Clarkson censured for 'bit gay' car gibe
Agamemnon
Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some more
on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
perverted, but not this.
May 21, 2007
Clarkson censured for 'bit gay' car gibe
Sunday Times columnist Jeremy Clarkson is well known for his forthright
views
Nico Hines and agencies
Jeremy Clarkson, friend of the motorist and avowed enemy of political
correctness, was criticised this morning for labelling a car "a bit gay" on
television.
Clarkson was unimpressed by the Daihatsu Copen, last year. He asked a member
of the studio audience on the BBC's Top Gear programme whether he would
consider buying one. The man replied, "No, it's a bit gay" and Clarkson
added, "A bit gay, yes, very ginger beer."
Ofcom, the media watchdog, ruled this morning that there was "no
justification" for the comment.
The watchdog turned to the Oxford English Dictionary and agreed that "gay"
can be used to mean "foolish, stupid and socially inappropriate, or
disapproved of and lame". However, it ruled that in conjunction with "ginger
beer", Cockney rhyming slang for queer, Clarkson intended to criticise the
car by describing it as homosexual.
In Top Gear Magazine the review of the Daihatsu described it as a "cutie
with a folding metal roof, aimed at those with a collection of sunglasses
and co-ordinating handbags".
Ofcom said: "In this edition of Top Gear, the presenter's use of a Cockney
rhyming phrase made clear he intended to give a particular meaning to use of
the word 'gay'. This, in Ofcom's opinion, meant that the use of the word
became capable of giving offence. In the context, there was no justification
for using the word in this way."
Stonewall, the gay rights group, welcomed the decision. "We're glad to see
that Ofcom has censured Jeremy Clarkson for the use of the word gay, in what
was clearly meant in a derogatory way. Clarkson should remember in future
that he is a presenter on publicly-funded TV before making such comments and
therefore should uphold certain standards of behaviour," said Vicky Powell,
a spokeswoman.
The watchdog will take no further action as the BBC has already upheld
complaints made directly to the corporation and warned the programme's
production team not to repeat the offence.
"There was no doubt that it was being used in the sense of 'homosexual' and
was capable of giving offence," said Fraser Steel, the BBC head of editorial
complaints.
Clarkson is reported to have responded: "It wasn't a gay car - it was
actually a bit lesbian."
The BBC had stood by Clarkson in February 2006 when Stonewall released a
report accusing the Top Gear presenter of making derogatory or offensive
references to homosexuality.
In December 2005 Clarkson was accused of offending Germans by mocking the
Mini for its new owners, BMW, on Top Gear.
He suggested the car be redesigned to be quintessentially German. "Give it
trafficators that go like that," he said, flapping his arm up and down in
Nazi-style to mimic old-fashioned car indicators. He suggested the car
should also be fitted with an "A satellite navigation system that only goes
to Poland."
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article1819207.ece
the dog from that film you saw
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
> perverted, but not this.
go kiss a vicar church boy.
--
Gareth.
That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/
hulahoop
Just out of interest how would you prefer homosexuality to be
discussed on screen? Based on what I have seen you write I would
supect it is either:
a) Not at all (the Queen Victoria approach to lesbianism perhaps?)
or
b) Like Lukewarm in Porridge, non-threateningm knowing his place in
society
I imagine you sitting at your computer, puce in the face going into
incendiary overdrive at the breaking down of society by "these
homosexual deviants" (I am parphrasing how I think you might describe
them!).
I don't know whether to think of you as a troll or to feel sorry for
you, probably both
Regards
H
Agamemnon
"hulahoop" <sween...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 22, 5:03 am, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>> more
>> on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>> perverted, but not this.
>>
>> May 21, 2007
>>
>> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article18...
>
> Just out of interest how would you prefer homosexuality to be
> discussed on screen? Based on what I have seen you write I would
> supect it is either:
> a) Not at all (the Queen Victoria approach to lesbianism perhaps?)
> or
Preferably not at all. If it has to be discussed it should be done on a
scientific basis.
> b) Like Lukewarm in Porridge, non-threateningm knowing his place in
> society
>
> I imagine you sitting at your computer, puce in the face going into
> incendiary overdrive at the breaking down of society by "these
> homosexual deviants" (I am parphrasing how I think you might describe
> them!).
No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as themselves.
It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets. It is a form of
deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should not be encouraged or
condoned. The people who engage in it should be exposed for what they are,
abnormal and in need of psychiatric treatment and therapy to overcome their
urges.
Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as
> themselves. It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets. It
> is a form of deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should
> not be encouraged or condoned. The people who engage in it should be
> exposed for what they are, abnormal and in need of psychiatric
> treatment and therapy to overcome their urges.
Crikey. Did that come from you or your therapist? If the latter get him to
increase your medication.
--
*Dance like nobody's watching.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Halmyre
says...
> In article <YbKdnYNWCZTvKs_b...@eclipse.net.uk>,
> Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as
> > themselves. It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets. It
> > is a form of deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should
> > not be encouraged or condoned. The people who engage in it should be
> > exposed for what they are, abnormal and in need of psychiatric
> > treatment and therapy to overcome their urges.
>
> Crikey. Did that come from you or your therapist? If the latter get him to
> increase your medication.
>
>
No, no - applying some radius 0.7698795 Gaussian blur will fix the
problem.
--
Halmyre
jmac
idiogenogamotics.Is it just a made word ?I can't be arsed working it
out by myself.Also diogenogamosis -is that the opposite? I can see
gamosis means
reproduction but does idio mean similar-like homo?
Marnok.com
"jmac" <jonnym...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179831223.5...@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
It's basically a killfilter word, a made-up word which means you can ignore
the post.
Agamemnon
"jmac" <jonnym...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179831223.5...@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
It means pertaining to self.
zarbiface
> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
This did not happen! Only in your mind, because you're a frustrated
repressed homosexual who sees anal sex everywhere. Just come out and
do yourself a favour. You know you want to really. No one will condemn
you (and no one will be the slightest bit surprised after all your
anal sex infatuated posts).
