Key to Newspaper Form Guide Required
Simon Leigh
I would like a key to the horse racing form guide in the Daily Mail.
Specifically, after the name of the horse there are letters in brackets
e.g. Red Rum 14 (C&D) etc.
I understand that C&D means the horse has won at that course at that
distance. But there
are many other letters that often appear there. What do they all mean? There
does not appear to be a key in the paper.
As well can you confirm that 11-11-7 means 11 years old
carrying 11 stone 7 pounds.
Thanks for your help
Simon
denislindridge
being:-
C...won over course
D..won over distance
B..blinkers
V..visor
BF..beaten fav
Also given is the days since a horses last run eg 117
If a horse is dual purpose then it indicates J17 ie ran over sticks 17 days
ago or F12 ..ran on flat 12 days ago.
Goings are usually described thus
Heavy...Hvy or H
Soft Sft or S
Good Gd or G
Good to Soft G/S etc etc
Most descriptions are common sense and you will soon pick them up but if you
have anymore you are stuck with..ask away.
den
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Peter Corbally
It is usually embedded as a separate box in one of the
race cards. In saturday's mail the key to terms was
in between the details for the 4.50 and 5.20 races at Warwick.
Do you really imagine a reputable racing paper would
publish this info without a key to it ???
The big questions about the mails ratings -
who does spotform and decides which horse gets the 78 score ?
does anybody know of any effective systems based on DM spotform ?
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Derek Fitzpatrick
and the Mirror and Sun versions. For what it's worth one Spotform based
system used to be backing the top rated selection in the first and last
races provided they were not handicaps. It used to be a Tim
Whitworth/Whiteford? who did the Mail ratings. As they have been on the go
for over 30 years they seem to have stood the test of time. It is surprising
how often they have a horse top rated by a wide margin that is not fancied
in the betting forecast.
Derek.
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Brian Peace
are probably by far the best 'spot ratings' in any of the National Press by
far.
As far as 'systems' go, there must be a fair faw knocking around. However, I
suggest that you simply buy DM each day and develop your own conclusions.
In some of the other 'rags' I do know from having worked for a large
printing group in late 80s/early 90s, that the tasks such as the above can
often be foisted onto the teaboy/junior whilst the 'superstar' journalist is
still in the winebar :o)
I guess that's showbiz!
Hope the above is of assistance.
Peter Corbally wrote in message ...
Brian Peace
the merits (in principle) of the Formcast Ratings being extremely good at
throwing-up winners that are 'clearly top-rated' at good value odds. This
happens under Summer & Winter racing codes.
Incidentally, I had thought 'Tim Whitford' was one of the founders of
'Racing System Builder' software outfit, and was part of the 'Methodmaker'
feature in Raceform Handicap Book (now Update).
Brian Peace wrote in message ...
>The 'Formcast' Ratings are always prepared by Nigel Taylor for the DM, and
>are probably by far the best 'spot ratings' in any of the National Press by
>far.
>As far as 'systems' go, there must be a fair few knocking around. However,
Alan Fisher
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<snip.>
> It is surprising
> how often they have a horse top rated by a wide margin that is not fancied
> in the betting forecast.
> Derek.
>
handicaps often not fancied, they are also very often clearly and
indisputably without a chance, and run on to prove that standpoint correct.
Also they often reappear within a few days, still highly-rated and still
without any real chance, and continue to run poorly. And though they *have*
occasionally won races at long prices this hasn't happened any more often
than one might expect given the 'laws' of random chance. I've written and
asked the Mirror how their Performance Ratings are calculated but they won't
respond - so maybe the teaboy theory is right ? :-)
The reason I want to find out more is that I rate a race using a method
which takes into account a whole bunch of factors including the Mirror dot
ratings, and I want to know if I'm duplicating any of the other factors by
doing so.
Anybody have any idea at all how these 'scores' are calculated ?
Cheers AF
Simon Leigh
questions!!
what does C&DD mean...
won at this course and distance... why the extra D?
Presumably D3BF2 means the horse won at the distance three times and has
been the favourite but beaten twice.
Does this mean then that D means won once at this distance?
and where there is the going e.g. GS then does this refer to the D before
it?
i.e. won at that distance on good to soft?
Thanks in Advance
Simon
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Firebeast
The D does mean won at this Distance, if there's no number after it,
then it's just the once away from this course. (otherwise it would
have the CD)
You're right about the BF and the 2 after it means the Beaten
Favourite LAST two runs.
Where the going is stated - as in GS - then it means it's won on that
going (Good to Soft on this instance) but it doesn't give any
reference to when or where, just that it has won on that going in the
past. (Though obviously all these things tie in together eventually)
Cheers,
Steve.Beastie.
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