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mike

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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I got a mail shot in the post from a man called Colin Davey - who claims for
around £350 he can provide a formula for race wins.

Does anybody had any idea who he is?
Has anybody heard of his formula (calls is Factor 4)?
Does it work?

I haven't got a clue about horseracing or betting but his predictions seem
to be too good to be true - he has even supplied his last 2 years details of
bets (more lost than won but still made over £20,000) over both years - but
cant check it out propably without seeing his formula.

replies and help will be appreciated
horseracing and betting i could right on the back of a stamp)

ta.
mm


mike

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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Derek Fitzpatrick

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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mike wrote in message <6p8de7$oc2$1...@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>...

In that case you are just the type of person he wants. Get wise, why should
he want to make you rich? See my previous posting - Racing Scam Lawyer in
court. People used to say you never see a poor bookie, now you never see a
poor tipster.
Derek.

Dave McAuley

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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In article <6p8dar$o9f$1...@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>, mike
<mike.m...@virgin.net> writes

>
>I got a mail shot in the post from a man called Colin Davey - who claims for
>around £350 he can provide a formula for race wins.
>
>Does anybody had any idea who he is?
>Has anybody heard of his formula (calls is Factor 4)?
>Does it work?
>
>I haven't got a clue about horseracing or betting but his predictions seem
>to be too good to be true - he has even supplied his last 2 years details of
>bets (more lost than won but still made over £20,000) over both years - but
>cant check it out propably without seeing his formula.
>
>replies and help will be appreciated
>horseracing and betting i could right on the back of a stamp)
>
>ta.
>mm
>
>
>
>
>

Quite simply, the man is a crook and con-man...avoid at all costs.

--
Dave McAuley
<The Wire - Racing & Sports Monthly>
0171 681 1883
http://www.raceuk.com/


Peter Cartwright

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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In article <6p8de7$oc2$1...@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>,
mike.m...@virgin.net (mike) wrote:

>
> I got a mail shot in the post from a man called Colin Davey - who claims
> for
> around £350 he can provide a formula for race wins.
>
> Does anybody had any idea who he is?
> Has anybody heard of his formula (calls is Factor 4)?
> Does it work?
>

It would seem mr Davey spreads his net very wide.

This was found in a posting in a news group called 'misc.entrepreneurs':

Start Quote

2) The Town & Country Property Plan - A real beauty. Run by a bloke
called Colin Davey, T/A Sovereign Investments, he claims to provide
information on how to control land, gain planning permission, and sell
the land without ever owning it, all, of course, without any financial
risk. He operates from Suffolk, claims to have made his millions from
gambling (contradiction in terms??), and that the planning permission is
gained via a company named Land Planning Associates. The price, for the
complete plan, 7 manuals, is about £700.
Any ideas, anyone??

End Quote.

Peter.


Michael Harding

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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Me too. I'm very puzzled by this thing from Colin Davey. The recorded
message really only emphasises what a great scheme it is. As to the
£3500 for the seminars it sounds just too fantastic - unless he really
does bring home the goods!

The temptation to dip one's toes in is enormous. Silly little things
can make one uneasy e.g. one doesn't expect a multi millionaire to have
any mistakes in his literature and yet in his figures for 28/05/96 he
has figures of 680 and 1280 which ought to be 355 and 955. Also, a
telephone call was answered curteously but so briefly as to be almost
abrupt (perhaps that's the way when selling this type of product!). It
also seems just a bit puzzling why a multi-millionaire is available to
have a word on the telephone. I asked him what extra benefit comes from
the seminars. He replied the more systems are explained.

Another outfit that reckon they have cracked the statistics of racing
are handled by CFA Consultants, FREEPOST PE688 SUTTON-ST-EDMUND,
SPALDING, LINCS. PE12 0LU Tel/Fax 07010-701267. They charge £99 for a
scheme that they too claim to be selecting from the daily press, with a
30% strike rate and an average winners starting price of 4/1. I can't
see how they get an average of 4/1 when Colin Davey's fig's I calculate
to only give average wins of 2.73(1996), 2.58(1997), 2.06(1st quarter of
1998) and 2.57 overall.

As you say, without the formula and a lot of work you can't disprove
them.


>
>I got a mail shot in the post from a man called Colin Davey - who claims for
>around £350 he can provide a formula for race wins.
>
>Does anybody had any idea who he is?
>Has anybody heard of his formula (calls is Factor 4)?
>Does it work?

--
Michael Harding

Dave Murphy

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:08:00 +0100, Michael Harding
<Har...@sbok.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Me too. I'm very puzzled by this thing from Colin Davey. The recorded
>message really only emphasises what a great scheme it is. As to the
>£3500 for the seminars it sounds just too fantastic - unless he really
>does bring home the goods!
>

Ther have been several scams over the last few years with people
offering income fro life from racing for only 3,500 gbp. This may be
genuine, but like any scheme, you need evidence to back the claims
before coughing up money. I'd stay well away myself - read a few good
books (all of the mordin ones are good place to start) and hang in this
NG. Look at the fantasy selections, see how people make their
selections and ask questions. You will learn as much but more cheaply.


