Re: Digiguide

[Roderick Stewart]

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:11:01 GMT, "itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con>
wrote:

>Getting somewhat fed up with listing errors in Digiguide.
>
>Is anybody aware of an alternative that I can use to select programs and
>make a printable list of those programs.

What errors would those be? I've been using it for years with no
problems. Any broadcaster can change their schedules, and info beyond
a week hence ought to be treated as subject to change anyway.

Rod.

[tim...]

"itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con> wrote in message
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> Next week BBC1HD early evening news duration given as 1 hour on three
> occasions, overlapping with regional news.

Next week has two schedules for each evening depending upon which football
match each of the channels eventually decides it is going to show.

It's not unknown for EPGs not to get updated correctly when this happens.

This may, or may not, have a similar effect on an online schedule provider

tim

[Roderick Stewart]

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:55:45 GMT, "itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con>

>Next week BBC1HD early evening news duration given as 1 hour on three

>occasions, overlapping with regional news. Monday Panorama at 20:30 not
>listed. BBC1SD One Early evening Regional News shown as lasting all
>evening until start of 22:30ish edition. ITV1 Program with CCTV in title
>shown in Digiguide but Coronation Street in slot according to YouView
>Guide.

I've just had a look now, and the news and Panorama listings appear
normal, though I don't know about the others. I never watch Coronation
Street so I don't know when it's supposed to be on, but the first one
I found was next Wednesday 2100-2200, i.e. a whole hour of it. Is that
right? I watched a whole episode once in black and white, with Ena
Sharples in it, and that was only half an hour, so perhaps things have
changed. There are a few big sporting events on at the moment, which
traditionally always have messed up the scheduling for everything
else, so it wouldn't surprise me if Digiguide occasionally took a bit
of time to catch up with last minute changes.

[...]
>All comments refer to North West (Granada) area, I do not know if same
>errors relate to ther regions as well.

Same here. Winter Hill. I'm sure it's not perfect, but it mostly works
for me, and there's always internet catch-up if I miss anything.

Rod.

[Brian Gaff]

On the normal freeview lists, I had to chuckle each time bbc1 put on a match
that spanned the 6 o clock news time, they still called it the six or clock
news no matter what time it aired on the guide.
Brian

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[Ian]

In message <02pqmb5t4tv1jp39h...@4ax.com>, Roderick
Stewart <rj...@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes

Yesterday, the Freesat and Freeview EPGs showed three or four hours of
live football on MOTD, but followed by other stuff in the same time
slot.

The football prevailed.
--
Ian

[NY]

"itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con> wrote in message
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>
> On 24-Jun-2016, Roderick Stewart <rj...@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>

> Next week BBC1HD early evening news duration given as 1 hour on three
> occasions, overlapping with regional news. Monday Panorama at 20:30 not
> listed. BBC1SD One Early evening Regional News shown as lasting all
> evening until start of 22:30ish edition. ITV1 Program with CCTV in title
> shown in Digiguide but Coronation Street in slot according to YouView
> Guide.

Next Friday (1 July) the listings on BBC1 (SD) for BBC North East are
ludicrous:

FILM: Fallen
On: BBC 1 North East (1)
Date: Friday 1st July 2016 (starting in 5 days)
Time: 23:55 to 13:50 (13 hours and 55 minutes long)

13h 55m :-)


followed by

NEWS: BBC News
On: BBC 1 North East (1)
Date: Saturday 2nd July 2016 (starting in 5 days)
Time: 13:55 to 06:00 (16 hours and 5 minutes long)

16h 5m :-)

Only two very long programmes apparently on that day!


All the other channels seem OK.

[tim...]

"Ian" <ne...@nospamdemon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:F9fJ8PC5...@nospam.demon.co.uk...

please explain what you mean by "followed by" "in the same timeslot", they
seem to be mutually exclusive to me.

>
> The football prevailed.

but only if, when the teams in the match are know, they still want to show
it.

tim

[Norman Wells]

"NY" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> Next Friday (1 July) the listings on BBC1 (SD) for BBC North East are ludicrous:

Not as ludicrous as they were on referendum day afternoon:

3.15 Escape to the Country
4.15 Flog It
5.15 Pointless

[tim...]

