Clive Holt and Fineform
BJAMJAC
Has anyone used and made money from any of the fineform publications,
Winners Back Winners and Become a Succesful Punter with Fineform as
your guide? If you have i would like to find out.
A Bever
It is yet another losing system like so many before. The only person to
make any money is Mr Holt who sells it.
Nick Willis
A Bever wrote:
>
> It is yet another losing system like so many before. The only person to
> make any money is Mr Holt who sells it.
I have seen a system by Fineform and it goes something like this:-
Postmark top rated in non handicap races only and horse must be in the
first three of the betting.
Another system is the informant plan, using the Daily Express take the
highest weighted horse with an S or F in brackets after its name in
handicaps only. For some reason I thought the horse had to be either on
its seasonal debut or finished 4th or worse last time out but I can't
see that anywhere.
I must admit I bought one of Holt's books about 8 years ago!
Regards
Nick Willis
Martin Cowley
A couple of years ago, as an academic exercise only, I replaced the
algorithm in my own home-grown system with the "Fineform Formula" or
whatever it was called (from one of Holt's books and ran it on a sample
of past races (taking data from Computer Raceform). I don't recall the
exact profit/loss figures or how many races were in the sample, but it
didn't turn a profit. That's one great thing about having the form on
computer - you can test such simple formulae.
Dave Murphy
On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:06:55 +0000, Nick Willis <ni...@kokotoni.enta.net>
wrote:
>A Bever wrote:
>>
>> It is yet another losing system like so many before. The only person to
>> make any money is Mr Holt who sells it.
>
>
>I have seen a system by Fineform and it goes something like this:-
>
I think the thing to remember about the original fineform book was that it
wasn't a system book. It provided the rating system to act as guidance to
where to start looking. It then provided advice and examples on how to
analyse the races. It provided various other advice on how to bet more
professionally. It as never protrayed a sa systems book. although the
advertising for it has always been a biy OTT I Think. The book got bme
off guessing and tipsters and into thinking about betting. Other books
and articles since have moved me on from there, but Holt at least got me
away from the illusions.
Dave.
Nijinsky70
>Other books
and articles since have moved me on from there, but Holt at least got me
away from the illusions.
agreed. i still have a laugh about the so-called fineform formula, but
the logic Holt uses is fairly sound and without this and other literature,
i would have had no real basis on which to start forming my own opinions.
incidentally, for me the most informative 'selection finding' book i have
read in the last couple of years has to be 'the winning look' by nick
mordin. again, it is really only a starting point, but a brilliant one
nonetheless in that you start to see why racehorses win races in terms of
the athletes they are rather than mere form.
Iain Simpson
laid...@laidback.compulink.co.uk (Dave Murphy) wrote:
>>I have seen a system by Fineform and it goes something like this:-
>>
>I think the thing to remember about the original fineform book was that it
>wasn't a system book. It provided the rating system to act as guidance to
>where to start looking.
Exactly.
Clive Holts book - "Be a Successful Punter" is an excellent
introduction to horserace betting, which contains a diary section of
Clive's real life betting activities where he uses the Fineform rating
formula as a guide as to which horses to consider and study fully. He
DOES NOT however, in any way bet blindly on these horses.
Another crucial factor which this book introduces is the idea of
setting some minimal acceptable price according to your assessment of
the strength of the opposition your top contenders face.
It can be a system book if you want it to be, but at the same time it
can be one of the best beginner books you can buy.
--
Iain Simpson | "Just under 10 seconds for Nigel Mansell
i...@dial.pipex.com | call it nine point five in round
| figures" - Murray Walker
Dave Murphy
On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 20:02:50 GMT, i...@dial.pipex.com (Iain Simpson) wrote:
>laid...@laidback.compulink.co.uk (Dave Murphy) wrote:
>
>>>I have seen a system by Fineform and it goes something like this:-
>>>
>>I think the thing to remember about the original fineform book was that it
>>wasn't a system book. It provided the rating system to act as guidance to
>>where to start looking.
>
>Exactly.
>
>
>It can be a system book if you want it to be, but at the same time it
>can be one of the best beginner books you can buy.
It certainly brought my horse race betting onto a more realistic footing
and saved me loads of money.
dave.