Just be a big man and be honest to yourself.
zarbiface
> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
This did not happen! Only in your mind, because you're a frustrated
Geoff Winkless
> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>
> This did not happen!
Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
Yes, it was said in jest, but then, so was Clarkson's comment.
Geoff
Diane L.
Geoff Winkless wrote:
> zarbiface wrote:
>
>> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>>
>> This did not happen!
>
> Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
I watched the show, and I didn't see it! I saw Barrowman offer to let
that crazy American woman spank him after he'd said something
bitchy about her, but I must have blinked and missed it when he
'invited Andrew Lloyd Webber to shove his cock up his arse'. I just
assumed it was another of Aggie's homosexual fantatasies.
> Yes, it was said in jest, but then, so was Clarkson's comment.
It's a lot of fuss about nothing (the Clarkson thing) if you ask me.
It's not like anyone takes anything Clarkson says seriously.
Expecting him to be politically correct is like expecting Ken Dodd
to be Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Diane L.
Azaxyr
>
> No. They are idiogenogamotics,
That's not even a real word, you fucking retard.
> people who fuck the same sex as
> themselves. It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets. It
> is a form of deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should not
> be encouraged or condoned. The people who engage in it should be exposed
> for what they are, abnormal and in need of psychiatric treatment and
> therapy to overcome their urges.
It's quite different from fucking animals, but still abnormal and
deviant. Our society is much too accepting of it.
Ian Salsbury
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
> perverted, but not this.
*snipped*
The difference here is Clarkson was using the word "gay" in a derogatory
fashion whereas in Who and on the Ross show homosexuality has been used to
promote tolerance and in the interviewing of a gay man respectively.
zarbiface
> Geoff Winkless wrote:
> > zarbiface wrote:
>
> >> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> >>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
> >>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>
> >> This did not happen!
>
> > Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
>
> I watched the show, and I didn't see it! I saw Barrowman offer to let
> that crazy American woman spank him after he'd said something
> bitchy about her, but I must have blinked and missed it when he
> 'invited Andrew Lloyd Webber to shove his cock up his arse'. I just
> assumed it was another of Aggie's homosexual fantatasies.
Exactly. Aggy, Geoff, you imagined you saw and heard Barrowman invite
Lloyd Webber to bugger him, ok? It didn't happen.
Bill Wright
"Azaxyr" <aza...@gnews.com> wrote in message
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> Agamemnon wrote:
> It's quite different from fucking animals
Bill
marc_CH
>> Just out of interest how would you prefer homosexuality to be
>> discussed on screen?
>
> Preferably not at all.
You'd prefer it that homosexuality were not discussed on TV at all, yet
it appears to be the only subject on which you can post to Usenet. See
the small discrepancy here?
> No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as
> themselves. It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets.
Excuse me?
> It is a form of deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should not
> be encouraged or condoned. The people who engage in it should be exposed
> for what they are, abnormal and in need of psychiatric treatment and
> therapy to overcome their urges.
You're gay. *Really* gay.
--
marc
"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"
marc_CH
It's a made up word, just like all his made up nonsense. Google for the
word and all you'll find are posts from or in response to Aggy.
marc_CH
>> As a rusty old Classics student I am trying to work out
>> idiogenogamotics.Is it just a made word ?I can't be arsed working it
>> out by myself.Also diogenogamosis -is that the opposite? I can see
>> gamosis means
>> reproduction but does idio mean similar-like homo?
>
> It means pertaining to self.
Fascinating. Where did you learn this word from if you didn't just make
it up?
Agamemnon
"Diane L." <dian...@lindquist.plus.com> wrote in message
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>
> Geoff Winkless wrote:
>> zarbiface wrote:
>>
>>> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>>>
>>> This did not happen!
>>
>> Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
>
> I watched the show, and I didn't see it! I saw Barrowman offer to let
> that crazy American woman spank him after he'd said something
> bitchy about her, but I must have blinked and missed it when he
> 'invited Andrew Lloyd Webber to shove his cock up his arse'. I just
> assumed it was another of Aggie's homosexual fantatasies.
You are in denial. You know perfectly well that this obscene act happened
and because of its obscenity you can't bring yourself to accept that it
really occurred.
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
> perverted, but not this.
I didn't see John Barrowman inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to "shove his cock
up his arse" so I won't comment.
If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They certainly
don't consider anal sex perverted.
Aggay talks out of his arse. Again.
Oh, and how long have you been searching for such an article to rant about?
Pervert.
Bill Wright
"Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5bghrtF...@mid.individual.net...
> The difference here is Clarkson was using the word "gay" in a derogatory
> fashion whereas in Who and on the Ross show homosexuality has been used to
> promote tolerance and in the interviewing of a gay man respectively.
But why shouldn't we be derogatory about homosexuals? What about freedom of
speech? It's no good saying it might hurt someone's feelings because
feelings get hurt all the time. My feelings are hurt when people pass unkind
comments about people of my age group, or suggest that all northerners are
thick, or say how much they hate the English, but I would defend to the
death their right to say it.
We've lost sight of one of our fundamental freedoms, which is the right to
express our opinions and make our jokes.
Incidentally, I was asked the other days what parts I acted in plays when I
was at school and I truthfully included in my answer "Mr Justice Wargreave
in Agatha Christie's 'Ten Little Niggers'" "I was ostracised for this reply
by several persons present. I have more respect for historical accuracy and
the works of a great novelist than I have for the sensibilities of the
politically correct, so I will not distort the title of the piece to suit
them. I have a cast iron money box in the shape of the head and shoulders of
a caricature of a negro. I do not intend to take it off my mantelpiece, nor
do I intend to obfuscate when asked what it is. The item is called a 'Jolly
Nigger Bank'. In my experience the offence caused by words like 'nigger' and
'queer' is felt mostly by the politically correct prodnoses, with the
members of the 'insulted' groups rather more relaxed about it.
I've told this story on here before, but when my friend Nadim showed me his
huge new house he said "Not bad for a fucking one-legged Pakki is it?" How
we laughed.
Bill
Agamemnon
"Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself) to
underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and Ofcom
should allow this to occur.
