Axe BBC2 and C4 Analogue NOW!
Axe BBC2 and C4 Now
their channel locations at full power.
Only then will digital take off. Aerial uprades are a waste of time.
Otherwise goodbye DTT
Aztech
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> Axe BBC2 and C4 analogue now so that the two FTA muxs could be moved to
> their channel locations at full power.
And what for the 60m PAL sets out there? Tough? If we're being so facetious then
why not just kill C5, their frequencies are clear right across the UK, you could
have 3 or 4 national SFN's.
Az.
Nigel Feltham
> Axe BBC2 and C4 analogue now so that the two FTA muxs could be moved to
> their channel locations at full power.
>
> Only then will digital take off. Aerial uprades are a waste of time.
Only Then will the government lose the next election and have parliament
burnt to the ground by angry analogue-only viewers,
Stuart
>
All very well, but what are you going to put on a FTA MUX???
Are there any more decent free-to-air channels? No
Is there enough advertising to soley support loads more FTA channels? No
Are MUXs full of shopping and God channels really the future of DTT? No
Stephen Neal
Axe BBC2 and C4 Now wrote in message
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More sensible idea would be to increase the FEC, and reduce the data rate on
the existing muxes. Fewer services broadcast with a lower data rate, but
with a more robust transmission system?
Is there any benefit - in frequency allocation and power terms - to
reducing the number of Muxes from 6 to 4? That might make also make sense?
Steve
Neil
>
> Are there any more decent free-to-air channels? No
Yeah there is :-
TCM (Movies)
Boomerang (Cartoons)
Sky News (News)
Motors TV (Excellent up & comming channel from France)
Extreme Sports (Sports)
Einstein TV (Documentrys)
There's 1 Mux worth & I'm sure theres more.
James Hart
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> > All very well, but what are you going to put on a FTA MUX???
> >
> > Are there any more decent free-to-air channels? No
>
> Yeah there is :-
>
> TCM (Movies)
> Boomerang (Cartoons)
> Sky News (News)
> Motors TV (Excellent up & comming channel from France)
> Extreme Sports (Sports)
> Einstein TV (Documentrys)
I'm told there's a lot of motorsport stuff on Motors TV (oddly enough), is
it a Sky job or is it on another satellite?
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>I'm told there's a lot of motorsport stuff on Motors TV (oddly enough), is
>it a Sky job or is it on another satellite?
It's on Sky - channel 416... watching it now, and the Toyota Atlantic's
excellent! ;-)
cheltspy
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>
> Only Then will the government lose the next election and have parliament
> burnt to the ground by angry analogue-only viewers,
I do think at least 1 mux should carry BBC1,2, ITV,C4,C5 and should be
inside the grouping of aerial group of and simuliar power to the analogue
services.
Take my area cheltenham we lost all our fta muxs on our comunial aerial
because they moved them last year outside the aerial group. I do have a
digital tv but now cannot receive any digital services because of this.
People just don't want to pay to have aerials upgraded. I went cable anyway
it was cheaper .
Holden McGroin
> it a Sky job or is it on another satellite?
Recently launched on Sky.
Cheers,
Holden
Holden McGroin
> their channel locations at full power.
>
> Only then will digital take off. Aerial uprades are a waste of time.
Here's my digital roadmap:
- switch off Channel 5 analogue in 2008
- switch off BBC2/Channel 4 analogue in 2010
- switch off BBC1/ITV analogue in 2012
- minimum average bandwidth of 5 Mbps per channel
- maximum of 4 video channels per multiplex
- no pay services
- further 12 channels (4/multiplex) to be auctioned off individually
- increase error correction rates
- increase signal strength many times over
- INFORM THE PUBLIC
That's my idea anyway. Think it'd get analogue switched off by 2012?
Cheers,
Holden
Stuart
Stevie Boy
"> That's my idea anyway. Think it'd get analogue switched off by 2012?
>
> Cheers,
> Holden
>
I think digital stations will have to b FREE or stinkingly cheap b4
considering to sw off analogue and of course have 100% coverage over the
country at sufficently high signal levels not to b a problem.
People WILL still own analogue sets then and u can b rest assured of an
outcry if people r forced to fork out for a STB/installation AND FEE.
U have to consider that a huge majority of people r satisfied with analogue
which gives trouble free results these days ( u cant say the same for
digital).
Steve
Martin Imber
And then drop channels per MUX to 3, up the power and up MUX amount
I'm ready!
Aztech
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> Axe all analogue now!
>
> And then drop channels per MUX to 3, up the power and up MUX amount
>
> I'm ready!
Shame all the other 60m PAL sets aren't.
Az.
