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Daytona

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Jul 21, 2007, 1:50:23 PM7/21/07
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McLAREN NEWS
Statement regarding Lewis Hamilton - 21st July 2007

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes are very happy to confirm that Lewis
Hamilton is completely uninjured following his accident during today’s
qualifying at the Nürburgring.

Following a thorough examination at the on-track medical centre, he
was flown to the Koblenz Bundeswehr Hospital where he underwent a full
pre-cautionary CT scan which proved to be entirely normal.

Lewis has no bruises and is highly motivated to race tomorrow.

As is normal, a final sign-off by the FIA Medical Delegate Gary
Hartstein will take place tomorrow morning which the team believes
will be positive.

If cleared to race, he will start from 10th position with the same
fuel load as he started qualifying with.

http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/mclaren.php

Mike G

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Jul 22, 2007, 7:35:35 AM7/22/07
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"Daytona" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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He's starting from 10th as McLaren have rebuilt his car using the same
engine and gearbox..
As an engineer I'm surprised that an engine and g/b can survive such a shock
without any damage.
I'd have thought it would leave a small question mark as to it's reliability
in the race.
I hope it does survive. Starting from midfield, I feel sure LH will make it
an interesting race, with a podium finish still possible.
Mike.

> http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/mclaren.php

Bigbird

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Jul 22, 2007, 12:37:39 PM7/22/07
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Mike G wrote:

>
> "Daytona" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4lh4a3lrn7gat2qpd...@4ax.com...
> > McLAREN NEWS
> > Statement regarding Lewis Hamilton - 21st July 2007
> >
> > Vodafone McLaren Mercedes are very happy to confirm that Lewis
> > Hamilton is completely uninjured following his accident during
> > today's qualifying at the Nürburgring.
> >
> > Following a thorough examination at the on-track medical centre, he
> > was flown to the Koblenz Bundeswehr Hospital where he underwent a
> > full pre-cautionary CT scan which proved to be entirely normal.
> >
> > Lewis has no bruises and is highly motivated to race tomorrow.
> >
> > As is normal, a final sign-off by the FIA Medical Delegate Gary
> > Hartstein will take place tomorrow morning which the team believes
> > will be positive.
> >
> > If cleared to race, he will start from 10th position with the same
> > fuel load as he started qualifying with.
>
> He's starting from 10th as McLaren have rebuilt his car using the
> same engine and gearbox..

And chassis?

> As an engineer I'm surprised that an
> engine and g/b can survive such a shock without any damage. I'd have
> thought it would leave a small question mark as to it's reliability
> in the race. I hope it does survive. Starting from midfield, I feel
> sure LH will make it an interesting race, with a podium finish still
> possible. Mike.
>
> > http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/mclaren.php

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Mike G

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:19:22 PM7/22/07
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"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike G wrote:
>
>>
>> "Daytona" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:4lh4a3lrn7gat2qpd...@4ax.com...
>> > McLAREN NEWS
>> > Statement regarding Lewis Hamilton - 21st July 2007
>> >
>> > Vodafone McLaren Mercedes are very happy to confirm that Lewis
>> > Hamilton is completely uninjured following his accident during
>> > today's qualifying at the Nürburgring.
>> >
>> > Following a thorough examination at the on-track medical centre, he
>> > was flown to the Koblenz Bundeswehr Hospital where he underwent a
>> > full pre-cautionary CT scan which proved to be entirely normal.
>> >
>> > Lewis has no bruises and is highly motivated to race tomorrow.
>> >
>> > As is normal, a final sign-off by the FIA Medical Delegate Gary
>> > Hartstein will take place tomorrow morning which the team believes
>> > will be positive.
>> >
>> > If cleared to race, he will start from 10th position with the same
>> > fuel load as he started qualifying with.
>>
>> He's starting from 10th as McLaren have rebuilt his car using the
>> same engine and gearbox..
>
> And chassis?

Why not?
All it needed was a new wheel and a lick of paint. :-)

Rebuilt using a new chassis, with the original engine and gearbox.
Any suspect part of the old car would have been rejected and replaced by
new.
In effect a new car with the old engine and gearbox.
Mike.

Bigbird

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Jul 22, 2007, 2:46:01 PM7/22/07
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Mike G wrote:

If essentially you are simply transferring the engine to the spare car
that will be a pitlane start.

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Geoff Berrow

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Jul 22, 2007, 3:26:26 PM7/22/07
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Mike G contained the following:

>> And chassis?
>
>Why not?
>All it needed was a new wheel and a lick of paint. :-)

They don't have a chassis.

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Mike G

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Jul 22, 2007, 5:13:08 PM7/22/07
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"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Not so.
The engine is the deciding factor. As long as the same engine is used, the
rules allow everything else to be changed without penalty.
Mike.

Mike G

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Jul 22, 2007, 5:33:54 PM7/22/07
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"Geoff Berrow" <blth...@ckdog.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Message-ID: <46a39fcb$0$1608$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> from
> Mike G contained the following:
>
>>> And chassis?
>>
>>Why not?
>>All it needed was a new wheel and a lick of paint. :-)
>
> They don't have a chassis.