Clarkson's comments were about the car not about gays. If the car looked gay
and queer then what is wrong with saying it? Gay means crap, and queer means
not normal.
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>
> "Diane L." <dian...@lindquist.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:4652fc3e$0$8758$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>
>> Geoff Winkless wrote:
>>> zarbiface wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>>>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>>>>
>>>> This did not happen!
>>>
>>> Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
>>
>> I watched the show, and I didn't see it! I saw Barrowman offer to let
>> that crazy American woman spank him after he'd said something
>> bitchy about her, but I must have blinked and missed it when he
>> 'invited Andrew Lloyd Webber to shove his cock up his arse'. I just
>> assumed it was another of Aggie's homosexual fantatasies.
>
> You are in denial. You know perfectly well that this obscene act happened
> and because of its obscenity you can't bring yourself to accept that it
> really occurred.
If such an act did really occur as you claim, what makes it so obscene in
your mind?
Stephen Wilson
"Bill Wright" <insertmybu...@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:f2v6ir$mt6$1...@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
> "Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5bghrtF...@mid.individual.net...
>> The difference here is Clarkson was using the word "gay" in a derogatory
>> fashion whereas in Who and on the Ross show homosexuality has been used
>> to promote tolerance and in the interviewing of a gay man respectively.
>
> But why shouldn't we be derogatory about homosexuals? What about freedom
> of speech? It's no good saying it might hurt someone's feelings because
> feelings get hurt all the time. My feelings are hurt when people pass
> unkind comments about people of my age group, or suggest that all
> northerners are thick, or say how much they hate the English, but I would
> defend to the death their right to say it.
>
> We've lost sight of one of our fundamental freedoms, which is the right to
> express our opinions and make our jokes.
There's a fine line between being humourous and being derogatory. I agree
that in some areas political correctness has gone a bit OTT. Also that there
are some people who are overly-sensitive. I do think though that it is right
to condemn people who are being obviously derogatory. And it's also right to
at least encourage people to think about what they're about to say rather
than say something that could cause offence.
Nobody likes being made fun of. And when someone is derided for something
they have absolutely no control over (skin colour, accent, whatever) I can
quite understand why they might get upset and kick up a fuss.
Agamemnon
"Stephen Wilson" <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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He was inviting someone to shove their cock up his arse. If that is not
obscene I don't know what is.
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>
> "Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5bghrtF...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>> news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over
>>> for some more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to
>>> Christians, Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider
>>> anal sex to be perverted, but not this.
>>
>> *snipped*
>>
>> The difference here is Clarkson was using the word "gay" in a derogatory
>> fashion whereas in Who and on the Ross show homosexuality has been used
>> to promote tolerance and in the interviewing of a gay man respectively.
>
> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself)
> to underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and
> Ofcom should allow this to occur.
There is a rather obvious reason why the BBC and Ofcom have not stepped in.
And that is because DW and Torchwood are not being used in the way you just
described.
> Clarkson's comments were about the car not about gays. If the car looked
> gay and queer then what is wrong with saying it? Gay means crap, and queer
> means not normal.
And his terminology may have offended some people. A man in his position
can't get away with saying anything he wants. If he says something that
causes offence, he needs to be told.
I can accept he used gay to mean crap. For most people though it still
describes someone who has a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
As does queer (hence RTD's series, Queer as Folk).
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
Inviting someone to do something is not obscene. Idiot.
Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself)
> to underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and
> Ofcom should allow this to occur.
Please seek treatment.
--
*Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery?
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Agamemnon
Inviting someone to do something obscene is obscene.
Southpaw
"Stephen Wilson" <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
I find this discussion fascinating. I didn't see the show myself (I'm afraid
watching John Barrowman interviews will turn me gay - though I'm ok with DW
and Torchwood), but there seems to be several people who did and have a
factual disagreement on what occurred. Both sides are absolutely positive
that these events did/did not happen. Surely this can be easily settled?
Anyone record the show? Did JB offer up his arse to The Great Lord Webber or
not?
Agamemnon
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4ee717a...@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <Qr2dnZX2Uf1DgM7b...@eclipse.net.uk>,
> Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
>> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself)
>> to underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and
>> Ofcom should allow this to occur.
>
> Please seek treatment.
>
You are the one who needs treatment if you think anal sex is morally
acceptable. Next you'll be inviting people to fuck animals, or in the words
of John Barrowman on the Jonathan Ross show, anything with a hole.
Agamemnon
So explain to me how the car that Jeremy Clarkson was deriding felt offended
by the words he used to describe it?
Chris Slade
> You are the one who needs treatment if you think anal sex is morally
> acceptable.
What reason do you have for thinking that anal sex is immoral? Even if done
in private between two consenting adults?
> Next you'll be inviting people to fuck animals, or in the
> words of John Barrowman on the Jonathan Ross show, anything with a hole.
That is a non-sequitur.
--
Chris
"The red line indicates the never exceed speed, VNE. You can fly this fast
or faster if you don't like having wings attached to the fuselage."
Diane L.
> "Diane L." <dian...@lindquist.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:4652fc3e$0$8758$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>
>> Geoff Winkless wrote:
>>> zarbiface wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22 May, 05:03, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>>>> inviting Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse
>>>>
>>>> This did not happen!
>>>
>>> Err, yes it did. Did you _watch_ the show?
>>
>> I watched the show, and I didn't see it! I saw Barrowman offer to let
>> that crazy American woman spank him after he'd said something
>> bitchy about her, but I must have blinked and missed it when he
>> 'invited Andrew Lloyd Webber to shove his cock up his arse'. I just
>> assumed it was another of Aggie's homosexual fantatasies.
>
> You are in denial.
I think it's very clear that *one* of us is in denial.
> You know perfectly well that this obscene act
> happened and because of its obscenity you can't bring yourself to
> accept that it really occurred.
No, you saw John Barrowman bent over the desk and *you*
immediately thought of homosexual sex. In fact, you imagined
you heard him asking Lloyd Webber to have anal sex with him.
