100hz or 50hz widescreen TV?
JC
the Sony KV-28 LS60U (100hz) and the KV-28LS35 (50hz)
Ive searched the posts on google groups and searched on the net about the
50hz v 100hz but mostly what I found was posts from over a year ago. Finding
that most people say that 100Hz blends the picture, gives better colours and
reduces flicker but the 50 hz gives a sharper picture. Im told if you cant
notice the flicker on 50hz then you should stick with it.
One problem is the 100hz Sony TV im looking at is the standard 100HZ option.
The 100hz Digital plus and the advance100 hz digital plus are too big to fit
in the lounge. So im limited to the 100hz basic. Would the 50hz model be the
best picture over the standard 100hz basic?
Thanks alot.
JC
loz
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compromise by getting a 75hz one.
Only YOU can determine what is the best picture.
A load of bigots (which is what 100hz vs 50hz debate has become) here
aren't going to tell you which is best for you, only what they prefer.
Use your eyes and make up your own mind.
In this case it really is important, as clearly some people are bothered
by flicker and others are not.
What would be the point of buying a 50hz set because someone here said
it is a better picture, if you cant stand 50hz flicker?
I don't like 100hz processing artefacts for example, but I dislike them
less than I dislike 50hz flicker which really gets on my nerves and is
noticable all the time for me, whereas artefacts are only occasionally.
loz
Rob
some comments:
fast moving text, eg: credits at end of programs, does blur. some tvs have
extra motion processing which eliminates this on 100Hz tvs.
It is due to the way the tv processes the signal.
i only have analogue tv at the mo. Some analogue broadcasts look worse than
others. BTW, i have a superb signal.
Are you sure you want a 28"? the difference in actual unit size between the
28" and 32" versions of mine was very small- 3 to 5 cms horizontally and
vertically. I had a 24" standard tv before, and the 32" screen is the same
HEIGHT as my old 24" TV. If i got a 28" w/s tv, the screen height would have
been smaller. Unless you are VERY tight for space, i would recommend a 32"
over a 28". Ireckon a 28" will look too small very soon. Having said that,
i paid £800 and expect my tv to last me 10 years. If you spend a couple of
hundred quid and can aford to upgrade in a couple of years, then why not.
Picture on DVD is fab. I am waiting for DTTV to calm down before I get that
instaed of analogue.
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Rob.
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forever."
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Bubo
>50hz v 100hz but mostly what I found was posts from over a year ago. Finding
>that most people say that 100Hz blends the picture, gives better colours and
>reduces flicker but the 50 hz gives a sharper picture. Im told if you cant
Mate, if you are likely to want to use a playstation/gamecube/xbox etc
on it, then I would definately insist on seeing it demoed in the shop,
if they won't do it, take your own playstation in and try it. I'm glad
I did that, cos on a normal 100Hz widescreen job anything that scrolls
sideways, (I used the scrolling team lineup in pro evo soccer) looks
absolutely shite at 100Hz. The TV I ended up getting was a Sony 32FQ75
whichs has 2 100hz modes and an option to drop back to 50Hz if you
like, which is perfect for games.
very uncool
>
> Beware though that dodgy analogue television and VHS look worse on a 100Hz
that the 50Hz
> counterpart.
you can switch to 50hz on a 100hz tv though
ice
can squeeze one in.
ice
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loz
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Only some have this capability
loz
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PS2 on my 100hz Tosh looks absolutely wonderful. Wipes the floor with my
neighbours PS2 on his 50hz Panasonic. So much so, he spends more time round
my house playing my PS2 than his.
Loz has given you the sensible answer. Look for yourself and make your own
mind up.
David
Starálfur
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> flicker on a 100Hz is virtually non-existent,
100 times a second, would you believe.
;)
Dodo
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When viewed from the perspective of a caged hummingbird.
D.
JC
Cheers
JC
Stephen Neal
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>> "JC" <dimfin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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[snip]
>
>PS2 on my 100hz Tosh looks absolutely wonderful. Wipes the floor with my
>neighbours PS2 on his 50hz Panasonic. So much so, he spends more time
round
>my house playing my PS2 than his.
I believe that 100Hz sets don't work correctly with Lightgun accessories on
Games Consoles? They rely on the 50Hz scanning parameters of the TV to work
out where on the screen the gun is pointing I believe.
Not a problem unless you use the gun accessory mind?!
I'd take a good look at the sets you are considering, fed with the sources
you would feed them with i.e. DVD, Sky Digital, analogue off-air, VHS etc.
As someone who watches broadcast quality pictures all day - and was trained
in evaluating their quality (I know of few broadcast monitors that run at
anything other than 50 or 60Hz - though progressive plasmas and LCDs are
being used for non-critical monitoring in some areas) I find 100Hz
processing very difficult to watch. The motion artefacts introduced are
just too obvious to me - I also found out that early Philips sets ran at
only 6bit processing at less than 3:1:1 quality, explaining why they looked
so dreadful - they have since improved!
HOWEVER - if you are not sensitive to these artefacts, and are happier with
the flicker reduction then 100Hz may be for you.
From what I have seen the Sony DRC processing is the best (I have yet to see
the new Philips Pixel Plus) - with both 625/100 and 1250/50 display modes -
the 1250/50 looks stunning when fed with a high quality DVD. I still don't
like the 100Hz mode - but it is the least worst I have seen. The DRC range
looks massively better than the non-DRC 100Hz Sony sets IMHO.
Bottom line - look at the pictures for a while and decide what you like. I
recommend John Lewis if you have one near you - they will price match an
internet dealer (though they do check things like whether stands are
included - often they aren't on the internet quoted prices...) - and they
provide a FIVE year warranty as standard. You may also be able to agree
that you can return the set if you aren't happy. My father bought a 50Hz
Panasonic and had to return it as it would not display RGB pictures in 4:3
mode... John Lewis were fine with this and allowed him to swap it for a Sony
50Hz set.
Steve
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I don't have a lightgun but most if not all do not work on 100hz sets. I
have to say that I am adverse to 50hz flicker. In the "old" days I used to
get headaches watching television and I could often hear the television
whine. 100hz is ideal for me for that reason alone.
I am on my second 100hz and it is massively improved over the first one.
Less obvious signs of digital processing being the main difference. No
smearing whilst watching football.
David
Jaimie Vandenbergh
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>"JC" <dimfin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>50hz v 100hz but mostly what I found was posts from over a year ago. Finding
>>that most people say that 100Hz blends the picture, gives better colours and
>>reduces flicker but the 50 hz gives a sharper picture. Im told if you cant
>
>Mate, if you are likely to want to use a playstation/gamecube/xbox etc
>on it,
If you are going to play games on it, and if any of them are gun
games, make damn sure it'll switch back to real 50Hz or they Won't
Work.
Cheers - Jaimie
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disgusting crime against nature" shows a sadly deficient knowledge of
the foul and disgusting, not to mention of crimes against nature.'
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John Porcella
are more artefacts at 100 rather than the 50.
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MESSAGE ENDS.
John Porcella
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Phil
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