TOT "Most Secret War", R V Jones
Java Jive
spark some interest. This book was published in 1978, but I only
picked it up comparatively recently in some sh sale somewhere just
before I moved house, and have just rediscovered it buried in a trunk,
and read it for the first time.
The author worked high up in British wartime Intelligence, with access
to Churchill, occasionally attending meetings in the War Cabinet, was
circulated with Enigma transcripts, etc. The book's subject matter is
likely to be of interest here: Radar, navigation beams to guide
bombers, etc.
Interestingly, one of the consistent themes of the book is a lack of
decent scientists. Plus ca change ...
(Also of interest might be F W Winterbotham, "The Ultra Secret", 1974,
about the cracking of Enigma.)
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Dingo
"Java Jive" <ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>I mentioned "Spycatcher" in some thread recently, and that seemd to
> spark some interest. This book was published in 1978, but I only
> picked it up comparatively recently in some sh sale somewhere just
> before I moved house, and have just rediscovered it buried in a trunk,
> and read it for the first time.
>
> The author worked high up in British wartime Intelligence, with access
> to Churchill, occasionally attending meetings in the War Cabinet, was
> circulated with Enigma transcripts, etc. The book's subject matter is
> likely to be of interest here: Radar, navigation beams to guide
> bombers, etc.
>
> Interestingly, one of the consistent themes of the book is a lack of
> decent scientists. Plus ca change ...
>
> (Also of interest might be F W Winterbotham, "The Ultra Secret", 1974,
> about the cracking of Enigma.)
I always found R.V. Jones a most interesting chap to listen to on the
various TV documentaries he was in. Never did learn why he wore a wrist
watch on each wrist tho'.
~~
Dingo
Alan
<ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote
>I mentioned "Spycatcher" in some thread recently, and that seemd to
>spark some interest. This book was published in 1978, but I only
>picked it up comparatively recently in some sh sale somewhere just
>before I moved house, and have just rediscovered it buried in a trunk,
>and read it for the first time.
Possibly the same source material as R.V jones features in much of the
writing.
The Secret War by Brian Johnson first published in 1978 and based on six
BBC programmes of that name
ISBN 0 563 17769 1
The battle of the beams
Radar
Terror weapons
The battle of the Atlantic
Misfortunes of War
Enigma
A well written and informative book.
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Hello Dingo.
I think the watches showed GMT and local time.
Regards, Rog.
Clint Sharp
>I mentioned "Spycatcher" in some thread recently, and that seemd to
>spark some interest. This book was published in 1978, but I only
>picked it up comparatively recently in some sh sale somewhere just
>before I moved house, and have just rediscovered it buried in a trunk,
>and read it for the first time.
>
>The author worked high up in British wartime Intelligence, with access
>to Churchill, occasionally attending meetings in the War Cabinet, was
>circulated with Enigma transcripts, etc. The book's subject matter is
>likely to be of interest here: Radar, navigation beams to guide
>bombers, etc.
capture RADAR equipment and the Infrared stuff was a bit of a surprise
too.
>
>Interestingly, one of the consistent themes of the book is a lack of
>decent scientists. Plus ca change ...
>
>(Also of interest might be F W Winterbotham, "The Ultra Secret", 1974,
>about the cracking of Enigma.)
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Clint Sharp
Tanuki
out http://www.seftondelmer.co.uk/
He was truly the expert at 'grey propaganda'
--Tanuki
Jim Lesurf
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> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:21:19 +0100, Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> RVJones later became prof of Physics at Aberdeen Uni. He was there
> around 1970. His particular expertise was instrumentation, IIRC. In the
> basement of the department he had a kit for measuring the tilt of the
> ground as the tide came in an out!
About 10 years ago I and my (then) research group did a project for the old
Telecomms agency to collect data on air loss and refraction effects at
36-37GHz. To do this we used a multiport interferometer on the roof of the
building to pick up signals from a distant TX. These showed a tiny
systematic variation in direction of arrival each day just after sunrise.
After studying this we finally concluded that our building was 'twisting'
as the sunrise started heating one part of the building before the rest. I
can't now recall how small the effect was, but way smaller than a degree!
Slainte,
Jim
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Graham C
wrote:
>RV Jones
>to Churchill, occasionally attending meetings in the War Cabinet, was
>circulated with Enigma transcripts, etc. The book's subject matter is
>likely to be of interest here: Radar, navigation beams to guide
>bombers, etc.
I remember one documentary where he stressed how almost impossible it
was to convince the War Cabinet just how serious some things were -
e.g.. the accuracy of German beam systems. The Government weren't
terribly interested in remarks made by people working at the sharp
end.
Bit like telling them then the UK banking system is about to go tits
up, I guess.
GrahamC.
>
UKMonitor
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:21:19 +0100, Java Jive <j...@evij.com.invalid>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Some other very good ones are on this list
http://www.garatshay.org.uk/bibliography.htm
I'd reccomend "Between Silk and Cyanide" above all the rest, however
"The Enemy is Listening: The Story of the Y Service" is also a good
read and more on topic.
UKM
Graham C
<ukmo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>Some other very good ones are on this list
>
>http://www.garatshay.org.uk/bibliography.htm
>
>I'd reccomend "Between Silk and Cyanide" above all the rest, however
>"The Enemy is Listening: The Story of the Y Service" is also a good
>read and more on topic.
>
>UKM
Some great stuff on this list.
Totally OT, but I wonder why this page doesn't display properly in
Firefox. If I change 'colours', to use 'system colours' rather than
'its own'.
OR -if I change 'Page style' to 'no style' instead of 'basic' then
all the text is revealed.
Can't say I've noticed this problem with any other site, and it's fine
in IE.
GrahamC
Java Jive
set colours properly, and inadequately tested so the problem, which is
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:23:05 +0000, Graham C
<graha...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> Totally OT, but I wonder why this page doesn't display properly in
> Firefox. If I change 'colours', to use 'system colours' rather than
> 'its own'.
> OR -if I change 'Page style' to 'no style' instead of 'basic' then
> all the text is revealed.
>
> Can't say I've noticed this problem with any other site, and it's fine
> in IE.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid>
saying something like:
>(Also of interest might be F W Winterbotham, "The Ultra Secret", 1974,
>about the cracking of Enigma.)
Iirc, Winterbotham describes how Dowding, who had access to Ultra, knew
what was coming and was able to husband his resources, whereas Park and
Mallory were continually sniping and harrying Dowding for being too
conservative. Little did they know.
Java Jive
treatment of Dowding once the Battle Of Britain was over seems to have
been somewhat shameful.
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:17:14 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Iirc, Winterbotham describes how Dowding, who had access to Ultra, knew
> what was coming and was able to husband his resources, whereas Park and
> Mallory were continually sniping and harrying Dowding for being too
> conservative. Little did they know.
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drugs began to take hold. I remember Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid>
saying something like:
>Yes, end of Ch 7 "Operation Sea-Lion", p61-3 in my copy. The
>treatment of Dowding once the Battle Of Britain was over seems to have
>been somewhat shameful.
It was a bloody disgrace, imo.