"NY" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con> wrote in message
> news:576d49f0$0$57780$b1db1813$a307...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> On 24-Jun-2016, Roderick Stewart <rj...@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:11:01 GMT, "itsonlyme" <itso...@notthis.con>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Getting somewhat fed up with listing errors in Digiguide.
>>> >
>>> >Is anybody aware of an alternative that I can use to select programs
>>> >and
>>> >make a printable list of those programs.
>>>
>>> What errors would those be? I've been using it for years with no
>>> problems. Any broadcaster can change their schedules, and info beyond
>>> a week hence ought to be treated as subject to change anyway.
>>
>> Next week BBC1HD early evening news duration given as 1 hour on three
>> occasions, overlapping with regional news. Monday Panorama at 20:30 not
>> listed. BBC1SD One Early evening Regional News shown as lasting all
>> evening until start of 22:30ish edition. ITV1 Program with CCTV in title
>> shown in Digiguide but Coronation Street in slot according to YouView
>> Guide.
>

Marr got extended by 10 minutes this morning (to 10:10), but they only
changed the start time of Sunday Pol by 5 mins to 10:05.

My box couldn't work out what do when Marr finished and Sunday Pol started
at 10:08.

Fortunately, I have these programs on in the background and only record them
so that I can go back to watch the interesting bits that I miss, so I
corrected it manually.

And the bastards used the same EU map showing Belarus as a member that I
have already complained about.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

tim

[Ian]

In message <nkoojl$rai$1...@dont-email.me>, tim...
<tims_n...@yahoo.com> writes

It was along the lines of, "16:00 - 19:00 Football, 16:30 - 17:30
Animated Movie, 17:30 - 19:00 Someone on a Couch Talking to People Who
Have Something to Sell.

As I said, the whole slot was dedicated to football.
--
Ian

[Johnny B Good]

I suspect the broadcaster in question was the BBC. I see just this sort
of confusion in the epg in Kaffeine (a Linux multimedia program) on a
regular basis. Most of the time it's just duplicate entries which seem to
be triggered by description changes alone. Other cases involve last
minute scheduling changes (e.g the second duplicate may show a 5 minute
later time whilst the original may or may not have been showing a 5
minute longer duration - in this case, I stick with the original
scheduling if the net result encompasses both possibilities).

The more severe changes, usually the result of (unpredictable???)
changes due to major sports events (which schedules *must surely* have
been in the public domain weeks before, let alone the 7 day limit of the
EPG), can even result in a switch around in the order of two back to back
programmes (on top of the inevitable loss of regular programming)
requiring a look at the BBC's TV schedules web pages from a few hours to
a few minutes beforehand to confirm which of the two possibilities is
actually true.

Luckily for me, I can utilise a "Shoot first. Ask questions later."
approach to resolving the issue of naming both recordings correctly when
I happen to be interested in recording both programmes. I simply schedule
both scheduling permutations so that each broadcast is simultaneously
recorded to two different files at a time.

This means I can then simply delete the incorrectly named duplicates
after a brief examination of their content. It saves me the bother of
checking the BBC's web pages beforehand or the need to swap the names
around between the two files afterwards if I'd simply shrugged my
shoulders and had said to myself "What's in a name? They're both 1 hour
programmes, I'll have the content regardless of the file names anyway.".
Deleting unwanted files is far less hassle than renaming the two single
copies. :-)

--
Johnny B Good

[tim...]

"Johnny B Good" <johnny...@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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The problem with games in international tournaments is not that the time
isn't know, it's that the teams aren't

If only one channel is showing the tournament then there is no issue, but if
they are sharing it they take turns in picking which match they want after
the terms are know.

Accordingly they both have to allow a slot in their schedule in case they
pick that match, and have an alternative schedule in case they don't. This
can (and has this week) happen on less than 7 days notice - in any case
doesn't digiguide look 14 days ahead

tim

[Johnny B Good]

I guess that explains the 'unfathomable' logic behind the scheduling
changes then. :-(

>
> Accordingly they both have to allow a slot in their schedule in case
> they pick that match, and have an alternative schedule in case they
> don't. This can (and has this week) happen on less than 7 days notice -
> in any case doesn't digiguide look 14 days ahead
>

A quick check to remind me, verifies that you have to pay for the 30 day
listing option as well as avoid the advertising on the basic 7 day
listings service which is why I've never touched it with a bargepole
[1]. :-)

I was simply quoting my epg experience to point out that it's not just
digiguide that suffers from the antics of the programme scheduler's free
and easy attitude to stability and order in our lives. :-)

[1] ITV's (and, I suspect other commercial broadcasters') web listings
pages are a shit hole of advertising I'd prefer to avoid as much as I
avoid watching the FreeView flavour of commercial propaganda. Since my TV
viewing/recording is almost 100% exclusively BBC aired programmes, I've
no need, nor any desire, to view such web sites.

