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billybob

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Jul 25, 2007, 5:02:03 PM7/25/07
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Anybody know of any freeview boxes that have an RF out with the freeview
channels on it . As opposed to a RF Loop through.
My poor old telly (but working very well thank you) does not have a SCART
socket...
Thanks


madge

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Jul 26, 2007, 2:01:17 AM7/26/07
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Straightforward box Ferguson DTI2300

If you want a PVR the Topsfield 5800

Ian Jackson

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Jul 25, 2007, 6:12:19 PM7/25/07
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widgitt

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Jul 25, 2007, 7:39:04 PM7/25/07
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Humax F2 Fox T, you wont regret it. And, if your TV is a recognised
make, the Humax handset will work the TV as well, to save having two
handsets.

Bill Wright

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Jul 25, 2007, 9:13:16 PM7/25/07
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"widgitt" <pra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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We sell a lot of them and they're a very nice box. Bit pricey though.

Bill


FCS

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Jul 25, 2007, 11:36:01 PM7/25/07
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I got around this by hooking it up through
a VCR with a SCART and taking the feed off
its RF out. Should be easy enough to find,
car boot sale or whatever. The VCR itself?
A 1986 Freguson bog standard model.

Otherwise, there is a market there, for RF
boxes really isn't there? SCART in->RF out
and all that concerned mumbling, about the
surge of old kit that'll be jettisoned in
2010 evaporates in a puff of £15 gadgetry.

Yes, I think I shall have some words with a
circuit wizard about that...

G DAEB

COPYRIGHT (C) 2007 SIPSTON
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Jul 26, 2007, 3:48:47 AM7/26/07
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I'd google for Modulator before you do that :=))

Fraid Maplin etc got there years ahead of you.

Also to the OP, if you decide to go the VCR route, be aware that some
of the last models to roll off the line didn't have modulated RF
outputs either.

Max Demian

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:00:30 AM7/26/07
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"madge" <spammail...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Or the Humax PVR-9200T.

(Can't let you get away with that.)

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Paul D.Smith

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:03:52 AM7/26/07
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If you don't mind second hand, there's an old Sagem (61?) that does this or
a Goodmans referred to on this NG recently (actually the poster needed to
turn OFF the modulator ;-) ). I went with the Sagem for my elderly
neighbours since they needed 2, one with, one without, and it meant I could
get one hard-to-get with modulator and one easier-to-get without but with
them both having the same interface.

Failing that there's the VCR or modulator routes that other posters have
referred to.

Paul DS.


Dave Plowman (News)

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:44:13 AM7/26/07
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In article <1185420961.1...@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

FCS <sipst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Anybody know of any freeview boxes that have an RF out with the
> > freeview channels on it . As opposed to a RF Loop through. My poor old
> > telly (but working very well thank you) does not have a SCART
> > socket... Thanks

> I got around this by hooking it up through
> a VCR with a SCART and taking the feed off
> its RF out. Should be easy enough to find,
> car boot sale or whatever. The VCR itself?
> A 1986 Freguson bog standard model.

If you need to buy something to use with a 'standard' FreeView box surely
an RF modulator is a neater solution than a VCR - unless you actually want
a VCR too? Maplin etc sell them as do the sheds for use with a security
camera.

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Owain

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Jul 26, 2007, 6:12:57 AM7/26/07
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> If you need to buy something to use with a 'standard' FreeView box surely
> an RF modulator is a neater solution than a VCR - unless you actually want
> a VCR too? Maplin etc sell them as do the sheds for use with a security
> camera.

But they cost more than a freeview box, whereas VCRs can probably be
picked up from skips nowadays.

Owain


Ian Jackson

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Jul 26, 2007, 7:10:06 AM7/26/07
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In message <118544695...@proxy02.news.clara.net>, Owain
<owain...@stirlingcity.coo.uk> writes
And a VCR can also be used as a VCR.
Ian.
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Ian

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Jul 26, 2007, 8:11:08 AM7/26/07
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In message <LAyZirAO...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk>, Ian Jackson
<IanJacksonR...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> writes
...and a VCR that's been sent to the loft, under the stairs etc.,
because of mechanical failure can have a new lease of life.
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Ian

Ian

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Jul 26, 2007, 8:13:50 AM7/26/07
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In message <5gr2kvF...@mid.individual.net>, Max Demian
<max_d...@bigfoot.com> writes

Also, a Google search for the Thomson would be sensible before buying
one.
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Paul D.Smith

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Jul 26, 2007, 9:06:47 AM7/26/07
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> ...and a VCR that's been sent to the loft, under the stairs etc., because
> of mechanical failure can have a new lease of life.

