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Marky P

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Apr 2, 2008, 2:23:51 PM4/2/08
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I downloaded Ashes To Ashes yesterday and thought I'd see what
downloaded programmes were like on my plasma telly. I wired it up
using HDMI, and the quality was surprisingly good. The only thing was
that even on full screen, there were still narrow black bars top &
bottom causing the picture to look slightly stretched horizontally.
Also, downloading an hours programme take me nearly 3 hours!
Streaming seems to keep stuttering. Don't think my broadband
connection is that good.

Marky P.

the dog from that film you saw

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Apr 2, 2008, 1:36:00 PM4/2/08
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"Marky P" <bromham_ho...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I downloaded Ashes To Ashes yesterday and thought I'd see what
> downloaded programmes were like on my plasma telly. I wired it up
> using HDMI, and the quality was surprisingly good. The only thing was
> that even on full screen, there were still narrow black bars top &
> bottom causing the picture to look slightly stretched horizontally.


sounds like a resolution issue - is your pc outputting the native res of
your tv? - if it's outputting a non 16:9 resolution that could explain your
problem.


Gareth


Marky P

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Apr 2, 2008, 3:19:06 PM4/2/08
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The PC image fills the entire screen at the correct ratio. It's only
on the iplayer when I get the black bars.

Marky P.

the dog from that film you saw

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Apr 2, 2008, 4:10:56 PM4/2/08
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"Marky P" <bromham_ho...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>sounds like a resolution issue - is your pc outputting the native res of
>>your tv? - if it's outputting a non 16:9 resolution that could explain
>>your
>>problem.


>>


> The PC image fills the entire screen at the correct ratio. It's only
> on the iplayer when I get the black bars.

that used to happen to me when i had the pc output to tv set as 1280x768 -
those extra 48 pixels were left black in order to keep the correct aspect
ratio even though when not playing video the screen was filled.
once i told the pc to force a 720p output that stopped.


Gareth.


Marky P

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Apr 3, 2008, 8:09:55 AM4/3/08
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Mines set on 1440x900, which is the same as my monitor. Any higher
and I get a smaller picture. I'll fiddle with it.

Marky P.

Ron Lowe

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Apr 3, 2008, 12:15:40 PM4/3/08
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"Marky P" <bromham_ho...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well, there you go.
Your monitor is not 16:9, it's 16:10.
Fitting 19:9 material without distortion will only use 1440x810, leaving 90
blank lines ( 45 top and bottom. )

There's nothing wrong with what you are seeing.
There's nothing more to be done.
You are watching 16:9 material on a 16:10 monitor.

For the PC desktop, your PC outputs a 16:10 desktop image which fills it in
the correct aspect ratio.

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Ron

Ron Lowe

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Apr 3, 2008, 12:44:53 PM4/3/08
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Of course, it's possible that the screen *is* physically 16:9, but the pixel
aspect ratio is not ( ie non-square pixels. )
My brother has a 42in plasma which is 16:9 ( ish, not measured it ), but a
pixel resolution of 1024x768. ( 4:3 ).
This ugly mess is quite common.

Displaying from PC is just a bad joke on this monitor.

PCs basically assume square pixels.
So setting a resolution of 1024x768 produces 1:1 pixel mapping, but horribly
stretched desktop.

With the analog VGA connector, setting a 16:9 resolution on the PC gives the
correct aspect ratio, but produces a horrible over- or under-scanned image.
It's basically down to the video processing in the plasma screen to re-map
the presented 16:9 data into 1024x768 non-square pixels. And I can tell
you the processing in the plasma sucks big time. There's simply no way to
get a 16:9 image which fills the screen and is not distorted.

If we use the DVI - HDMI connector on the PC, and set the PC to HDTV:720p,
then the video card produces the same output we would expect from a Blu-Ray
player. The screen correctly identifies it as 720p, and the aspect ratio is
correct, but again is horribly over-scanned. The start button etc is not
visible on the screen, for example. There's no control of the over-scan.
There's no 'autoset' button to force it to have another go at re-scaling.
I'd have expected it to be able to map the digital 16:9 image correctly to
it's 4:3 panel, but Noooooo.

I can only assume that if he got a blu-ray player, it would also produce
horribly over-scanned pictures.

Basically, the video processing on this panasonic plasma is just horrible.

When I eventually get round to buying a fancy telly, I will want to see it
display from a laptop or similar, because I'll want to use a HTPC at some
point. Also, it will be native 16:9 panel with 1:1 pixel mapping for 1080p.

Anyway, rant over..

You just need to play with it a bit more.
Measure the screen. Is it physically 16:9 or is it 16:10?

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Ron

Marky P

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Apr 4, 2008, 6:34:29 PM4/4/08
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I know my monitor is 16:10, and I expect the black bars on that, but
my telly is 16:9 so I thought it wouldn't have the black bars when
viewing iplayer on it.

Marky P.

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the dog from that film you saw

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"Marky P" <bromham_ho...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I know my monitor is 16:10, and I expect the black bars on that, but
> my telly is 16:9 so I thought it wouldn't have the black bars when
> viewing iplayer on it.

if you feed your tv a 16:9 resolution then you won't get them.
unless you have an incredibly old, crap graphics card you should be able to
feed a different resolution to your tv than your main pc monitor and run it
as a 2 monitor setup.

Gareth


Marky P

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Apr 5, 2008, 6:16:14 PM4/5/08
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Managed to sort it :-)
I've got the feed to my telly set to 1920x1080 and this seems to work.
I tried this setting before and got put off by the wallpaper appearing
smaller, but I dragged iplayer from monitor to telly and it fills the
screen with no black bars, so all is fine & dandy :-)

Marky P.

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