Dave Roberts

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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In article <OecXMEAA...@sbok.demon.co.uk>, Michael Harding
<Har...@sbok.demon.co.uk> writes

>Me too. I'm very puzzled by this thing from Colin Davey. The recorded
>message really only emphasises what a great scheme it is. As to the
>£3500 for the seminars it sounds just too fantastic - unless he really
>does bring home the goods!
When will people ever learn there is no easy way to make money from
horseracing, with one obvious exception.

You con other people into thinking that you can and charge them three
and a half grand for the information. Being as there's one born every
minute this ads up to a potential income of 210 grand an hour!

Regards
Dave

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Michael Harding

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Jul 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/27/98
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As one of the tempted - by the claims made in the mailshot from Colin
Davey (of Sovereign Investments, Bury St Edmunds) I am keen to hear from
anyone who can comment on his "Factor 4" system.

There has already been comment in this Newsgroup, recommending he be
treated as a rogue, just on principal! The chances are that the comment
is correct but because so tempted I would especially welcome hearing
from anyone with either their own or "someone they know's" experience.
--
Michael Harding

Dave Murphy

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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I live just outside Bury St Edmunds, is there an address for this
outfit? I could try checking them/him out locally

Michael Harding

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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Dave,
Thanks for the offer. The address of Colin Davey is: -
Sovereign Investments
St Georges's house
The Anderson Centre
Western Way
Bury St Edmunds IP33 3TA
Office ..... 01284-700604
Fax ......... 01284-723698
Recorded info 07000-100-150 (8.1/2 minutes)
His brochure shows a 10% staking plan to have produced £10K in 1996,
£25K in 1997 and £1K in first 3 months of 1998.

I really do hope that you get can sound him out and establish whether
his "Factor 4" has any reality. It seems that he also runs a telephone
bookie business - refusing anybody who uses his "Factor 4"!

Regards
Michael Harding.
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Derek Fitzpatrick

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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I am begining to think that you are a "Double Agent" and that soon we will
be hearing how you have taken the bait and landed a big win in order to help
Mr Davey.
You have gone on about this too long. A mug would have got the message by
now.
The morning line on Saturday featured a tipster who left free tips on car
windscreens at Sandown. Each car got a different tip for a horse in the same
race - Thats what tipsters do.
DEREK.

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Dave Roberts

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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In article <6pl37e$1qd$1...@heliodor.xara.net>, Derek Fitzpatrick
<df...@globalnet.co.uk> writes

>The morning line on Saturday featured a tipster who left free tips on car
>windscreens at Sandown. Each car got a different tip for a horse in the same
>race - Thats what tipsters do.
Not all tipsters by any means.

Dave McAuley

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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In article <6pl37e$1qd$1...@heliodor.xara.net>, Derek Fitzpatrick
<df...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>I am begining to think that you are a "Double Agent" and that soon we will
>be hearing how you have taken the bait and landed a big win in order to help
>Mr Davey.
>You have gone on about this too long. A mug would have got the message by
>now.
>The morning line on Saturday featured a tipster who left free tips on car
>windscreens at Sandown. Each car got a different tip for a horse in the same
>race - Thats what tipsters do.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush please Derek ;-)

Ian C Dabin

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Jul 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/29/98
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So whats the outcome of this factor 4 & Colin Davey?


Derek Fitzpatrick

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Jul 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/29/98
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Dave McAuley wrote in message ...
You know the type of tipsters that I am getting at Dave - the ones out to
rope in the greedy non racing person who believes that the whole game is
crooked and that you can pay to join in.
The real problem with tipsters - I think is it is like any other business.
It becomes like selling newspapers or oranges , it's quite good if someone
buys your product sometimes but it is much better if they buy it every day.
A tipster may be honest and have good sources but when you are running that
type of business and people want to bet every day you eventually seek to
increase turnover and supply that need with more tips and even more
advertising. The tipsters who advertise on Teletext always seem to be
getting new info to sell late into the evening.
Newspaper tipsters must have as much knowledge and good sources as most
good )advertising tipsters but unfortunately they are obliged to tip a
horse in every race and lower their strike rate. I think if they were
allowed to tip only in races where they were more confidant there might not
be a need for the pay per tip brigade.
I met John Rickman once on the train going to Newbury and put that point to
him and he agreed that was why more people followed Peter O'sullivans tips.
Peter only had to tip three horses a day.
Anyway who cares who Colin Davey is. I expect his mother doesn't even know
who Colin Davey is as he must have several other names.
Keep on taking the tips
Derek.

Bob Cousins

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Jul 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/29/98
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In uk.sport.horseracing, Ian C Dabin wrote:

>So whats the outcome of this factor 4 & Colin Davey?

Sunburn?
--
Bob Cousins, Software Engineer.
Home page at http://www.lintilla.demon.co.uk/

Punt Hub

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Jul 24, 2022, 5:08:42 AM7/24/22
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Can you believe this crook is still going all these years later, one of my genuine clients got a letter addressed to his deceased father offering a 90% strike rate for a very tiny price of just £97 per month!!!!

A very 'real' testimony attached (you guessed it, just a sentence with no evidence) claiming the clients betting bank stands at some £47,000

People fall for this crap with no evidence nor visible results to back it up?

Ben
Owner/Founder @ punthub.co.uk
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