Why you jumped to that conclusion is something you might
want to ask yourself (but you won't, because you're too
scared of the answer).
Diane L.
Ignis Fatuus
Clarkson is a man who richly deserves the epithet commencing with the
23rd letter.
I have no doubt that his views on driving have led to the deaths of
numerous road users - and caused me to cancel my standing order for
the Sunday Times at around the time that Saint Ursula was mourning the
dealt of her husband.
The two incidents were coincidental an unconnected, but link
themselves in my mind. The principal cause was his utter contempt for
those who shared the use of the reads around his newly acquired
country residence. These views convinced me that indiscriminate
drivers should face a similar Capital charge to those who
indiscriminately discharge firearms in a public place. His column
convinced me that Journalism is the oldest profession My opinion is
sincerely held.
= IF
Darren Wilkinson
> No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as
> be encouraged or condoned. The people who engage in it should be exposed
> for what they are, abnormal and in need of psychiatric treatment and
> therapy to overcome their urges.
>
Azaxyr
> I find this discussion fascinating. I didn't see the show myself (I'm afraid
> watching John Barrowman interviews will turn me gay - though I'm ok with DW
> and Torchwood), but there seems to be several people who did and have a
> factual disagreement on what occurred. Both sides are absolutely positive
> that these events did/did not happen. Surely this can be easily settled?
> Anyone record the show? Did JB offer up his arse to The Great Lord Webber or
> not?
Youtube doesn't seem to have this interview, surprisingly.
Azaxyr
>
> You are the one who needs treatment if you think anal sex is morally
> acceptable.
What if your girlfriend wanted it up the ass? Would you say No? I
realize this is not likely to happen to you, but I was speaking
hypothetically.
Andrew
>What if your girlfriend wanted it up the ass? Would you say No? I
>realize this is not likely to happen to you, but I was speaking
>hypothetically.
A ducking stool should sort her out ;-)
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>
> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself) to
> underage children.
Er, no it hasn't. Besides. Torchwood is on after the watershed.
>It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and Ofcom
> should allow this to occur.
>
Why don't you write to them and complain then, instead on whingeing on
a newsgroup? Go on. And include your word "idiogenogamosis" to give
them a real laugh.
By the way, as you hate homosexuals so much why did you sit through an
interview with John Barrowman on the Jonathan Ross Show? Surely
someone as appaled by gays as you claim to be would have turned it off
wouldn't you? Why did you watch it? You knew the bulk of the interview
wasn't going to be about Torchwood or Doctor Who, so what kept you
watching? (Apart from your perverted thoughts about him shagging
Andrew Lloyd Webber, and your nonsense claim that Lloyd Webber had an
erection. Apart from those gay fantasies, what kept you viewing?)
Darren Wilkinson
> I find this discussion fascinating. I didn't see the show myself (I'm afraid
> watching John Barrowman interviews will turn me gay - though I'm ok with DW
> and Torchwood), but there seems to be several people who did and have a
> factual disagreement on what occurred. Both sides are absolutely positive
> that these events did/did not happen. Surely this can be easily settled?
> Anyone record the show? Did JB offer up his arse to The Great Lord Webber or
> not?
>
inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to have sex with him.
The show has a gay group called Four Poofs and a Piano. Before JB and ALW came
on the american lady lied down on Johnathan Ross's table. When she left and JB &
ALW entered JB copied her and got a laugh. ALW was at one end of the table and
joked that "If we did that we'd be Seven Poofs and a Piano". There was no real
intent there.
zarbiface
>wasn't actually inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to have sex with him.
>
That's what I said.
zarbiface
> "hulahoop" <sweeney...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179825390.9...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 5:03 am, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> >> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
> >> more
> >> on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
> >> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
> >> perverted, but not this.
>
>
> >>http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article18...
>
> > Just out of interest how would you prefer homosexuality to be
> > discussed on screen? Based on what I have seen you write I would
> > supect it is either:
> > a) Not at all (the Queen Victoria approach to lesbianism perhaps?)
> > or
>
> Preferably not at all. If it has to be discussed it should be done on a
> scientific basis.
>
> > b) Like Lukewarm in Porridge, non-threateningm knowing his place in
> > society
>
> > I imagine you sitting at your computer, puce in the face going into
> > incendiary overdrive at the breaking down of society by "these
> > homosexual deviants" (I am parphrasing how I think you might describe
> > them!).
>
> No. They are idiogenogamotics, people who fuck the same sex as themselves.
> It is no different to fucking farm animals or your pets. It is a form of
> deviant masturbation like self strangulation and should not be encouraged or
> condoned. The people who engage in it should be exposed for what they are,
> abnormal and in need of psychiatric treatment and therapy to overcome their
> urges.
>
And how do you propose to round up all these "deviants" when such a
huge percentage of the population is gay? If you had the power of
authority (God forbid), what would you do?
People like you are always saying things "should not" happen. What
practical steps would you take to mould the world into what would suit
you? (Plus how would you crush the inevitable resistance?)
Don't just say "I'd make it illegal". Homosexuality was illegal for
many years but it still happened. You actively want to STOP it, so how
would you do it?
Or shouldn't you just let people be?
The Doctor
Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>
>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman inviting
>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to Christians,
>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>> perverted, but not this.
>
>up his arse" so I won't comment.
>
>If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They certainly
>don't consider anal sex perverted.
"Gay Christians, Muslims and Jews" are a contradiction in term.
>
>Aggay talks out of his arse. Again.
>
>Oh, and how long have you been searching for such an article to rant about?
>Pervert.
>
>
>
>
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Stephen Wilson
"zarbiface" <zarb...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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>
> And how do you propose to round up all these "deviants" when such a
> huge percentage of the population is gay? If you had the power of
> authority (God forbid), what would you do?
>
> People like you are always saying things "should not" happen. What
> practical steps would you take to mould the world into what would suit
> you? (Plus how would you crush the inevitable resistance?)
>
> Don't just say "I'd make it illegal". Homosexuality was illegal for
> many years but it still happened. You actively want to STOP it, so how
> would you do it?
