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jamie powell
Sep 18, 2009, 7:25:57 PM9/18/09
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Visiting a uni friend at her parents' house today, I was intrigued to
find an 'old-skool' video extender device installed in her bedroom.
find an 'old-skool' video extender device installed in her bedroom.
Branded 'Rabbit' and dated 1985, the system consists of two silver
boxes - a mains-powered one in the lounge with phono composite video
and stereo audio inputs, and a second box in the bedroom with an
RF-out socket (plus thin-wire loop-thru for an optional third box).
The former transmits the signal (sky+ digibox output in this case) via
20+ metres of incredibly thin cable, which the remote device then
outputs as a modulated UHF signal to the TV (System I mono).
There's even a return path for IR remote control signals carried on
the same cable.
Has anyone heard of these devices before?
It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
those wireless video sender abominations.
Graham.
Sep 18, 2009, 7:57:09 PM9/18/09
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Yes I remember them, I am just surprised they are 24 years old.
Just about the same era as another Rabbit, the Hutchison Rabbit
CT2 phone point handset.
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Stephen Wolstenholme
Sep 18, 2009, 8:03:18 PM9/18/09
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:25:57 +0100, "jamie powell"
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<jami...@excite.com> wrote:
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>Has anyone heard of these devices before?
>It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
>those wireless video sender abominations.
A friend had one. It worked very well and, so far as I know, it is
still in use.
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jamie powell
Sep 18, 2009, 8:27:16 PM9/18/09
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"Stephen Wolstenholme" <st...@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:25:57 +0100, "jamie powell"
> <jami...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone heard of these devices before?
>>It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
>>those wireless video sender abominations.
>
> A friend had one. It worked very well and, so far as I know, it is
> still in use.
Any idea what the intermediate frequency was?
I'm assuming there must have been one - UHF wouldn't carry too well on
a tiny thin non-coax cable.
Norman Wells
Sep 19, 2009, 4:36:47 AM9/19/09
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jamie powell wrote:
> Visiting a uni friend at her parents' house today, I was intrigued to
> find an 'old-skool' video extender device installed in her bedroom.
>
> Branded 'Rabbit' and dated 1985, the system consists of two silver
> boxes - a mains-powered one in the lounge with phono composite video
> and stereo audio inputs, and a second box in the bedroom with an
> RF-out socket
Ah, one of the early Ann Summers models.
The latest version, Rampant Rabbit, is much better, so I'm told.
Rob Wilson
Sep 19, 2009, 5:11:04 AM9/19/09
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Rob.
Peter Duncanson
Sep 19, 2009, 7:15:03 AM9/19/09
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Don't forget to retune your Rampant Rabbits on September 30th.
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Brian Gaff
Sep 19, 2009, 8:00:38 AM9/19/09
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I had the rabbit handset for many years as a home cordless phone. It was so
good I could make calls half a mile away!
Eventually died of membrane death.
good I could make calls half a mile away!
Eventually died of membrane death.
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Norman Wells
Sep 19, 2009, 8:14:53 AM9/19/09
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But to what frequency?
J G Miller
Sep 19, 2009, 8:53:25 AM9/19/09
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:14:53 +0100, Norman Wells wrote:
> But to what frequency?
Ask Mr Book -- he knows a thing or too about tuning.
Bigguy
Sep 19, 2009, 10:03:02 AM9/19/09
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Norman Wells
Sep 19, 2009, 12:41:51 PM9/19/09
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My God, I was thinking more in terms of 4 times a week.
Paul Ratcliffe
Sep 19, 2009, 12:50:10 PM9/19/09
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:00:38 GMT, Brian Gaff <Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> I had the rabbit handset for many years as a home cordless phone. It was so
> good I could make calls half a mile away!
> Eventually died of membrane death.
Still got mine. Batteries died of course and you can't get the ones with
the pip on the end any more. I just use the half dead dry cells from the
recycle bin at work.
Ivan
Sep 19, 2009, 4:16:37 PM9/19/09
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Is this the one? if so I actually own one and dug it out of the loft to
photograph it.
<http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Anth230542/Rabbit?authkey=Gv1sRgCMfMgdb0mM_oUA&feat=directlink>
jamie powell
Sep 19, 2009, 7:47:23 PM9/19/09
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>
>>
>> Has anyone heard of these devices before?
>> It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
>> those wireless video sender abominations.
