Rusty 'Sky' dish
Tim Jones
find that it has already gone quite rusty, even though all the
‘official’ Sky dishes in this area (even those that have been up for
years) are fine.
I would like to replace it, so as to avoid continual repainting, but how
can I tell if a replacement dish won’t go rusty? Are Sky dishes made of
aluminium? Is there a recommended manufacturer or source?
Grateful for any advice.
Twitto
These are horrible, cheap, rust-prone things that cost Sky only about
£3 and are designed so that you have to keep replacing them at the
cost of a call-out. Here, where we have wind-blown salt spray off the
sea they last for an average of 2.7 years. So I invested in a
galvanised dish guaranteed for 10 years, about £150 installed by a
private contractor. Well worth it.
Brian Gaff
there seems to be some disagreement here. One thing to watch for is location
and the design or lack of maintenance of the building its on.
If, for example the drips from some dodgy gutter or window box comes
straight to the dish, its likely not to last long, so anything else shoved
in that place stands a fair chance of the same fate.
It might be worth inspecting any new dish and getting some proper paint
that can protect it on there as soon as its set up in any case.
When you say the dish is rusty, I assume you mean the metal support and
the arm holding the lnb. I think most of the dishes around here seem to be
made of some sort of plastic.
Brian
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Petert
<timj...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Does the dish still work OK - i.e. are you still able to receive a
good signal at your STB?
If so, treat it as you would your garage door - paint it - far cheaper
than replacing it :-)
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Peter
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> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:59:11 +0100, Tim Jones
>
Yes, there's no reason why you shouldn't get the rust off (you can buy
that chemical stuff from motoring shops) then paint it. If you replace
it you could paint the new one.
Bill
Tim Jones
other dishes around here, as it is under the eves and in a 12 ft
alleyway to the next house. About a third of the dish is rusty. This
hasn’t affected reception, but the wife is not best pleased with the
look of the thing (to put it mildly).
The eBay seller described it as a Sky dish, but as there was no
branding whatsoever on the packaging I was wondering if it was just a
cheapo tin copy. Perhaps the official dishes simply have more paint on
them. Anyway, I’ll try a clean-up and coat of paint, and see how that goes.
Thanks again.
Adrian C
>
> The eBay seller described it as a Sky dish, but as there was no branding
> whatsoever on the packaging I was wondering if it was just a cheapo tin
> copy. Perhaps the official dishes simply have more paint on them.
> Anyway, I’ll try a clean-up and coat of paint, and see how that goes.
Then apply wax?
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Ivan
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Or maybe aerosol smooth dark grey Hammerite?
Tim Jones
I thought of Hammerite, but doesn't this contain metal, and so likely to
interfere with reception?
Ivan
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I have used ordinary aerosol spray paint without any apparent adverse
effects (and that's why I included the question mark) however to be absolute
be honest, I would be surprised if it did.
James
"Tim Jones" <timj...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
Buy another new one, but after you install it paint it with a thin coat of
WaxOyl. It will last for years and years.
Doctor D
"Tim Jones" <timj...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> Thanks for the advice guys. If anything, the dish is less exposed than
> other dishes around here, as it is under the eves and in a 12 ft alleyway
> thing (to put it mildly).
>
> The eBay seller described it as a Sky dish, but as there was no branding
> whatsoever on the packaging I was wondering if it was just a cheapo tin
> copy. Perhaps the official dishes simply have more paint on them.
>
> Thanks again.
I bought a dish off Ebay about 5 years ago for about �12 including the LNB.
When it arrived it was a Raven dish and has been excellent for my parent's
"freeSky" and looks as good as new despite 5 years in the Welsh rural
climate!
My own dish here was on the house when we moved in some six years ago and
although unbranded and a dull matt grey colour, it shows no sign of rust. I
wonder if you've just got a rogue dish with an insufficient paint covering?
New dishes are pretty cheap, and I'd be tempted to replace it rather than
messing about rubbing down and painting it.
Peter Chant
>
> I thought of Hammerite, but doesn't this contain metal, and so likely to
> interfere with reception?
I'd doubt if it would matter, the disk itself is a reflector. As long as
you are not painting the LNB.
Pete
Chas Gill
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>
>
> "wrights...@aol.com" <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote in message
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>> On Apr 24, 11:35 am, Petert <peter.thomas8...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:59:11 +0100, Tim Jones
>>>
>>> <timjo...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> >find that it has already gone quite rusty, even though all the
>>> >years) are fine.
>>>
>>> >I would like to replace it, so as to avoid continual repainting, but
>>> >how
>>> >aluminium? Is there a recommended manufacturer or source?
>>>
>>> >Grateful for any advice.
>>>
>>> Does the dish still work OK - i.e. are you still able to receive a
>>> good signal at your STB?
>>>
>>> If so, treat it as you would your garage door - paint it - far cheaper
>>> than replacing it :-)
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> (Reply to address is a spam trap - pse reply to the group)
>>
>> Yes, there's no reason why you shouldn't get the rust off (you can buy
>> that chemical stuff from motoring shops) then paint it. If you replace
>> it you could paint the new one.