...and my wife complains about _my_ hoarding ;-).

Paul DS


Dave Plowman (News)

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Jul 26, 2007, 9:16:48 AM7/26/07
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In article <118544695...@proxy02.news.clara.net>,

Owain <owain...@stirlingcity.coo.uk> wrote:
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > If you need to buy something to use with a 'standard' FreeView box
> > surely an RF modulator is a neater solution than a VCR - unless you
> > actually want a VCR too? Maplin etc sell them as do the sheds for use
> > with a security camera.

> But they cost more than a freeview box,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ILS102-MODULATOR-ALLOWS-SCART-SOCKET/dp/B000M6SMKW

is one out of many. Pretty certain I saw them in Lidl for under a tenner.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jul 26, 2007, 9:12:27 AM7/26/07
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In article <118544695...@proxy02.news.clara.net>,

Fine if you like junk in your living room.

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Geo

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Jul 26, 2007, 11:43:13 AM7/26/07
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:36:01 -0700, FCS <sipst...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>Otherwise, there is a market there, for RF
>boxes really isn't there? SCART in->RF out
>and all that concerned mumbling, about the
>surge of old kit that'll be jettisoned in
>2010 evaporates in a puff of £15 gadgetry.

CPC has one for £10.35 (+VAT= £12.16)
Order Code: AV1278002

http://tinyurl.com/23rkeo

Geo

Ivan

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Jul 26, 2007, 12:01:32 PM7/26/07
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"Geo" <9w0b...@disposable.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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> Odd that the description doesn't say anything about the output range, or
> look as though there is any way preseting it (buttons or LCD), other than
> maybe with a screwdriver, which could indicate a limited output range.

> Geo

Geo

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Jul 26, 2007, 3:10:28 PM7/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:01:32 GMT, "Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>> Odd that the description doesn't say anything about the output range, or
>> look as though there is any way preseting it (buttons or LCD), other than
>> maybe with a screwdriver, which could indicate a limited output range.
>

Their sales sheet says:-

"Scart socket
RF In/Out
Output channel 36, PAL B, G/I (switchable)
Power supply 230V AC 50Hz"

Not sure what the "RF In" bit means (if anything) or if the (switchable) refers
to the output channel as well as the PAL standard...

Geo

Lurch

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Jul 26, 2007, 3:38:23 PM7/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:10:28 GMT, Geo
<9w0b...@disposable.spamcon.org> mused:

>On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:01:32 GMT, "Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>> Odd that the description doesn't say anything about the output range, or
>>> look as though there is any way preseting it (buttons or LCD), other than
>>> maybe with a screwdriver, which could indicate a limited output range.
>>
>Their sales sheet says:-
>
>"Scart socket
>RF In/Out
>Output channel 36, PAL B, G/I (switchable)
>Power supply 230V AC 50Hz"
>
>Not sure what the "RF In" bit means (if anything)

Well, I would imagine it would be the RF input, think the clue is in
the question. It will be so that the modulated signal can be added to
an existing feed, so 5 terrestrial analogue channels in, 6 out.

>. or if the (switchable) refers


>to the output channel as well as the PAL standard...
>
>

I would imagine if it did the channel would say '21-68' or similar
rather than just '36'. The switchable bit appears to be the PAL
region.
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Ivan

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:00:46 PM7/26/07
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"Lurch" <myrea...@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well if the output 'channel' is fixed at '36' then I would give it a wide
berth, where I am the only channel guaranteed to be completely free of some
kind of interference is channels 69.

> Regards,
> Stuart.

Lurch

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:23:45 PM7/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:00:46 GMT, "Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.co.uk>
mused:

Not sure if guaranteed would be my choice of word, unlikely to be
subject to would be better. ;)
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Regards,
Stuart.

