will, I want to be in it.
effected?
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*Where there's a will, I want to be in it.
Paul Ratcliffe
Aug 17, 2012, 7:11:03 AM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:06:29 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk>
wrote:
> If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
> effected?
Affected.
> --
> *Where there's a will, I want to be in it.
Your sig. separator is broken.
wrote:
> If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
> effected?
> --
> *Where there's a will, I want to be in it.
Richard Tobin
Aug 17, 2012, 8:00:48 AM8/17/12
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In article <52c09aa...@davenoise.co.uk>,
specification, Panasonic could be failing to comply with it, or the
BBC could be failing to comply with it in a way that only affects some
receivers.
-- Richard
>> Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated
>> as the latest when trying a scan update. J
>If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
>effected?
Not necessarily. Even supposing that there is an unambiguous
>> as the latest when trying a scan update. J
>If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
>effected?
specification, Panasonic could be failing to comply with it, or the
BBC could be failing to comply with it in a way that only affects some
receivers.
-- Richard
janetm...@googlemail.com
Aug 17, 2012, 8:05:31 AM8/17/12
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The TV has been on BBC channels for some considerable time this morning and no sign of the 'no signal' message!
Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever.
Janet
Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever.
Janet
janetm...@googlemail.com
Aug 17, 2012, 8:12:24 AM8/17/12
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No sign of the problem here this morning. Fingers crossed it has been fixed by whoever!
Janet
Janet
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Jim Lesurf
Aug 17, 2012, 7:40:07 AM8/17/12
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> In article <c90055b0-4774-4809...@googlegroups.com>,
> <jennif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO.
> > The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels.
> > Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated
> > as the latest when trying a scan update. J
> If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
> effected?
Not necessarily. Other RXs might miss a detail that was 'out of spec'
> <jennif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My PANASONIC TXP37X10B had this problem a few months back after DSO.
> > The problem cleared but has returned this week with the BBC channels.
> > Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated
> > as the latest when trying a scan update. J
> If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
> effected?
according to the standards. Or even have been programmed by someone
sufficiently bright+cynical to include the relevant exception handler for
what looked like an absurd input pattern.
You know the old joke about 'press any key to continue'... ;->
Slainte,
Jim
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Norman Wells
Aug 17, 2012, 8:50:54 AM8/17/12
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janetm...@googlemail.com wrote:
> No sign of the problem here this morning. Fingers crossed it has been
> fixed by whoever!
No problem here either having watched BBC1 for over an hour.
> No sign of the problem here this morning. Fingers crossed it has been
> fixed by whoever!
I wonder if we'll ever get an explanation?
Mark Carver
Aug 17, 2012, 9:03:07 AM8/17/12
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One is the Beeb have reversed something that got applied on Wednesday,
in addition to the post Olympics rejig, to allow Panasonic time to
rewrite and test their firmware, and quietly apply it via an over the
air download.
A few years ago the Beeb changed something in their MHEG code, that
caused Topfield PVRs to go bananas. The Beeb reversed their upgrade,
until Toppy had corrected their code, and made it available for download.
Paul Ratcliffe
Aug 17, 2012, 10:13:05 AM8/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:27:15 +0200, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> Proof readers --------------------->
F.O., turd.
> Proof readers --------------------->
F.O., turd.
hickman...@gmail.com
Aug 17, 2012, 11:59:20 AM8/17/12
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On Wednesday, 15 August 2012 23:29:32 UTC+1, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
>
> developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
>
> "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
>
> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
>
> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
>
> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
>
> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
>
> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
>
>
>
> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
>
> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
>
> Exactly the same fault.
>
>
>
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
>
> to their TV's?
> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
>
> developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
>
> "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
>
> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
>
> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
>
> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
>
> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
>
> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
>
>
>
> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
>
> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
>
> Exactly the same fault.
>
>
>
> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
>
> to their TV's?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Andrew Gabriel
>
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
Panasonic have stated to us that this is a "broadcast related problem" and is to do with the red button services being changed since the Olympics finished. Other brands also being hit too. No word on when it will be sorted by the BBC/Transmitter network though.
>
>
> --
>
> Andrew Gabriel
>
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
Andy Burns
Aug 17, 2012, 12:13:04 PM8/17/12
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hickman...@gmail.com wrote:
> Andrew Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes,
>> it flips to saying "No service"
>
Panasonic at fault ...
> Other brands also being hit too.
That bit does at least hint that it's not Panasonic, or it could mean
it's not only Panasonic with a fault ...
> Andrew Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Panasonic Viera TV has developed a fault. After about 10 minutes,
>> it flips to saying "No service"
>
> Panasonic have stated to us that this is a "broadcast related
> problem" and is to do with the red button services being changed
> since the Olympics finished.
That sounds carefully crafted to avoid saying whether it's the BBC or
> problem" and is to do with the red button services being changed
> since the Olympics finished.
Panasonic at fault ...
> Other brands also being hit too.
it's not only Panasonic with a fault ...
Mark Carver
Aug 17, 2012, 12:24:58 PM8/17/12
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Andrew Gabriel
Aug 20, 2012, 1:05:35 PM8/20/12
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In article <k0j68g$f1j$3...@dont-email.me>,
and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
> In article <k0h7sc$kl6$1...@dont-email.me>,
> and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
>> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
has been resolved. Doesn't say anything about what the
fault was.
