Sony Radio Repair

[Norman Wells]

I have a tiny 23 year-old Sony radio (ICF-SW1) that has developed what
appears to be a standard fault of distorted sound through the speaker
but not via headphones. All the websites I've been to seem to think
it's a capacitor problem and that they all need replacing.

It's a quality bit of kit so I'd like it repaired, but I don't have the
confidence to fiddle about with something so small and do it
successfully myself. Do I have any real alternative but to send it to
the Sony Repair Centre? I'm not sure who else does small electronic
repairs these days or where to look.

Any help gratefully received.

[Graham.]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:49:33 +0100, "Norman Wells" <h...@unseen.ac.am>
wrote:

Well worth repairing, but a professional repair would be uneconomic.

I'd start by replacing C615 & C616 both 47uF

http://www.radiomanual.info/schemi/RX/Sony_ICF-SW1_serv.pdf

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[Mark Carver]

On 17/08/2014 18:49, Norman Wells wrote:
>Do I have any real alternative but to send it to
> the Sony Repair Centre?

Don't send it there. Sony outsourced their consumer repair
function to a series of 'card swappers' quite a while ago.
At best they wouldn't have a clue how to fix it, at worst
they might attempt to fix it !


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[Jeff Layman]

On 17/08/2014 18:49, Norman Wells wrote:

I have one of these and also had the sound distortion problem (although
I only listened through earphones, so was not sure the problems were
identical, as there are comments that the sound distortion is only
through the speaker). I downloaded the service manual, and found the
repair detailed on the web (http://cc-module.com/sw1/sw1.html)

In the end I decided not to go forward with any repair as it was too
complicated, requiring replacement of surface-mount capacitors, and
there was no guarantee that something else wouldn't fail due to its age.
Note the comment here by a US company who /might/ still be doing repairs
(http://www.kiwa.com/SW1.html) "The capacitor replacement is difficult
due to the small components and the extremely tight component layout".
In any case you are looking at least $100 for a repair when shipping
costs are taken into consideration.

This radio was far ahead of its time and no other radio came even close
to its miniaturisation and reception range - and they still don't. In
the end I decided to replace it with a Roberts Ecologic, as - for
better or worse - DAB seemed to be where things were going.

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[Brian Gaff]

Most of the time, Sony just tell you you need to buy their latest version
of it which is bound to be worse as they seem not to design anything like
this themselves these days.
Brian

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[Graham.]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:48:42 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
<brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Most of the time, Sony just tell you you need to buy their latest version
>of it which is bound to be worse as they seem not to design anything like
>this themselves these days.
> Brian

I knew someone years ago with (I think) the same radio as Norman.
While it was a very good radio it was unable to resolve SSB or CW so
it didn't meet my expectations for a communication receiver.

I think I played around with a signal genny at the second I.F. as a
makeshift BFO.

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[Norman Wells]

Thanks for everyone's help on this. I'll be trying this morning to get
a gentleman of the old school, ie someone who knows what a soldering
iron is, to have a look at it. If he won't, I may be forced to have a
go myself, but it's not something I fancy. Where have all the proper
electronics guys gone?

[tony sayer]

In article <CUDIv.117160$Rg6....@fx21.fr7>, Norman Wells
<h...@unseen.ac.am> scribeth thus

I expect I could "sort" that but I just wouldn't be able to do it
commercially and make a living from it. Two way and other pro radio
comms equipment yes and nowadays just a simple repair on that sort of
thing can be around 80 quid or more trade if done by one of the bigger
firms, but that sort of price on a domestic product as good as what
that might be ?..

Don't think so sorry...
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[Norman Wells]

Maybe now I know! According to the guy I saw, you now need a licence,
extractor fans, masks, goggles and protective underwear to be allowed to
solder anything commercially, though it's OK at home in private
apparently.

It's a strange world we live in. Anyway, he knows a guy who can, so
I've left it with him.

[ZVictor1]

This may be a bit late for you but have a look at ebay item No 111435811215.
The title is Sony ICF-SW1 capacitor replacement service.
It could be what you need.

Cheers
Geoff

[Norman Wells]

Thanks for that. I'll hold it in reserve in case my little man with a
contact who has a soldering iron can't cope. �50, though, including the
P+P both ways, may be getting a bit uneconomic, as I guess all
electronic repairs now are.

I remember when half a crown would .....

[Peter Crosland]

On 20/08/2014 09:12, Norman Wells wrote:
> ZVictor1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, 17 August 2014 06:49:33 UTC-11, Norman Wells wrote:
>>
>> This may be a bit late for you but have a look at ebay item No
>> 111435811215. The title is Sony ICF-SW1 capacitor replacement service.
>> It could be what you need.
>
> Thanks for that. I'll hold it in reserve in case my little man with a

> contact who has a soldering iron can't cope. �50, though, including the

> P+P both ways, may be getting a bit uneconomic, as I guess all
> electronic repairs now are.

Considering how much worth you put on an old piece of equipment it is
dirt cheap.

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[Davey]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:39:45 +0100
Peter Crosland <g6...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 20/08/2014 09:12, Norman Wells wrote:
> > ZVictor1 wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 17 August 2014 06:49:33 UTC-11, Norman Wells wrote:
> >>
> >> This may be a bit late for you but have a look at ebay item No
> >> 111435811215. The title is Sony ICF-SW1 capacitor replacement
> >> service. It could be what you need.
> >
> > Thanks for that. I'll hold it in reserve in case my little man

> > with a contact who has a soldering iron can't cope. £50, though,

> > including the P+P both ways, may be getting a bit uneconomic, as I
> > guess all electronic repairs now are.
>
> Considering how much worth you put on an old piece of equipment it is
> dirt cheap.
>

Yes. I had an old Hacker radio that fell dead. Not having the knowledge
nor time to try and fix it, I found somebody who specialises in
repairing Hacker and Roberts radios, and paid a total of £60 to get
it working again. I know I could buy a new one for less, but this has
sentimental value, and it just looks so good. I would happily do the
same again.
But when my Goodmans receiver, of about 1975 vintage, developed a loud
hum, I was able to repair it with much help from good folks on one of
these Newsgroups, replacing lots of old capacitors on the way.

