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Kenny
Aug 29, 2015, 2:02:11 AM8/29/15
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Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive, problem
is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
"safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
are found. There was no printed user manual with this TV, it's onscreen,
but I can't see anything about this.
Related question, I also have to remove it from TV and connect to PC to
delete files, can it be done from the TV?
Kenny Cargill
is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
"safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
are found. There was no printed user manual with this TV, it's onscreen,
but I can't see anything about this.
Related question, I also have to remove it from TV and connect to PC to
delete files, can it be done from the TV?
Kenny Cargill
Indy Jess John
Aug 29, 2015, 4:16:05 AM8/29/15
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On 29/08/2015 07:02, Kenny wrote:
> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive, problem
> is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
> "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
> tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
> are found.
This is a standard feature of some versions of Windows. It doesn't know
> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive, problem
> is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
> "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
> tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
> are found.
there are errors, it just assumes that there might be. If you skip the
scan, it almost certainly will use it OK.
> There was no printed user manual with this TV, it's onscreen,
> but I can't see anything about this.
> Related question, I also have to remove it from TV and connect to PC to
> delete files, can it be done from the TV?
recording to USB devices, which means it has to be formatted and then
written to on the TV for the TV to be able to modify the files.
Otherwise it can only read them.
Jim
Kenny
Aug 29, 2015, 4:58:14 AM8/29/15
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Thanks for the reply, the TV reads OK from a pen drive or external HDD
formatted in Windows. For recording have to use a dedicated pen drive which
the TV formats in a form of Linux. I know that because I tried to take
recordings off it, found software to let Windows "see" it but couldn't
convert the recordings to a usable file type.
Kenny
"Indy Jess John" wrote in message news:8TdEx.275706$Ch1....@fx40.am4...
formatted in Windows. For recording have to use a dedicated pen drive which
the TV formats in a form of Linux. I know that because I tried to take
recordings off it, found software to let Windows "see" it but couldn't
convert the recordings to a usable file type.
Kenny
"Indy Jess John" wrote in message news:8TdEx.275706$Ch1....@fx40.am4...
Brian Gaff
Aug 29, 2015, 5:17:19 AM8/29/15
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That appears to be the standard way from wha t I hear.
However Its been a while but I do remember disabling caching on the
computer so one wrote directly to the ram stick and had no issues about safe
removal from the computer any more as all files were written in real time.
Not sure why, on modern machines, why one would need to do anything other
than just copy the files.
Brian
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However Its been a while but I do remember disabling caching on the
computer so one wrote directly to the ram stick and had no issues about safe
removal from the computer any more as all files were written in real time.
Not sure why, on modern machines, why one would need to do anything other
than just copy the files.
Brian
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Dave W
Aug 29, 2015, 5:56:12 AM8/29/15
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them up, nothing about operation. If you can't find what you want on
the on-screen menus then you're stuffed.
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R. Mark Clayton
Aug 29, 2015, 6:53:33 AM8/29/15
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On Saturday, 29 August 2015 07:02:11 UTC+1, Kenny wrote:
> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive, problem
> is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
> "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
> tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
> are found. There was no printed user manual with this TV, it's onscreen,
> but I can't see anything about this.
Whether there is likely to be any on stick confusion will depend on whether there is active writing going on when you pull it out.
> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive, problem
> is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before removing it like
> "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this and put it in PC it
> tells me there's errors on it and insists on scanning it although no errors
> are found. There was no printed user manual with this TV, it's onscreen,
> but I can't see anything about this.
Do not remove the drive when formatting it or when recording. Ideally, only remove the drive when the TV is off or in standby.
> Related question, I also have to remove it from TV and connect to PC to
> delete files, can it be done from the TV?
>
> Kenny Cargill
Dave Farrance
Aug 29, 2015, 7:50:17 AM8/29/15
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should normally only happen if there were outstanding changes that
hadn't been written to the drive before it was removed. If no
inconsistency is ever found, then maybe the TV's USB handling is a bit
duff.