I haven't seen the problem since others here also reported
it had gone.
and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
> In article <k0h7sc$kl6$1...@dont-email.me>,
> and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
>> Had a call from the parents saying their Panasonic Viera TV has
>> developed a fault. After about 10 minutes, it flips to saying
>> "No service", which is what would normally happen if you pull
>> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
>> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
>> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
>> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
>> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
>>
>> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
>> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
>> Exactly the same fault.
>>
>> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
>> to their TV's?
>
>> out the aerial. However, another digital TV shows the aerial
>> signal is fine. Once it's gone "No service", it stays there
>> until you change channel, and you can then change back immediately
>> and the original channel is working again. It's 3 years into a
>> 5 year guarantee, so I wasn't too worried.
>>
>> This evening, I've just turned on my TV, which is an identical
>> model, same age, but different area of the country and transmitter.
>> Exactly the same fault.
>>
>> Could it be that Panasonic have downloaded some buggy new firmware
>> to their TV's?
>
> OK, looks like this is a widespread problem, but possibly only
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
> The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
> BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
> I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
Got a reply today saying they believe the technical fault
> with a few Panasonic models. Reset/retune makes no difference.
> The consensus seems to be it's more likely to be a change the
> BBC did yesterday than it is to be a buggy firmware update.
> I emailed BBC transmitter engineering...
has been resolved. Doesn't say anything about what the
fault was.
I haven't seen the problem since others here also reported
it had gone.
Martin Brown
Aug 21, 2012, 3:29:48 AM8/21/12
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Odd that the Beeb should victimise Panasonic kit like that!
Regards,
Martin Brown
David
Aug 21, 2012, 11:58:43 AM8/21/12
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"Martin Brown" wrote in message news:NNGYr.22$9U...@newsfe18.iad...
Odd that the Beeb should victimise Panasonic kit like that!
Regards,
Martin Brown
new software, put me off Panasonic for future choice of TV.
Panasonic have refused to do updates for other players.
Regards
David
Stephen Wolstenholme
Aug 21, 2012, 12:17:17 PM8/21/12
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Stephen Wolstenholme
Aug 21, 2012, 1:15:21 PM8/21/12
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:17:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
<st...@npsl1.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:00:48 +0000 (UTC), ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
>(Richard Tobin) wrote:
>
>>In article <52c09aa...@davenoise.co.uk>,
>>Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated
>>>> as the latest when trying a scan update. J
>>
>>>If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
>>>effected?
>>
>>Not necessarily. Even supposing that there is an unambiguous
>>specification, Panasonic could be failing to comply with it, or the
>>BBC could be failing to comply with it in a way that only affects some
>>receivers.
>>
Sorry for the empty message. I was meaning to say that my Panasonic
<st...@npsl1.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:00:48 +0000 (UTC), ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
>(Richard Tobin) wrote:
>
>>In article <52c09aa...@davenoise.co.uk>,
>>Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Panny or BBC at fault??????? Software V. 1.005 on mine which is stated
>>>> as the latest when trying a scan update. J
>>
>>>If it were 'the BBC at fault', wouldn't all FreeView receivers be
>>>effected?
>>
>>Not necessarily. Even supposing that there is an unambiguous
>>specification, Panasonic could be failing to comply with it, or the
>>BBC could be failing to comply with it in a way that only affects some
>>receivers.
>>
had no trouble.
Steve
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 27, 2012, 4:42:51 PM8/27/12
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In article <k0tqov$991$1...@dont-email.me>,
Spoke too soon, fault is back again tonight, possibly worse than
before. Goes to "No service" after probably only 5 minutes,
whereas before it was nearer 10-15 minutes. Noticed it on
BBC News, BBC1, and BBC2. This is first time I've watched TV since
Saturday, so not sure when the fault reappeared.
before. Goes to "No service" after probably only 5 minutes,
whereas before it was nearer 10-15 minutes. Noticed it on
BBC News, BBC1, and BBC2. This is first time I've watched TV since
Saturday, so not sure when the fault reappeared.
brass monkey
Aug 27, 2012, 5:11:43 PM8/27/12
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"Andrew Gabriel" <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:k1gm4b$h0s$1...@dont-email.me...
with your prob. Our Viera would switch between av inputs, seemed random,
might go to AV1 or 2 or HDMI1 or TV (all had feeds). I tried a reset, seemed
to work for a few days then prob returned. I whipped out the aerial (I
rarely use it) and its been fine.
Norman Wells
Aug 27, 2012, 5:39:16 PM8/27/12
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Derek F
Aug 28, 2012, 4:32:50 AM8/28/12
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to HD and no more loss of signal. A seemingly old message on screen last
night and this morning saying 27/06/2012 you may need to retune.
Derek
norm...@hotmail.com
Aug 29, 2012, 6:40:26 PM8/29/12
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Same fault same symptoms on BBC channels. I've tried numerous retunes to no avail.
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 31, 2012, 4:19:39 PM8/31/12
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In article <884dbed0-1f7e-4a82...@googlegroups.com>,
Also got a reply from the BBC saying they are actively
working towards a resolution with the manufacturer.
> Panasonic L26X10B (Purchased June 2009) model here with 1.009 software.
> Same fault same symptoms on BBC channels. I've tried numerous retunes to no avail.
It seems to have gone away for me, at the moment.
> Same fault same symptoms on BBC channels. I've tried numerous retunes to no avail.
Also got a reply from the BBC saying they are actively
working towards a resolution with the manufacturer.
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