>
> Or shouldn't you just let people be?
Aggy says a lot of things. He thinks homosexuals are deviants. The thing he
hasn't worked out yet is that not everything he believes is true. Just
because he thinks something doesn't make it so.
Lots of people have lots of opinions on lots of things. Who's right - the
Christian or the Muslim? The meat eater or the vegetarian? The Labour MP or
the Conservative MP?
No one has a monopoly on the truth. What is right or wrong depends entirely
on your personal morality. Which you can't force on others.
Stephen Wilson
"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:f2vn9g$4r0$7...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <60F4i.1385$sM1...@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
> Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>> inviting
>>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>>> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to
>>> Christians,
>>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>>> perverted, but not this.
>>
>>I didn't see John Barrowman inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to "shove his
>>cock
>>up his arse" so I won't comment.
>>
>>If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They
>>certainly
>>don't consider anal sex perverted.
>
> "Gay Christians, Muslims and Jews" are a contradiction in term.
In what way?
+tacos+
> Inviting someone to do something obscene is obscene.
Quit crossposting between rec.arts.drwho and uk.tech.digital-tv, anus boy.
I gather from the r.a.d.w posters in this thread that you have bum drumming
on the brain. It's a given that this sort of obsession is a projection.
So now you've made it clear to u.t.d-v readers that you're a repressed
fudgepacker too.
+tacos+
> So explain to me how the car that Jeremy Clarkson was deriding felt
> offended by the words he used to describe it?
Well gosh, Aggie Anus, you really do love discussing this. Since you're
asking people for explanations related to the subject, you might as well go
to alt.butt.pirate and be done with it.
Bill Wright
"Stephen Wilson" <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0JF4i.726$rW2...@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
humour is based on making generalised and deroratory observations about a
section of humanity. People should be a bit more thick skinned. Even if
individuals find a remark upsetting that isn't enough reason to restrict
freedom of speech. If you can't take it then switch off or walk out. I know
it can hurt. I've been on the receiving end.
Bosses tell employees that they are inept/lazy/unintelligent and it hurts,
but it has to happen. Teachers say the same things to pupils (albeit in the
modern meally-mouthed way). High Court judges destroy the self-esteem of the
guilty in fine style. There has always been a general presumption that we
make whatever observations are neccessary, and in the context of 'humour'
where everyone knows that remarks are generally tongue in cheek, 'necessary'
extends to jokes.
> Nobody likes being made fun of.
Of course. So what? Let's grow up a little.
>And when someone is derided for something they have absolutely no control
>over (skin colour, accent, whatever) I can quite understand why they might
>get upset and kick up a fuss.
This becomes very judgemental if you extend the argument logically, so it
falls over. How do you decide what people have control over? What about
kleptomaniacs, smokers, drug addicts, people with hobbies bordering on the
obsessive, people with accents (which can be lost with a little effort), fat
people, thin people, bad drivers, spendthrifts, and people who are scared of
mice?
Bill
marc_CH
> People like you are always saying things "should not" happen. What
> practical steps would you take to mould the world into what would suit
> you? (Plus how would you crush the inevitable resistance?)
By boring them, I suspect.
--
marc
"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"
Ian
<agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
>
>
>Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
>proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as
>
shown before the watershed.
I am also disgusted that my Granddaughter is being brainwashed on a
daily basis by some delusional morons who tell her the Universe was
created by magic.
>Clarkson's comments were about the car not about gays. If the car
>looked gay and queer then what is wrong with saying it? Gay means crap,
>and queer means not normal.
Then the bible is gay, and you are queer.
--
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Agamemnon
"Darren Wilkinson" <spamtrap@anotherspamtrap> wrote in message
news:465357f9$0$8723$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
The intent was to attempt to sanitize idiogenogamosis. Would Jonathan Ross
have been allowed to have a group on called Foor Beastialists and a Piano
and pretend that bestiality was acceptable in modern sociaety. Would he have
been allowed to put a Dog on the table and offer its anus for sex?
Agamemnon
"zarbiface" <zarb...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:1179868646....@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I would not call 6% of them huge, and only about 3% or maybe less are hard
core anal penetrators.
>If you had the power of
> authority (God forbid), what would you do?
Educate people that anal sex is a perversion just like self strangulation
and bestiality often leading to addiction and make them aware that they can
be treated for it through psychiatry and/or the removal of the prostate
gland. Make people aware that there is no such thing as sexual orientation
towards members of the same sex. All that idiogenogamosis is is a form of
masturbation. There are plenty of other ways to masturbate.
>
> People like you are always saying things "should not" happen. What
> practical steps would you take to mould the world into what would suit
> you? (Plus how would you crush the inevitable resistance?)
>
> Don't just say "I'd make it illegal". Homosexuality was illegal for
> many years but it still happened. You actively want to STOP it, so how
> would you do it?
You are talking about anal sex being illegal. Bestiality is still illegal
but is also still happens. There were even a branch of the Scottish
Judiciary called the Judoon (does the name sound familiar?) that prosecuted
people engaging in bestiality.
>
> Or shouldn't you just let people be?
Should we allow people to fuck animals?
Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
To me any consensual activity between adults in private is ok and nothing
whatsoever to do with 'morals' or any other crap you've been indoctrinated
with.
However the reason I think you should seek treatment is for your obsession
with sexual matters. Seeing threats to children etc where non exist.
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john smith
> Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>> inviting
>>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>>> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to
>>> Christians,
>>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>>> perverted, but not this.
>>
>>I didn't see John Barrowman inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to "shove his
>>cock
>>up his arse" so I won't comment.
>>
>>If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They
>>certainly
>>don't consider anal sex perverted.
>
> "Gay Christians, Muslims and Jews" are a contradiction in term.
Oh, don't you butt in with your narrow-minded Christian crap...
Agamemnon
> In article <7bSdnUon2cA...@eclipse.net.uk>,
> Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:4ee717a...@davenoise.co.uk...
>> > In article <Qr2dnZX2Uf1DgM7b...@eclipse.net.uk>,
>> > Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>> >> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
>> >> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as
>> >> oneself) to underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that
>> >> the BBC and Ofcom should allow this to occur.
