On 12/01/2022 08:24, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Yes I agree. Yes subtitles is a bit pointless for me. I have a limiter here,
> and although that can help the eternal pumping of the volume is very
> fatiguing to actually listen to.
> I also noted the other day that some US shows of the real crime variety can
> suffer from the drowning out of the narrator. These aware not audio
> described. they are narrated over the old footage or re enactments going on
> at the same time. I did wonder if the programs were originally produced in
> multi channel and the compromises used by the sterofication were
> contributing to the issue of inaudibility generally. Anyone out there
> listening to the surround mixes of common mumble ridden shows?
> It often gets worse if there is true AD too of cours.
> Brian
>
One of the problems comes from sound decoding to produce (say) five
channels. Centre, left/right front and left/right back.
A lot of televisions have two speakers and draw on the left/right front
information.
If the dialogue is coded to the centre channel and the left/right front
used for the atmospheric sound that is what you'll hear on a basic two
speaker tv. Often there is a bit of dialogue on these two side channels
- but it is equally often muffled by the sound effects.
The breakthrough for us was to push the sound through our AV kit and
feed a small cube speaker, located at the bottom of the tv, with the
info from the centre channel.
On many programs such as the news this is not necessary. But films and
tv drama often need that centre speaker. The reason why the programme
directors don't hear the problem is because almost all the time they are
previewing their output in viewing theatres with surround sound audio.
When this problem came to light around ten or so years ago the programme
makers were instructed to watch their programmes on crude tvs so they
heard the problem. Now nobody bothers and simply blames it on mumbling
actors.
Having said that we still find ourselves running films with the
subtitles more and more often. We watched Gosford Park yesterday and the
subs were essential to a full understanding of what was going on.