Simon Pocock
"Simon Gardner" <66...@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote in message
news:B8F4EF3B9...@hack.powernet.co.uk...
> In article <VyFz8.723$xa.7...@news8-gui.server.ntli.net>,
> "Holden McGroin" <hol...@mcgroin.com> wrote:
>
> > Here's my digital roadmap:
> >
> > - switch off Channel 5 analogue in 2008
> > - switch off BBC2/Channel 4 analogue in 2010
> > - switch off BBC1/ITV analogue in 2012
> > - minimum average bandwidth of 5 Mbps per channel
> > - maximum of 4 video channels per multiplex
> > - no pay services
> > - further 12 channels (4/multiplex) to be auctioned off individually
> > - increase error correction rates
> > - increase signal strength many times over
> > - INFORM THE PUBLIC
> >
> > That's my idea anyway.
>
>
> Switch off DTT. Leave multi-channel to DSAT and cable.
>
> Alter planning law
>
> Leave analogue well alone for next 30 years.
>
No, switch off analogue. I won't miss it because I can't get a watchable
signal where I am but digital is almost perfect most of the time.
--
Simon.
Aztech
<snip>
> No, switch off analogue. I won't miss it because I can't get a watchable
> signal where I am but digital is almost perfect most of the time.
Wow... I'm glad the whole of the UK is in the exact same predicament.
Az.
Martin Imber
My digital is much better than my analogue!
Holden McGroin
> considering to sw off analogue and of course have 100% coverage over the
> country at sufficently high signal levels not to b a problem.
> People WILL still own analogue sets then and u can b rest assured of an
> outcry if people r forced to fork out for a STB/installation AND FEE.
>
> U have to consider that a huge majority of people r satisfied with analogue
> which gives trouble free results these days ( u cant say the same for
> digital).
There will be a time when digital TV replaces analogue TV. Digital TV can be better quality than analogue PAL if done correctly (it
isn't being done correctly, i've previously given my roadmap to ensure it's done correctly). It's utterly wasteful to have two
television systems running side by side and I think the purpose of having an attainable (i.e. not 2006) switch-off date is a good
purpose.
Cheers,
Holden
Paul
> In article <2XvB8.5410$LI2.8...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> "Holden McGroin" <hol...@mcgroin.com> wrote:
>
>> There will be a time when digital TV replaces analogue TV.
>
> Or not. As the case may be.
I'm undecided on this one. Should analogue get switched off, we have one
STB and I'd have no problem buying a couple more FTA boxes (at say £5 each)
for our portable TVs and VCR in bedrooms, but I will the signal strength
ever be high enough to receive a picture through a loop aerial?
Also, the UK now has digital radio - we also have FM, not to mention LW,
MW, SW, CB etc. so why not keep both.
Otherwise, maybe DTTV should be scrapped and DTV just supplied through
satellite and cable (planning regs would have to change for "listed" houses
to allow a dish).
--
Paul
_matt_cook_
"Aztech" <a...@tech.com> wrote in message
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But I think they would be rather quick! A rather unpopular move though - it
could easily bring down the government that attempted it.
Chris
"Paul" <ne...@ehteam.screaming.net> wrote in message
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> On Monday 06 May 2002 4:29 pm, Simon Gardner wrote:
>
> > In article <2XvB8.5410$LI2.8...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> > "Holden McGroin" <hol...@mcgroin.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There will be a time when digital TV replaces analogue TV.
> >
> > Or not. As the case may be.
>
> I'm undecided on this one. Should analogue get switched off, we have one
> STB and I'd have no problem buying a couple more FTA boxes (at say £5
each)
> for our portable TVs and VCR in bedrooms, but I will the signal strength
> ever be high enough to receive a picture through a loop aerial?
The signal strength is already high enough where I live (London area) to
receive all multiplexes in perfect quality using a loop aerial.
Jamie Jones
Paul <ne...@ehteam.screaming.net>
wrote in newsgroup uk.tech.digital-tv:
> Otherwise, maybe DTTV should be scrapped and DTV just supplied through
> satellite and cable (planning regs would have to change for "listed" houses
> to allow a dish).
To look at it from the other angle, maybe installers should be made
to be more responsible for neat installs.
Television aerials look ugly too when shoved on the front wall, just above
the ground floor window!
My dishes are pretty much invisible.
My next door neigbours have a minidish on the same mast that holds their TV
aerial, and from the ground it is less obtrusive than the aerial itself is!
Fundamentally, a TV aerial is much more of an eyesore - it's just that people
are more acceptable of them, and they are usually kept in a more discreet
position (although usually out of technical reasons rather than asthetic)
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