>> >
>> > Please seek treatment.
>> >
>
>> You are the one who needs treatment if you think anal sex is morally
>> acceptable. Next you'll be inviting people to fuck animals, or in the
>> words of John Barrowman on the Jonathan Ross show, anything with a
>> hole.
>
> To me any consensual activity between adults in private is ok and nothing
> whatsoever to do with 'morals' or any other crap you've been indoctrinated
> with.
People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature enough
to realise what this means. This is why laws are in place in order to
protect children from being prayed on by perverts. Who can say that at 16 a
child is mature enough but at 15 years and 11 months it is not. Some people
such as the mentally ill are not mature enough at any age and since kolfilia
is a mental illness this applies to kolofiliacs too.
>
> However the reason I think you should seek treatment is for your obsession
> with sexual matters. Seeing threats to children etc where non exist.
>
I refer you to the answer I gave some moments ago.
john smith
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
What the hell is "kolofilia" when it's at home?
zarbiface
>
> > And how do you propose to round up all these "deviants" when such a
> > huge percentage of the population is gay?
>
> I would not call 6% of them huge, and only about 3% or maybe less are hard
> core anal penetrators.
>
Well I haven't done as much research on Hampstead Heath as you
obviously have so I don't know how you arrived at those figures.
> >If you had the power of
> > authority (God forbid), what would you do?
>
> Educate people that anal sex is a perversion just like self strangulation
> and bestiality often leading to addiction and make them aware that they can
> be treated for it through psychiatry and/or the removal of the prostate
> gland.
Oo-kayy.... so how do you "remove the prostrate gland" when people
think they've done no wrong? So you're going to physically detain
them?
>Make people aware that there is no such thing as sexual orientation
> towards members of the same sex.
And how do you "make" them? I think there might be a teensy amount of
resistance, don't you?
>All that idiogenogamosis is is a form of
> masturbation. There are plenty of other ways to masturbate.
>
I'm in no doubt that you're an expert on that.
>
> You are talking about anal sex being illegal. Bestiality is still illegal
> but is also still happens. There were even a branch of the Scottish
> Judiciary called the Judoon (does the name sound familiar?) that prosecuted
> people engaging in bestiality.
>
Why does your mind keep straying towards bestiality? Been watching
that pig fuck video again? You know; the one you admitted to laughing
at years ago? (Why didn't anyone remove YOUR prostrate back then?)
>
>
> > Or shouldn't you just let people be?
>
> Should we allow people to fuck animals
No. Nor children, or anyone who isn't consenting. Again, your strange
mind drifts into bestiality. Don't you find that a bit odd?
Agamemnon
"john smith" <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:IaN4i.555$lz3...@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
kolo = anus
filia = sex
kolofilia = anal sex
john smith
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
More rubbish. So you're stupid as well as illiterate?
Dom Robinson
agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM says...
>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4ee717a...@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <Qr2dnZX2Uf1DgM7b...@eclipse.net.uk>,
> > Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> >> Rubbish. Both Doctor Who and Torchwood have been used a vehicles to
> >> proselytise idiogenogamosis, (fucking people of the same sex as oneself)
> >> to underage children. It is disgusting beyond belief that the BBC and
> >> Ofcom should allow this to occur.
> >
> > Please seek treatment.
When it comes to Doctor Who, all the gay references are just crowbarred in for
no apparent reason, such as in the first of the two recent Dalek episodes in
the 1930s when the Doctor and the others were underground and trying to escape
and he said, "If we get through this, Martha, I'll give you a kiss... you too
Frank, if you like."
WTF was all that about?
> You are the one who needs treatment if you think anal sex is morally
> acceptable. Next you'll be inviting people to fuck animals, or in the words
> of John Barrowman on the Jonathan Ross show, anything with a hole.
The only trouble with anal sex is when you suggest it and the lady dons a
strap-on and says, "Ok, bend over, then".
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>
> "Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5bghrtF...@mid.individual.net...
> > The difference here is Clarkson was using the word "gay" in a derogatory
> > fashion whereas in Who and on the Ross show homosexuality has been used to
> > promote tolerance and in the interviewing of a gay man respectively.
>
> But why shouldn't we be derogatory about homosexuals? What about freedom of
> speech? It's no good saying it might hurt someone's feelings because
> feelings get hurt all the time. My feelings are hurt when people pass unkind
> comments about people of my age group, or suggest that all northerners are
> thick, or say how much they hate the English, but I would defend to the
> death their right to say it.
>
> We've lost sight of one of our fundamental freedoms, which is the right to
> express our opinions and make our jokes.
>
> Incidentally, I was asked the other days what parts I acted in plays when I
> was at school and I truthfully included in my answer "Mr Justice Wargreave
> in Agatha Christie's 'Ten Little Niggers'" "I was ostracised for this reply
Which one of the ten were you, then? :)
> by several persons present. I have more respect for historical accuracy and
> the works of a great novelist than I have for the sensibilities of the
> politically correct, so I will not distort the title of the piece to suit
> them. I have a cast iron money box in the shape of the head and shoulders of
> a caricature of a negro. I do not intend to take it off my mantelpiece, nor
> do I intend to obfuscate when asked what it is. The item is called a 'Jolly
> Nigger Bank'. In my experience the offence caused by words like 'nigger' and
> 'queer' is felt mostly by the politically correct prodnoses, with the
> members of the 'insulted' groups rather more relaxed about it.
The trouble is that a lot of members of the public have been told what to find
offensive where, in reality, they should actually learn to work things out for
themselves.
It's like when stupid councils rename Christmas as "Winterval" because they
think it upsets other religions - the same religions who tell them that it
doesn't in any way whatsoever. The councils think they're being politically
correct when, in fact, they're just being fucking morons and missing the point
entirely.
> I've told this story on here before, but when my friend Nadim showed me his
> huge new house he said "Not bad for a fucking one-legged Pakki is it?" How
> we laughed.