Jim Lesurf
Aug 29, 2015, 9:03:36 AM8/29/15
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In article <mrrs74$8go$1...@news.albasani.net>, Kenny <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, the TV reads OK from a pen drive or external HDD
> formatted in Windows. For recording have to use a dedicated pen drive
> which the TV formats in a form of Linux.
What do you mean by "formats in a form of Linux"? Linux is an OS, not a
> Thanks for the reply, the TV reads OK from a pen drive or external HDD
> formatted in Windows. For recording have to use a dedicated pen drive
> which the TV formats in a form of Linux.
filing system. Do you mean the TV formats devices as ext3, ext4, or
similar?
FWIW My Panasonic Video DVD recorders make DVD RW's with no 'owner'. Not
sure if this is a deliberate ploy to get in the way of reading on Linux
systems, or simply cluelessness. Can't comment on file systems, etc, for
Windows.
> I know that because I tried to take recordings off it, found software to
> let Windows "see" it but couldn't convert the recordings to a usable
> file type.
FWIW Here my Panasonic TV will access memory sticks formatted with the
common Microsoft 'FAT' arrangements. It also allows me to dismount them.
But I think it also dismounts automatically when 'switched off' (i.e. put
into standby). I'd hope any sensible 'smart' TV would do that. But of
course we're talking here about large international consumer companies. So
the mere fact that something is sensible won't ensure it is implimented.
:-/
Jim
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Jim Lesurf
Aug 29, 2015, 9:18:51 AM8/29/15
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In article <go63uat96d271eqak...@4ax.com>, Dave Farrance
elsewhere. Although foul-ups shouldn't be discounted, I assume...
<DaveFa...@OMiTTHiSyahooANDTHiS.co.uk> wrote:
> That means that the USB drive's filesystem "dirty bit" is set, which
> should normally only happen if there were outstanding changes that
> hadn't been written to the drive before it was removed. If no
> inconsistency is ever found, then maybe the TV's USB handling is a bit
> duff.
Possibly deliberate if it is trying to make recordings hard to use
> That means that the USB drive's filesystem "dirty bit" is set, which
> should normally only happen if there were outstanding changes that
> hadn't been written to the drive before it was removed. If no
> inconsistency is ever found, then maybe the TV's USB handling is a bit
> duff.
elsewhere. Although foul-ups shouldn't be discounted, I assume...
Kenny
Aug 29, 2015, 12:38:41 PM8/29/15
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Thanks again for replies. When recording from TV to USB it formats the
drive in Linux which can only be played back on that TV. PC will see the
drive as empty but there is software, can't remember what it was, which let
me see the files in Windows but they were unusable. I also have a Ross
Freesat box which I believe also uses a form of Linux, it can record to USB
in an odd multipart format but I did find software which could convert these
to more standard video files.
It's very rarely I would find anything on TV worth recording and saving but
would like the ability to save and convert when I do. I had stopped using
the Freesat box when I bought this LG with Freesat built in. but I may hunt
it out again for programs I want to save.
Kenny
Kenny
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message news:54fac29...@audiomisc.co.uk...
drive in Linux which can only be played back on that TV. PC will see the
drive as empty but there is software, can't remember what it was, which let
me see the files in Windows but they were unusable. I also have a Ross
Freesat box which I believe also uses a form of Linux, it can record to USB
in an odd multipart format but I did find software which could convert these
to more standard video files.
It's very rarely I would find anything on TV worth recording and saving but
would like the ability to save and convert when I do. I had stopped using
the Freesat box when I bought this LG with Freesat built in. but I may hunt
it out again for programs I want to save.
Kenny
Kenny
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message news:54fac29...@audiomisc.co.uk...
Johnny B Good
Aug 29, 2015, 4:23:58 PM8/29/15
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Bob
Aug 30, 2015, 12:09:22 PM8/30/15
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On 30/08/2015 02:07, Gordon Freeman wrote:
> plugged into a Bush (aka Vestel) PVR. If it was simply reading the
> memory stick then simply unplgging it shouldn't have caused a problem, but
> on examination I found that it was writing little files to the stick to
> keep track of how much of each video you'd watched so it could
> resume playback later.