>>
>
> Is this the one? if so I actually own one and dug it out of the
> loft to photograph it.
>
> <http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Anth230542/Rabbit?authkey=Gv1sRgCMfMgdb0mM_oUA&feat=directlink>
Indeed - the very same one :-)
Ivan
Sep 20, 2009, 4:34:46 AM9/20/09
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It's been so long since I last used it I can't quite recall the set up and I
threw out the handbook only a few months ago.
However I do remember that the interconnecting wire was very fine, much
thinner than bell wire, and as you say all things considered it did work
remarkably well, even over quite long distances. It's an American made
device and considering the number which must have been sold I'm amazed to
find that scouring the net reveals hardly a scrap of information about them,
BTW the model number is R-8000P, made by Gemini Industries in the U.S.
kenton...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2016, 11:16:06 PM6/11/16
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I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested in them...dated 1985
kenton...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2016, 11:17:19 PM6/11/16
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I have 2 of these boxes in mint condition dated 1985 if interested in them let me know...
Indy Jess John
Jun 12, 2016, 7:02:15 AM6/12/16
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On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested in them...dated 1985
I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be a
> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested in them...dated 1985
gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
output as a UHF signal.
It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS recorder
to give it a new lease of life. I don't need it though, because I
already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
Jim
Brian Gaff
Jun 12, 2016, 7:23:23 AM6/12/16
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I used to have a Rabbit Phone and base station but never heard of a video
extender. are they analogue or digital?
I passed on the pun about Rabbits watching tv.
Brian
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extender. are they analogue or digital?
I passed on the pun about Rabbits watching tv.
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Davey
Jun 12, 2016, 7:29:41 AM6/12/16
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IR Remote Control signals in a different room.
That, or a VW Golf. Or something else entirely...
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Indy Jess John
Jun 12, 2016, 7:45:46 AM6/12/16
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are also viewing the main signal, what use it it to you to operate the
remote?
So I concentrated on the primary channel feature rather than the reverse
channel for remote.
Jim
Bill Wright
Jun 12, 2016, 8:32:36 AM6/12/16
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On 12/06/2016 12:02, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>> in them...dated 1985
>
>
> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be a
> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
> output as a UHF signal.
No, they were devices that took in AV signals and transmitted them in
> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>> in them...dated 1985
>
>
> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be a
> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
> output as a UHF signal.
the form of a standard UHF TV channel. TV sets in the house could
receive the output on a indoor aerial. They were dreadful things,
illegal of course, and caused no end of bother. The main problems were:
1. In areas where several TV transmitters were in use the output channel
of the device might clash with an off-air channel used in another house.
You'd think CCI would prevent this but it didn't, always.
2. People could watch next door's VCR or sat box output. Sometimes this
caused great embarrassment.
Bill
Brian-Gaff
Jun 12, 2016, 10:29:58 AM6/12/16
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Around here somewhere is a video sender of the analogue sort. I regularly
can pick up the sound channel, but have never bothered to try to aim an
aerial to find it and get Sky for free, sadly their choice of viewing is
mainly rubbish sports or from some other source, some eastern European
language stuff.
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can pick up the sound channel, but have never bothered to try to aim an
aerial to find it and get Sky for free, sadly their choice of viewing is
mainly rubbish sports or from some other source, some eastern European
language stuff.
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Jaffna Dog
Jun 12, 2016, 2:15:18 PM6/12/16
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This principle was used on a large scale with the 'Rediffusion' wire-broadcast system, which closed about thirty years ago, some of the cables are still there.
www.rediffusion.info
cpc.farnell.com
DC
Jun 13, 2016, 2:34:31 AM6/13/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:32:49 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:
> 2. People could watch next door's VCR or sat box output. Sometimes this
> caused great embarrassment.
In my case entertainment, the people opposite had a Filmnet decoder. I even
> 2. People could watch next door's VCR or sat box output. Sometimes this
> caused great embarrassment.
bought a dedicated set top aerial & pointed it at their house.
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On 12/06/2016 12:29, Davey wrote:
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> Indy Jess John<jimw...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is
>>> interested in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>>> interested in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to
>> be a gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it
>> is output as a UHF signal.
>>
>> It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS
>> recorder to give it a new lease of life. I don't need it though,
>> because I already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>> be a gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it
>> is output as a UHF signal.