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[Johny B Good]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:12:05 +0100, "Norman Wells" <h...@unseen.ac.am>
wrote:

... buy you an OA91 diode and leave enough change for four thrupenny
lucky bags?
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[tony sayer]

In article <lt27dv$6nv$2...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>, Davey
<da...@example.invalid> scribeth thus

Yes I remember so you did get it sorted in then end then so what was the
final answer just all the caps or a few or just the one?...


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[Peter Crosland]

On 20/08/2014 14:27, Johny B Good wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:12:05 +0100, "Norman Wells" <h...@unseen.ac.am>
> wrote:
>
>> ZVictor1 wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 17 August 2014 06:49:33 UTC-11, Norman Wells wrote:
>>>
>>> This may be a bit late for you but have a look at ebay item No
>>> 111435811215. The title is Sony ICF-SW1 capacitor replacement service.
>>> It could be what you need.
>>
>> Thanks for that. I'll hold it in reserve in case my little man with a

>> contact who has a soldering iron can't cope. �50, though, including the

>> P+P both ways, may be getting a bit uneconomic, as I guess all
>> electronic repairs now are.
>>
>> I remember when half a crown would .....
>
> ... buy you an OA91 diode and leave enough change for four thrupenny
> lucky bags?

Luxury!

[Norman Wells]

Just to follow up on this, the guy has replaced the capacitors, re-soldered one IC, and returned it with the problem resolved, all for the princely sum of £25. I'm well pleased.

[war...@trailblazerbbq.com]

Norman, I have exactly the same problem as you had with your SW1. Is "your guy" likely to be able to do another one - now that he knows exactly how to do it? I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Warren

[goo...@myard.demon.co.uk]

I imagine he would, but sorry I don't actually know who did it. I took it to a computer shop who contracted it out. The shop was EDA Computers, South Road, Saffron Walden. If you can trace them online and give them a call, they're very helpful and will most likely point you in the right direction (towards Hertford if I recall). Best of luck!

[tim.b...@gmail.com]

>
> This radio was far ahead of its time and no other radio came even close
> to its miniaturisation and reception range - and they still don't. In
> the end I decided to replace it with a Roberts Ecologic, as - for
> better or worse - DAB seemed to be where things were going.
>
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> Jeff

Jeff, Have you still got the radio or have you sold it yet..?

[jeanm...@gmail.com]

Sony radio modelcmtv11ip serial no6112788. The CD door will not open. Please could you inform me of repair options? Many thanks Jean Bennett.

[Brian Gaff]

Huh?

I wonder who they think they sent this to?

Brian

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[Paul Ratcliffe]

1. A good talking to.
2. A damned good thrashing (with a piece of tree)
3. A big screwdriver
4. An even bigger hammer
5. Ask Sony (ha, ha!)
6. Bin it
7. Find somebody who fixes stuff (at a price you want to pay)
8. I don't think you quite understand newsgroups

[Indy Jess John]

On 26/02/2018 13:05, jeanm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sony radio modelcmtv11ip serial no6112788. The CD door will not open. Please could you inform me of repair options? Many thanks Jean Bennett.

There is a User Manual on-line:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/res/manuals/4462/44623811M.pdf

If that doesn't solve your problem, there is a support capability:
http://services.sony.co.uk/supportmvc/en/contact?pdp=cmt-v11ip&cat=audio-systems-mini-micro-systems&cpint=spt-footer_contact

Alternatively there is a repair manual
https://servicemanuals.us/sony/audio/cmt-v10ipn-cmt-v11ip.html
but if you don't think you are capable of a home repair, I would give
this one a miss.

Jim

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 26/02/18 13:05, jeanm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sony radio modelcmtv11ip serial no6112788. The CD door will not open. Please could you inform me of repair options? Many thanks Jean Bennett.

Contact the shop that sold it. It might be still in warranty?

If not, ask them if they know a repair place, and if someone there can
give an estimate on the cost.

Don't laugh. Twice we've had electronic things purchased from John Lewis
fail, and they have unfailingly recommended repairers that have done a
great job of getting the items working again with manufacturer parts,
and no hassle.

If you feel like DIY, then have a fish around
www.ifixit.com
www.repairfaq.org/sam/audiofaq.htm

If not experienced and need assistance, how about visiting a repair cafe?
repaircafe.org/en/visit/

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[Jeff Layman]

Well, according to the header this was in reply to a post dated 17
August 2014 with the same subject.

That post was about the Sony ICF-SW1 radio, with the usual distorted
sound problems due to aged capacitors. I've no idea why the reply was
3.5 years late and just asked another question about a different Sony
product!

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[Brian Gaff]

Yes my thoughts as well.

Brian

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[Brian Gaff]

Or maybe Home Owners Club have branched out and now have an electronics list
as well with as poor an interface that forgets to use years when putting
posts into any kind of order in its web based forum list.

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[curt....@gmail.com]

Does anyone recall who did this repair? I'm in the US and my little SW-1S is doing this now. I don't mind sending it to the UK if there's a chance the fix can be done.

[Brian Gaff]

Care to elaborate as we cannot see the original post. quote some if you can.
Brian

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