>>
>
> Or maybe aerosol smooth dark grey Hammerite?
>
>
attended - I won't bore you with the reasons why - and he insisted on
replacing my old dish with a new one "because it had gone matt and this
reduces the efficiency of the dish". I didn't challenge this because it was
costing me nothing except a bit of a mess where new holes were drilled into
the brickwork but it did strike me as a bit odd that an essentially metal
reflector will work better if the paint on it is
shiny.............................?
Chas
Peter Duncanson
<Chas...@gollum.btinternet.com> wrote:
>When I recently upgraded to Sky+HD 1TB (?) the installer's manager also
>attended - I won't bore you with the reasons why - and he insisted on
>replacing my old dish with a new one "because it had gone matt and this
>reduces the efficiency of the dish". I didn't challenge this because it was
>costing me nothing except a bit of a mess where new holes were drilled into
>the brickwork but it did strike me as a bit odd that an essentially metal
>reflector will work better if the paint on it is
>shiny.............................?
>
Would they have been able to charge extra for replacing the dish and
thereby making some extra money?
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Brian Mc
: These are horrible, cheap, rust-prone things that cost Sky only about
: £3 and are designed so that you have to keep replacing them at the
: cost of a call-out.
But he just said that it *WAS NOT* a genuine Sky dish!!!!!! Just one off
eBay which was far more prone to rust than the Sky ones.
Borg
Tony
> Tim Jones wrote:
>
>> I thought of Hammerite, but doesn't this contain metal, and so likely to
>> interfere with reception?
>
> I'd doubt if it would matter, the disk itself is a reflector. As long as
> you are not painting the LNB.
>
> Pete
>
protecting against rust. Cars get a very hard life as far as rust goes
and hammerite is frowned upon. I can say from experience it does not
work at protecting against rust for any useful length of time, 6 months
at best.
A galvanised (hot dip, not electroplated) dish will last the longest,
preferably painted aswell.
As for protection or repainting, you could use galvanising paint such as
Zinga (96% zinc), but this will form a new dish (as it is conductive)
and unless you spray it, it may affect the S/N from the dish due to the
irregularities of brushing. However rust doesn't seem to affect it much
so maybe it doesn't matter. Zinga, or Galvanised surfaces can be top
coated after using an etch primer.
If you really want to do the job properly you have to strip all the
paint and rust off, and re-coat with at least zinc electroplate, primer
and a good top coat. However the rust may have caused pitting and that
again may cause problems with S/N.
Internal rustproofing material like waxol may not stand up to UV,
regular rain washing and may also collect dirt.
Frankly there are no easy answers and hopefully you can see that
re-coating a dish takes many stages and alot of hard work, if a new dish
cost £60 I would go for that. You are not going to do much good with a
brush and a pot of paint alone.
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Tony
Brian Mc
: The two are not mutually exclusive; I'm sure it's possible to by the
: genuine dishes from eBay too.
Most certainly� But as other dishes in his area which HAD been installed by
Sky were *NOT* rusting it was a fair guess that it was a cheap copy!
Certainly more probable than immediately slagging off the quality of all Sky
dishes!
Chas Gill
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I assumed at the time that they bill Sky for all "necessary" work done and
that this little "extra" would have been added on. I paid nothing more than
the standard install fee.
widgitt
flimsier they are.
The older centre-mounted type are very strong and mount solidly. You
can tell them, apart from the centre rear mounting on an L shaped
tubular bracket, by the smaller (or rather,thinner) arm for the lnb.
Dont assume that letting them change one of those for a new one is
doing you any favours. The newer ones with a sideways rear arm which
"swings" are much flimsier and logic says that they cannot be mounted
rigidly. A strong wind or an accidental knock will almost certainly
knock them off beam even if the installer did bother to tighten the
bolts.
The main reason that they change them is that newer LNBs supplied by
Sky do not have the small plastic adaptor supplied to allow them to
fit the older dishes. I wouldn't be supprised if the installer can
claim more on a call-out if they change the dish as well.
Triax make a range of fibreglass dishes which are not that cheap but
they will stand almost any weather conditions.
ian field
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Hammerite is highly reccomended.
Last time I looked, Morrisons had small tins easily enough to coat a dish in
metallic silver.
Light of Aria
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I've still got a working 20 year old original Astra 19.2 dish on my house
picking up the German and European channels with a receiver that has been on
for 11 years!
J G Miller
> I've still got a working 20 year old original Astra 19.2 dish on my
> house picking up the German and European channels with a receiver that
> has been on for 11 years!
As it is presumably a fixed dish, you really should fit a monoblock
so that you can get the stations from Hotbird 13 East as well.
fred
<4c037922-3300-4128...@y30g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
widgitt <pra...@btinternet.com> writes
galvanised so hopefully it will last a bit longer. I'll report back in
20 years.
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