>>
>> It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS
>> recorder to give it a new lease of life. I don't need it though,
>> because I already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
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I used to have a Rabbit Phone and base station but never heard of a video
extender. are they analogue or digital?
I passed on the pun about Rabbits watching tv.
Brian
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>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>> in them...dated 1985
>
>
>> in them...dated 1985
>
>
> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be
a
> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
> output as a UHF signal.
a
> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
> output as a UHF signal.
No, they were devices that took in AV signals and transmitted them in
the form of a standard UHF TV channel. TV sets in the house could
receive the output on a indoor aerial. They were dreadful things,
illegal of course, and caused no end of bother. The main problems were:
1. In areas where several TV transmitters were in use the output channel
of the device might clash with an off-air channel used in another house.
You'd think CCI would prevent this but it didn't, always.
the form of a standard UHF TV channel. TV sets in the house could
receive the output on a indoor aerial. They were dreadful things,
illegal of course, and caused no end of bother. The main problems were:
1. In areas where several TV transmitters were in use the output channel
of the device might clash with an off-air channel used in another house.
You'd think CCI would prevent this but it didn't, always.
2. People could watch next door's VCR or sat box output. Sometimes this
caused great embarrassment.
Bill
caused great embarrassment.
Paul Cummins
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On Sunday, 12 June 2016 12:02:15 UTC+1, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
them...dated 1985
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> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be
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> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it
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> output as a UHF signal.
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> It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS
recorder=20
> to give it a new lease of life. I don't need it though, because I=20
> already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
>=20
> Jim
You can still buy similar devices from CPC, as well as all kinds of other
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You can still buy similar devices from CPC, as well as all kinds of other
audio-video interfaces (such as HDMI, digital audio, VGA, etc), they use
st=
andard network cable, with one or more twisted pairs. Presumably the
sound =
signal has transformers to avoid earth loops or earth potential
difference =
problems (but with typical small and cheap transformers, you will lose
bass=
response), vision would have to use an HF carrier, to maintain the DC
comp=
onent, AFAIK 'PAL' colour won't work without it, and monochrome vision
will=
look 'muddy', as it did on cheap portable TV's.
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This principle was used on a large scale with the 'Rediffusion'
ast system, which closed about thirty years ago, some of the cables are
sti=
ll there.
www.rediffusion.info
cpc.farnell.com
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:02:13 +0100
Indy Jess John <jimw...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is
> > interested in them...dated 1985
> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is
>
>
> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to
> be a gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>
> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to
> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it
> is output as a UHF signal.
>
> It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS
> It could be useful to anybody with an analogue only TV or VHS
> recorder to give it a new lease of life. I don't need it though,
> because I already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
>
> Jim
>
I thought, from my time in the US, that a Rabbit was a means of using
IR Remote Control signals in a different room.
That, or a VW Golf. Or something else entirely...
--
> because I already accomplish that conversion with a SCART to UHF box.
>
> Jim
>
I thought, from my time in the US, that a Rabbit was a means of using
IR Remote Control signals in a different room.
That, or a VW Golf. Or something else entirely...
Davey.
Paul Cummins
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Subject: Re: "Rabbit" video extender - 80s technology
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Around here somewhere is a video sender of the analogue sort. I regularly
can pick up the sound channel, but have never bothered to try to aim an
aerial to find it and get Sky for free, sadly their choice of viewing is
mainly rubbish sports or from some other source, some eastern European
language stuff.
Brian
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"Bill Wright" <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote in message
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> On 12/06/2016 12:02, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>>> in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be
a
>> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
>> output as a UHF signal.
>
>> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>>> in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be
a
>> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
>> output as a UHF signal.
>
Robin
Jun 16, 2016, 3:40:33 AM6/16/16
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On 12/06/2016 13:32, Bill Wright wrote:
> On 12/06/2016 12:02, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>>> in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be a
>> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
>> output as a UHF signal.
>
> No, they were devices that took in AV signals and transmitted them in
> the form of a standard UHF TV channel. TV sets in the house could
> receive the output on a indoor aerial. They were dreadful things,
> illegal of course, and caused no end of bother. The main problems were:
The name may have been used for more than one product since I remember
> On 12/06/2016 12:02, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 12/06/2016 04:16, kenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have 2 of these boxes in perfert condition if anyone is interested
>>> in them...dated 1985
>>
>>
>> I had to google this because I hadn't heard of this. It appears to be a
>> gadget that takes in a RCA signal into one box, converts it into
>> something else that runs over a long wire to the other box where it is
>> output as a UHF signal.