If only the councils were there to hear that, they might get a reality check
and learn to live in the real world like the rest of us.
Stewart Smith
>
> It's like when stupid councils rename Christmas as "Winterval"
THIS NEVER HAPPENED. It's a fantasy of the tabloids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterval
http://www.guardian.co.uk/christmas2006/story/0,,1967367,00.html
Stew
Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > And how do you propose to round up all these "deviants" when such a
> > huge percentage of the population is gay?
> I would not call 6% of them huge, and only about 3% or maybe less are
> hard core anal penetrators.
Where do you get your figures from? Personal research?
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
> strangulation and bestiality often leading to addiction and make them
> aware that they can be treated for it through psychiatry and/or the
> removal of the prostate gland. Make people aware that there is no such
> thing as sexual orientation towards members of the same sex. All that
> idiogenogamosis is is a form of masturbation.
My god you talk some shite. Which goes totally against any respected
opinion.
> There are plenty of other ways to masturbate.
I'd guess you'd know all about that.
--
*Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.
hulahoop
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, so it would have been a male dog offering itself up for
idiobibblybibbly. Why not the female of the species? Hmmmmmmm.....
Regards
H
Dave Plowman (News)
Dom Robinson <Usethe...@inthesig.com> wrote:
> When it comes to Doctor Who, all the gay references are just crowbarred
> in for no apparent reason, such as in the first of the two recent Dalek
> episodes in the 1930s when the Doctor and the others were underground
> and trying to escape and he said, "If we get through this, Martha, I'll
> give you a kiss... you too Frank, if you like."
> WTF was all that about?
Possibly humour. Not really understood in this thread.
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > To me any consensual activity between adults in private is ok and
> > nothing whatsoever to do with 'morals' or any other crap you've been
> > indoctrinated with.
> People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature
> enough to realise what this means.
Is this something to do with the love of small bears? Or soft drinks?
> This is why laws are in place in order to protect children from being
> prayed on by perverts.
Non sequitur unless you consider heterosexual conduct equally as perverted.
> Who can say that at 16 a child is mature enough but at 15 years and 11
> months it is not.
Who indeed. Which equally applies to obtaining a driving licence. Or going
to war.
> Some people such as the mentally ill are not mature enough at any age
> and since kolfilia is a mental illness this applies to kolofiliacs too.
It's apparently another word you've invented given even Google can't find
any reference to it.
Perhaps you might explain your need to use the most obscure terms rather
than ones understood by the majority? You seem quite happy using 'fuck'
elsewhere so it can't be for any sense of propriety.
--
*A day without sunshine is like... night.*
808
Try walking down the high street naked. Just make sure you keep a copy
of that speech handy for when the police arrive and force other
people's morality on you.
Owain
> The intent was to attempt to sanitize idiogenogamosis. Would Jonathan
> Ross have been allowed to have a group on called Foor Beastialists and a
> Piano and pretend that bestiality was acceptable in modern sociaety.
Possibly on Channel 4.
> Would he have been allowed to put a Dog on the table and offer its anus
> for sex?
Don't be silly. The Health & Safety Risk Assessment would have shown
there was an unacceptably high risk of the 'talent' getting bitten.
Owain
The Doctor
john smith <the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:f2vn9g$4r0$7...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <60F4i.1385$sM1...@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
>> Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>>> inviting
>>>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>>>> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to
>>>> Christians,
>>>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>>>> perverted, but not this.
>>>
>>>I didn't see John Barrowman inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to "shove his
>>>cock
>>>up his arse" so I won't comment.
>>>
>>>If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They
>>>certainly
>>>don't consider anal sex perverted.
>>
>> "Gay Christians, Muslims and Jews" are a contradiction in term.
>
>
>
>Oh, don't you butt in with your narrow-minded Christian crap...
>
>
Facts are facts.
Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
The Doctor
Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:f2vn9g$4r0$7...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <60F4i.1385$sM1...@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>,
>> Stephen Wilson <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>news:LqydncD2ueAY9s_b...@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>>> Fucking loonies. So its perfectly alright to have John Barrowman
>>>> inviting
>>>> Andrew Lloyd Weber to shove his cock up his arse and bend over for some
>>>> more on the Jonathan Ross show, as if that is not offensive to
>>>> Christians,
>>>> Muslims, Jews and the majority of the public who consider anal sex to be
>>>> perverted, but not this.
>>>
>>>I didn't see John Barrowman inviting Andrew Lloyd Webber to "shove his
>>>cock
>>>up his arse" so I won't comment.
>>>
>>>If he did, I know plenty of gay Christians, Muslims and Jews. They
>>>certainly
>>>don't consider anal sex perverted.
>>
>> "Gay Christians, Muslims and Jews" are a contradiction in term.
>
>
>
Nonosexuality is a forbidden practice is all of the aobve mentioned.
Bill Wright
"Dom Robinson" <Usethe...@inthesig.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20bd81be6...@nntp.dsl.pipex.com...
>> Incidentally, I was asked the other days what parts I acted in plays when
>> I
>> was at school and I truthfully included in my answer "Mr Justice
>> Wargreave
>> in Agatha Christie's 'Ten Little Niggers'" "I was ostracised for this
>> reply
>
> Which one of the ten were you, then? :)
I was the judge, who turned out to be . . . but I'll not spoil it for you.
Bill
zarbiface
>
> Facts are facts.
>
> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
>
All religions are for idiots though aren't they. Why would your God
make someone a homosexual then? Or is another one of his supposed
"tests"?
Let's storm the gates of heaven and charge God with crimes against
humanity.
zarbiface
>
> Facts are facts.
>
> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
>
zarbiface
>
> Facts are facts.
>
> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
>
Dave Plowman (News)
> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
Certain factions certainly do. But then certain factions call other sexual
matters taboo while others don't.
The actual Bible says little about it and the translation of the
authorised version fits in with the 'morals' of the day rather than being
strictly accurate. Or saw I heard on a Ch4 prog some years ago.
--
*Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee?
Ian
zarbiface <zarb...@volcanomail.com> writes
and a twat, and would probably be found on it's arse in an office.