Ivan

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Jul 26, 2007, 4:43:17 PM7/26/07
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"Lurch" <myrea...@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well I probably should have qualified that by saying, 'for the time being at
least' :o(
> Regards,
> Stuart.

Geo

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Jul 26, 2007, 5:15:06 PM7/26/07
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:23 +0100, Lurch <myrea...@sjwelectrical.co.uk>
wrote:

>Well, I would imagine it would be the RF input, think the clue is in
>the question. It will be so that the modulated signal can be added to
>an existing feed, so 5 terrestrial analogue channels in, 6 out.

I was thinking baseband video and audio in (from freeview box) and modulated RF
out - had not considered that it was for /adding/ a channel to an incoming RF
source.

Geo

Owain

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Jul 26, 2007, 12:55:11 PM7/26/07
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Fine if you like junk in your living room.

It's not junk. It's retro.

Owain


Dave Plowman (News)

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Jul 26, 2007, 7:51:37 PM7/26/07
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In article <118548573...@iris.uk.clara.net>,

Owain <owain...@stirlingcity.coo.uk> wrote:
> > Fine if you like junk in your living room.

> It's not junk. It's retro.

Ok. If it's a Ferguson, retro junk.

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TrevM

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Jul 27, 2007, 6:10:40 PM7/27/07
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"billybob" <bill...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody know of any freeview boxes that have an RF out with the freeview
> channels on it . As opposed to a RF Loop through.
> My poor old telly (but working very well thank you) does not have a SCART
> socket...
> Thanks
>

Has your old telly got phono input sockets for audio & video, by any chance?
I've seen some pre-SCART tellies with them, usually accessed via an AV
button. Freeview boxes usually have red & white stereo audio phonos and a
yellow phono outlet for video - not exactly HD quality, but fine for a
pre-SCART telly, and at least as good as a cheap modulator, I think. Just a
thought.


David W.E. Roberts

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Jul 28, 2007, 3:41:44 PM7/28/07
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"Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just passing through on the way to the pub, but isn't channel 69 reserved
for the Dutch?


Ivan

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Jul 28, 2007, 4:15:20 PM7/28/07
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"David W.E. Roberts" <nos...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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Well I'm on about my third glass of G&T and i've just noticed that in my
original post the number is upside down and should of course have read
channel '69'.

Lurch

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Jul 28, 2007, 10:53:54 PM7/28/07
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:10:40 +0100, "TrevM" <nos...@nowhere.com>
mused:

>
>"billybob" <bill...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:GKmdnaye_93...@bt.com...
>> Anybody know of any freeview boxes that have an RF out with the freeview
>> channels on it . As opposed to a RF Loop through.
>> My poor old telly (but working very well thank you) does not have a SCART
>> socket...
>> Thanks
>>
>
>Has your old telly got phono input sockets for audio & video, by any chance?
>I've seen some pre-SCART tellies with them, usually accessed via an AV
>button. Freeview boxes usually have red & white stereo audio phonos and a
>yellow phono outlet for video

Or but a SCART to phono lead as most boxes don't have individual phono
connections on them.
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Stuart.

widgitt

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Jul 29, 2007, 6:37:54 AM7/29/07
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> Or but a SCART to phono lead as most boxes don't have individual phono
> connections on them.

The better ones do.

For all that, why not just get one with a mudulator built in? Although
I think Humaxes are the best, there are quite a few cheaper ones with
modulators. If you can find a Linsar, they have. They have the usual
Vestel menus like so many others. It seems that Vestel use the same
basic format and then include all the required extras (second scart,
modulator etc) to suit the particular brand names' requirements.
Hundreds of different brand names use them.

Roderick Stewart

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Jul 29, 2007, 10:08:26 AM7/29/07
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In article <1185705474.8...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Widgitt wrote:
> For all that, why not just get one with a mudulator built in?

Let me guess, a "mudulator" is what they use on digital radio to give
it that special sound?

Rod.

widgitt

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Jul 29, 2007, 7:04:31 PM7/29/07
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> Widgitt wrote:
> > For all that, why not just get one with a mudulator built in?
>
> Let me guess, a "mudulator" is what they use on digital radio to give
> it that special sound?
>
> Rod.

Sorry about the typo, but you are quite right. I'll have to remember
that one!

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