The BBC's own web listings pages are generally updated in a reasonably
timely fashion in regard of disruption by 'unusual' broadcasting events,
usually only being caught out when the BBC decide to start a delayed
programme earlier than anticipated by an unexpected early ending of the
'unusual' broadcasting event that had bumped the programme into a later
time slot in the first place.

Why they can't just slot in a 5 or 10 minute 'filler' to avoid making a
mockery of the revamped schedule, only $Deity alone knows! It's not as if
they don't have a suitable selection of 'shorts' available to fill the
gap. Do they believe they're doing us all a favour by reducing the wait
for the delayed programme? Surely, they ought to have realised that
they've fsck'd the schedule beyond all redemption by then and that such
'munificence' is likely to do more harm than good. BBC programme
schedulers, don't you just love (to hate) them? :-(

--
Johnny B Good

[Ian]

In message <nkrlds$56j$1...@dont-email.me>, tim...
<tims_n...@yahoo.com> writes

I'm puzzled as to why you leave the "n" off the end of the word "known".

>Accordingly they both have to allow a slot in their schedule in case
>they pick that match, and have an alternative schedule in case they
>don't. This can (and has this week) happen on less than 7 days notice -
>in any case doesn't digiguide look 14 days ahead
>
>tim
>
>

--
Ian

[tim...]

"Ian" <ne...@nospamdemon.co.uk> wrote in message

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It was a typo that the spell checker doesn't highlight because it's a valid
word (and a quick scan doesn't make it obvious either)

tim

[Paul Ratcliffe]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:48:28 +0100, Ian <ne...@nospamdemon.co.uk> wrote:

>>If only one channel is showing the tournament then there is no issue,
>>but if they are sharing it they take turns in picking which match they
>>want after the terms are know.
>>
> I'm puzzled as to why you leave the "n" off the end of the word "known".

I'm puzzled why you included quotes 9 levels deep and totalling over
100 lines just to add such a pointless comment pertaining to only a very
small amount of the previous post.

You're not the only idiot though...

[Brian Mc]

itsonlyme <itso...@notthis.con> wrote:
: Getting somewhat fed up with listing errors in Digiguide.

My digiguide.tv iPhone App has, in the past few days, stooped offering
daily suggestion - and now seems to have lost its listings!

While the PC version is still working (for now!!) perhaps they are in trouble!

[Ian]

In message <slrnnn5vri...@news.pr.network>, Paul Ratcliffe
<ab...@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> writes

Amazing how a minor oversight can cause such an extreme response in
someone with such high self-regard.

Does your bed have a right side?
--
Ian

[Paul Ratcliffe]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:42:51 +0100, Ian <ne...@nospamdemon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Amazing how a minor oversight can cause such an extreme response in
> someone with such high self-regard.

So you want to dish it out but you don't want to take it, eh?
It's hardly "such an extreme response" either.

[Ian]

In message <slrnnnaj0f...@news.pr.network>, Paul Ratcliffe
<ab...@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> writes

I didn't dish anything out, merely asked a question out of curiosity, as
I knew it wasn't a spelling mistake.

I shouldn't be surprised you don't regard calling someone an idiot as
extreme?
--
Ian

[al...@fitchett.biz]

I had the same problem, I can't even find them on the Apple App Store as I tried to reload the App. Has anyone got an answer please?

[br...@somewhere.ac.uk]

al...@fitchett.biz wrote:
> I had the same problem, I can't even find them on the Apple App Store as I
>tried to reload the App. Has anyone got an answer please?

No - last time I looked their Website and Forums had not been updated - and
the website still pointed to the Apple App (which, as you say, has been
deleted from the App Store)

I am somewhat surprised (but pleased!) that my PC Digiguide is still
updating - given their apparent difficulties!

[NY]

<br...@somewhere.ac.uk> wrote in message
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And the story about a version for Android has remained the same for a long
time - see their FAQ


https://support.digiguide.tv/solution.asp?s=476&sl=499

Q. When are you going to produce an Android app?

A. We haven't got any timescales for an Android app at the moment we am
afraid but it is something we would like to develop.

And there's not even a date to show when they made that statement. If it was
a few weeks ago you'd think "Ah it may be released fairly soon" whereas if
it was made five years ago you'd think "Very unlikely ever to happen".