--
Ian
marc_CH
> I would not call 6% of them huge, and only about 3% or maybe less are
> hard core anal penetrators.
'Hard core anal penetrators'?
> You are talking about anal sex being illegal. Bestiality is still
> illegal but is also still happens. There were even a branch of the
> Scottish Judiciary called the Judoon (does the name sound familiar?)
> that prosecuted people engaging in bestiality.
Cite.
--
marc
"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"
marc_CH
> The intent was to attempt to sanitize idiogenogamosis. Would Jonathan
> Ross have been allowed to have a group on called Foor Beastialists and a
> Piano and pretend that bestiality was acceptable in modern sociaety.
> Would he have been allowed to put a Dog on the table and offer its anus
> for sex?
Finally - more SIG material.
--
marc
"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"
"Would Jonathan Ross have been allowed to have a group on called Foor
Beastialists and a Piano and pretend that bestiality was acceptable in
modern sociaety. Would he have been allowed to put a Dog on the table
and offer its anus for sex? -- Aggy"
marc_CH
> People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature
> enough to realise what this means.
GOOGLE Search:
Your search - kolofilia - did not match any documents.
Suggestions:
* Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
* Try different keywords.
* Try more general keywords.
* Don't listen to Aggy
* Don't try and find meaning in his made-up words
Ben Bacarisse
> "zarbiface" <zarb...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179868646....@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> And how do you propose to round up all these "deviants" when such a
>> huge percentage of the population is gay?
>
> I would not call 6% of them huge,
You have *very* demanding standards. Anyone in the top 10% would
bring tears to my eyes. YMMV, of course.
> and only about 3% or maybe less are
> hard core anal penetrators.
Ah, your favourite 3%, no doubt.
--
Ben.
Agamemnon
"marc_CH" <ma...@crumhorn.org> wrote in message
news:5bj7mnF...@mid.individual.net...
> Agamemnon wrote:
>
>> People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature
>> enough to realise what this means.
>
> GOOGLE Search:
>
> Your search - kolofilia - did not match any documents.
<rene artois>YOU STUPID WOMAN!</rene artois>
Could you not see that this word was Greek.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2358685
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%23111024
>
> Suggestions:
Get yourself an education.
Stephen Wilson
Yes they are. And your narrow-minded Christian crap could never be termed as
facts.
> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
No they don't. It's only some of the more intolerant members of these
religions who think it's a sin. What is a taboo sin anyway?
Stephen Wilson
Nonosexuality? Aggy's habit of making up words must be catching.
Stephen Wilson
>
>> People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature
>> enough to realise what this means.
>
> GOOGLE Search:
>
> Your search - kolofilia - did not match any documents.
>
> Suggestions:
>
> * Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
> * Try different keywords.
> * Try more general keywords.
> * Don't listen to Aggy
> * Don't try and find meaning in his made-up words
To give him the benefit of the doubt, I also tried a Yahoo search.
We did not find results for: kolofilia. Try the suggestions below or type a
new query above.
Suggestions:
* Check your spelling.
* Try more general words.
* Try different words that mean the same thing.
* Try asking a question on Yahoo! Answers
* Make sure you've not used one of Aggy's made-up words
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>
> "marc_CH" <ma...@crumhorn.org> wrote in message
> news:5bj7mnF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Agamemnon wrote:
>>
>>> People who give their consent for kolofilia are not mentally mature
>>> enough to realise what this means.
>>
>> GOOGLE Search:
>>
>> Your search - kolofilia - did not match any documents.
>
> <rene artois>YOU STUPID WOMAN!</rene artois>
>
> Could you not see that this word was Greek.
Can you not see this is an English-speaking newsgroup? If you want to speek
Greek, go find a Greek-speaking newsgroup.
+tacos+
> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>> Could you not see that this word was Greek.
>
> Can you not see this is an English-speaking newsgroup? If you want to
> speek Greek, go find a Greek-speaking newsgroup.
Greek! Ah, light dawns. A quick search shows that "Agamemnon" has
the real name Argyros Argyrou.
Damn, it must have been tough at school being Greek *and* having a name
that sounded like Anus. That could be what this is all about. Poor
little "Anus", still screwed up by it all these years later.
Agamemnon
"Stephen Wilson" <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:tH_4i.1480$sM1...@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
Do I not detect more than a hint of racism in your statement.
You are first in line to defend the baaty men but when it come to anything
else you are a hypocrite.
Stephen Wilson
"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
Rubbish. I could start throwing a few French, German or Welsh words around
in here. I don't because the main, in fact exclusive, language used here is
English.
Everyone here understands what anal sex means. Nobody but you would use, or
understand, the word "kolofilia".
Are you trying to impress anyone with your knowledge of Greek? Perhaps you'd
do well to realise that communication works better when used to express, not
impress.
+tacos+
> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote
>
Strange that he calls *you* racist. A quick search shows that *he* is
called as racist as fuck elsewhere, as expected.
Whose national motto is: "A woman for babies, a man for pleasure",
eh?
Which nationality had their fishermen's garb adopted as the
international gay uniform, eh? Just goes to show, eh?
Poor little Anus Anos.
Dave Plowman (News)
Agamemnon <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
> > Your search - kolofilia - did not match any documents.
> <rene artois>YOU STUPID WOMAN!</rene artois>
> Could you not see that this word was Greek.
Are *you* Greek? If not why use a Greek word on an English group when
several already exist in English? Another of your peccadillos?
--
*Never test the depth of the water with both feet.*
The Doctor
Are you certain you want to do that?
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The Doctor
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <f31bgt$p3$3...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> Facts are facts.
>
>
>> Christianity, Judiasm and Islam call homosexuality a taboo sin.
>
>Certain factions certainly do. But then certain factions call other sexual
>matters taboo while others don't.
>
>The actual Bible says little about it and the translation of the
>authorised version fits in with the 'morals' of the day rather than being
>strictly accurate. Or saw I heard on a Ch4 prog some years ago.
>
Dare I start quoting anti-homosexual scripture?
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Not funny.
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