Actually they do. Not a typical ladder, tubular or aluminium space frame
type, but a monocoque one made from carbon fibre.
Chassis was actually mentioned by Ron Dennis when he was asked about
repairing LHs car.
Mike.

Gizmo.

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Jul 22, 2007, 6:40:35 PM7/22/07
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"Mike G" <met...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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So it was a "cut and shut" then ;o)


Bigbird

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Jul 23, 2007, 4:32:33 AM7/23/07
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Mike G wrote:

The rule I have in mind mentions the "spare car" not the engine. It
does not mention any exclusions about the engine.

Unless you have a precedent I think you are mistaken.

28.2 Any driver who decides to use another race car or a spare car
following the qualifying practice session,
must start the race from the pit lane following the procedures detailed
in Article 38.3. Under these
circumstances no restrictions on fuel load will be applied.

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Brian Lawrence

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:56:08 AM7/23/07
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"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The rule I have in mind mentions the "spare car" not the engine. It
> does not mention any exclusions about the engine.
>
> Unless you have a precedent I think you are mistaken.
>
> 28.2 Any driver who decides to use another race car or a spare car
> following the qualifying practice session,
> must start the race from the pit lane following the procedures detailed
> in Article 38.3. Under these
> circumstances no restrictions on fuel load will be applied.

Exactly what happened to Sato at Silverstone - the team opted to switch to
the spare, moving "his" engine into that chassis. He was penalised by a
pitlane start.

Page 7 of the official FIA report records the changes made to Hamilton's
car:

http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/385339493__EUR_F1_Official_Report_07.pdf


Bigbird

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Jul 23, 2007, 7:13:00 AM7/23/07
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Brian Lawrence wrote:


Well I admit to being a little surprised by this item:

"Complete chassis assembly"

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Mike G

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Jul 23, 2007, 2:56:00 PM7/23/07
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"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If you look at what was replaced in detail, it would appear that very little
of the damaged car was used in the 'rebuild'. Certainly no major components,
apart from the engine and g/b.
It would appear that there's difference between a ready built spare car, and
a damaged one that is rebuilt using new parts, apart from the engine, g/b
etc.
The former is considered to be a different car even if the engine from the
damaged car is fitted, whereas the latter is merely the repair of a car.
Mike.

Bigbird

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Jul 23, 2007, 3:25:27 PM7/23/07
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Mike G wrote:

>
> "Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f91k7v...@news.individual.net...
> > Brian Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >>"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> >>> The rule I have in mind mentions the "spare car" not the engine.
> It >>> does not mention any exclusions about the engine.
> > > >
> >>> Unless you have a precedent I think you are mistaken.
> > > >
> >>> 28.2 Any driver who decides to use another race car or a spare car
> >>> following the qualifying practice session,
> >>> must start the race from the pit lane following the procedures
> >>> detailed in Article 38.3. Under these
> >>> circumstances no restrictions on fuel load will be applied.
> > >
> > > Exactly what happened to Sato at Silverstone - the team opted to
> > > switch to the spare, moving "his" engine into that chassis. He was
> > > penalised by a pitlane start.
> > >
> > > Page 7 of the official FIA report records the changes made to
> > > Hamilton's car:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/385339493__EUR_F1_Official_

> > > Repo rt_07.pdf


> >
> >
> > Well I admit to being a little surprised by this item:
> >
> > "Complete chassis assembly"
>
> If you look at what was replaced in detail, it would appear that very
> little of the damaged car was used in the 'rebuild'. Certainly no
> major components, apart from the engine and g/b. It would appear
> that there's difference between a ready built spare car, and a
> damaged one that is rebuilt using new parts, apart from the engine,
> g/b etc. The former is considered to be a different car even if the
> engine from the damaged car is fitted, whereas the latter is merely
> the repair of a car. Mike.

I do indeed appreciate your point. The proviso is that it needs
replacing of course. As I say I am surprised that the replacement list
can include a complete chassis. I had in mind that that was the item
which then said no this is a new car.

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Mike G

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Jul 23, 2007, 5:50:50 PM7/23/07
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"Bigbird" <bigbird...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I must agree. It does seem a bit odd, but then rules is rules. :-)

Reminds me of the case of a valuable old classic car rebuild.
One guy found the chassis, and misc parts, whilst another found the body,
plus different parts. Finished up with both guys 'restoring' the same car.
Resulted in quite an argument, once both car rebuilds became public. :-)
Mike.

Ian Dalziel

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:03:35 PM7/23/07
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:50:50 +0100, "Mike G" <met...@lycos.co.uk>
wrote:

Jaguar D Type. There are two versions of one of the chassis numbers
running around. One's in Europe and the other in the States, so they
don't meet a lot.

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Ian D

Danger Mouse

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Jul 26, 2007, 5:41:25 PM7/26/07
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Reminds me of Trigger's broom in Only Fools and Horses - Had the same
broom for 20 years "This old broom's had 17 new heads and 14 new handles
in its time."


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