>
> The reason this causes a problem is that FAT32 file systems don't
> normally have some on-disk stats such as the free space figure updated
> as files are created and deleted, only when you ask to unmount it or
> shut the system down. Despite the dire warnings chkdsk gives, the
> problem is not catastrophic but can mean the disk doesn't have the
> amount of free space it says it has and so may unexpectedly run out of
> space. It can also slow down the disk since another datum that isn't
> updated on the fly is a pointer to the beginning of the free space on
> the disk which normally saves the computer from having to scan the whole
> File Allocation Table looking for free space when making new files.
>
> The solution if there is no unmount option seems to be to turn the
> machine off before removing the stick, as it should unmount all its
> storage devices before going into standby.
>
Does this help?
How to properly eject USB Stick or HD Drive connected to LG smart TV
1st way :
1- Press Home in magic remote control
2- Press the cable circle on the right of the screen ( input hub )
3- Select all inputs
4- Scroll down and locate the usb stick or hd drive under smartshare section
5- Select the desired usb device to remove
6- Press eject from the right of the screen
2nd way
1- Press and hold 123/input from the magic remote control
2- Select all inputs
3- Scroll down and locate the usb stick or hd drive under smartshare section
4- Select the desired usb device to remove
5- Press eject from the right of the screen
> "Kenny" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive,
>> problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before
>> removing it like "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this
>> and put it in PC it tells me there's errors on it and insists on
>> scanning it although no errors are found.
>
> I have experienced a similar thing after playing videos on memory sticks
>
>> Have a 50" LG Smart TV which plays video files from a USB pen drive,
>> problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect it before
>> removing it like "safely remove hardware" in Windows. When I do this
>> and put it in PC it tells me there's errors on it and insists on
>> scanning it although no errors are found.
>
> plugged into a Bush (aka Vestel) PVR. If it was simply reading the
> memory stick then simply unplgging it shouldn't have caused a problem, but
> on examination I found that it was writing little files to the stick to
> keep track of how much of each video you'd watched so it could
> resume playback later.
>
> The reason this causes a problem is that FAT32 file systems don't
> normally have some on-disk stats such as the free space figure updated
> as files are created and deleted, only when you ask to unmount it or
> shut the system down. Despite the dire warnings chkdsk gives, the
> problem is not catastrophic but can mean the disk doesn't have the
> amount of free space it says it has and so may unexpectedly run out of
> space. It can also slow down the disk since another datum that isn't
> updated on the fly is a pointer to the beginning of the free space on
> the disk which normally saves the computer from having to scan the whole
> File Allocation Table looking for free space when making new files.
>
> The solution if there is no unmount option seems to be to turn the
> machine off before removing the stick, as it should unmount all its
> storage devices before going into standby.
>
Does this help?
How to properly eject USB Stick or HD Drive connected to LG smart TV
1st way :
1- Press Home in magic remote control
2- Press the cable circle on the right of the screen ( input hub )
3- Select all inputs
4- Scroll down and locate the usb stick or hd drive under smartshare section
5- Select the desired usb device to remove
6- Press eject from the right of the screen
2nd way
1- Press and hold 123/input from the magic remote control
2- Select all inputs
3- Scroll down and locate the usb stick or hd drive under smartshare section
4- Select the desired usb device to remove
5- Press eject from the right of the screen
Indy Jess John
Aug 30, 2015, 3:12:19 PM8/30/15
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On 30/08/2015 17:09, Bob wrote:
> Does this help?
>
> How to properly eject USB Stick or HD Drive connected to LG smart TV
>
> 1st way :
>
> 1- Press Home in magic remote control
<snip>
> Does this help?
>
> How to properly eject USB Stick or HD Drive connected to LG smart TV
>
> 1st way :
>
> 1- Press Home in magic remote control
I haven't got a magic remote control.
Can it be done without one?
Jim
Bob
Aug 30, 2015, 3:29:48 PM8/30/15
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remote either) and managed to navigate my way to the USB menu but there
was nothing about unmounting the USB. I'm not sure they need to be
unmounted from a tv, just from a computer. I removed and replaced the
USB stick several times with no ill effect.
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