>
> No, they were devices that took in AV signals and transmitted them in
> the form of a standard UHF TV channel. TV sets in the house could
> receive the output on a indoor aerial. They were dreadful things,
> illegal of course, and caused no end of bother. The main problems were:
well the Rabbit one we had was a wired video sender (as Davey indicated).
And in reply to Jim, the reverse feed for an IR remote allowed one to
lie in bed and change the channel on the satellite receiver downstairs
which the Rabbit was feeding to the bedroom set; or start/stop pause the
VCR downstairs
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Norman Wells
Jun 16, 2016, 4:06:43 AM6/16/16
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> The name may have been used for more than one product since I remember well the
> Rabbit one we had was a wired video sender (as Davey indicated).
The Rabbit the wife had suffered from terrific interference. All you could hear
whenever she turned it on was mains hum. I don't recall it having a video sender
though.
> And in reply to Jim, the reverse feed for an IR remote allowed one to lie in bed
> and change the channel on the satellite receiver downstairs
Yes, I think that's what she was trying to do, but it never seemed to work.
She seemed happy enough with it anyway.
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> The name may have been used for more than one product since I remember well the
> Rabbit one we had was a wired video sender (as Davey indicated).
whenever she turned it on was mains hum. I don't recall it having a video sender
though.
> And in reply to Jim, the reverse feed for an IR remote allowed one to lie in bed
> and change the channel on the satellite receiver downstairs
She seemed happy enough with it anyway.
Davey
Jun 16, 2016, 5:20:07 AM6/16/16
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"Norman Wells" <h...@unseen.ac.am> wrote:
> The Rabbit the wife had suffered from terrific interference. All you
> could hear whenever she turned it on was mains hum. I don't recall
> it having a video sender though.
Not this one?
"Norman Wells" <h...@unseen.ac.am> wrote:
> The Rabbit the wife had suffered from terrific interference. All you
> could hear whenever she turned it on was mains hum. I don't recall
> it having a video sender though.
http://www.annsummers.com/sex-toys/help-advice/10-things-to-do-with-a-rampant-rabbit.html
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Max Demian
Jun 16, 2016, 6:03:50 AM6/16/16
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wrote:
If it had mains hum it must have been connected to the mains, which
sounds dangerous to stick up your wotsit.
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sounds dangerous to stick up your wotsit.
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Jun 9, 2019, 6:27:16 PM6/9/19
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On Friday, September 18, 2009 at 6:25:57 PM UTC-5, jamie powell wrote:
> Visiting a uni friend at her parents' house today, I was intrigued to
> find an 'old-skool' video extender device installed in her bedroom.
>
> Branded 'Rabbit' and dated 1985, the system consists of two silver
> boxes - a mains-powered one in the lounge with phono composite video
> and stereo audio inputs, and a second box in the bedroom with an
> RF-out socket (plus thin-wire loop-thru for an optional third box).
> The former transmits the signal (sky+ digibox output in this case) via
> 20+ metres of incredibly thin cable, which the remote device then
> outputs as a modulated UHF signal to the TV (System I mono).
> There's even a return path for IR remote control signals carried on
> the same cable.
> Visiting a uni friend at her parents' house today, I was intrigued to
> find an 'old-skool' video extender device installed in her bedroom.
>
> Branded 'Rabbit' and dated 1985, the system consists of two silver
> boxes - a mains-powered one in the lounge with phono composite video
> and stereo audio inputs, and a second box in the bedroom with an
> RF-out socket (plus thin-wire loop-thru for an optional third box).
> The former transmits the signal (sky+ digibox output in this case) via
> 20+ metres of incredibly thin cable, which the remote device then
> outputs as a modulated UHF signal to the TV (System I mono).
> There's even a return path for IR remote control signals carried on
> the same cable.
>
> Has anyone heard of these devices before?
> It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
> those wireless video sender abominations.
I have a Rabbit my brother told me about and it has been a staple in our house since we bought it mine is black but it works like a champ..
> Has anyone heard of these devices before?
> It's a shame they didn't catch on - performance is far superior to
> those wireless video sender abominations.
Brian Gaff
Jun 10, 2019, 2:43:28 AM6/10/19
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Is that the same rabbit that used to make the phones?
Brian
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