Is this a record??
Alec
('Temporary Members Fees') it lists:
May-Oct 2003
Midweek per round £122
Midweek per day £147
Weekend per round £137
Possibly somewhere like Wentworth is higher, but this seems excessively
greedy even for what is admittedly a very fine course.
For a similar price I could get a 5-day membership at a modest but enjoyable
local club not a million miles away. I suppose as long as there are punters
willing to pay....
Alec
J P Williams
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Alec,
Birkdales fees have rocketed of late to a ridiculous high. Living not too
far from Southport we used to have an annual trip, but with fees like that
we stopped a few years back.
Now just next door is a course equally as good, if not better, Hillside. I
have in front of me an application for a Seniors Open there which includes
entry money and good prizes later in the year for £25. Value for money there
is no comparison. These Senior competitions give some tremendous offers.
JPW
Janet and 'Hickory' Homer
"Alec" <alexi...@SPAMFREEmail.com> wrote in message
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I wonder if with a lot of these 'famous' courses it is often that they want
to discourage people from playing (less bother damage and crowding?) rather
than innate greed and they think if they put thefees up the people won't
come. Mostly, they are right!
Peace & Love
Janet
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John Q
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I think that you're partly right.
The other motivation for some of these famous courses is to set their
fee levels well apart from the rest, to further highlight their history and
status.
In recent years, the green fees on the open rota courses and
other top clubs have risen quite steeply. It's probably long overdue
considering
the high cost of playing some of the top clubs in the US for example.
It's been great value for years in the UK and still is IMO.
However, this might change in future years!
Sean McConkey
@SPAMFREEmail.com says...
The punters willing to pay are Corporates... and the odd few who are
seriously wedged up! Personally I think it's ludicrous to pay something
like that for a round of golf!
Even if I was a scratch player I wouldn't consider paying that kind of
money, personally I think it is pure greed on the clubs behalf!
Sandy Morton
Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I suppose as long as there are punters
> > willing to pay....
I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
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Demetri Durram
>
> "Alec" <alexi...@SPAMFREEmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b2n0k3$v2s$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > I've just been looking at website of Royal Birkdale. Under Green Fees
> > ('Temporary Members Fees') it lists:
> >
> > May-Oct 2003
> > Midweek per round £122
> > Midweek per day £147
> > Weekend per round £137
> >
> > Possibly somewhere like Wentworth is higher, but this seems excessively
> > greedy even for what is admittedly a very fine course.
> > For a similar price I could get a 5-day membership at a modest but
> enjoyable
> > local club not a million miles away. I suppose as long as there are
> punters
> > willing to pay....
>
> Alec,
>
> Birkdales fees have rocketed of late to a ridiculous high. Living not too
> far from Southport we used to have an annual trip, but with fees like that
> we stopped a few years back.
>
> Now just next door is a course equally as good, if not better, Hillside.
I agree, Hillside is excellent, as is South port & Ainsdail and even
Hesketh. In fact a guide to playing superb 'Open' style golf courses is
to play the venues for Final Qualifying for the Open. All of which are
usually in super condition, very challenging and reasonably priced in
comparison but may lack the name and the space for corporate stuff. When
up near St Andrews try Lundin Links and Ladybank, both FQ courses.
--
Durram
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Laphing Boy
"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.18b9e4bbf...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>,
> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose as long as there are punters
> > > willing to pay....
>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
£550 pa, Joining fee approx £750
Demetri Durram
Wike Ridge, Leeds Golfcentre:
Full £645
Gold £325
5-Day £325
Silver £95
Junior Full £150 over 12, £95 under 12
Joining Fee from £50 to £100, this has come down over the years as I
paid £950 ten years ago when it first opened.
No discount for seniors as they're all retired, rolling in cash and
only drink tea ;-) In fairnaess most of our seniors downgrade to 5 day
membership paying half price and enjoy 'millionaires' golf.
Headingley GC, Leeds
Full £660
Joining Fee £990
5-Day, pro rata (5/7) for both subs and joining fee
I think the discounts for seniors are something like 10% and 20% for
over 70's and 80's respectively.
I think juniors pay half and intermediates 3/4.
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Durram
d:•)
Andereida
"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose as long as there are punters
> > > willing to pay....
>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what
entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
>
There was a thread on this subject towards the end of last year.
Currently at my club it is well over £800pa plus a levy, County fees,
locker rent, etc. The entry fee is normally equal to the first year's
sub. but I believe that for the moment there is a rebate. Seniors can
apply for a 5% discount but only, I think, if they have been in
membership for a specified period. Juniors and students (male and
female) pay about £140pa. There is still a handful of 5-day members
but this category hasn't been available to new applicants for quite a
time now.
On the other hand, a daily green fee is only £40 (Mon-Fri). At
weekends and bank holidays the round fee is £30 (only available after
2.30pm).
Kenneth
Rob Bain
"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose as long as there are punters
> > > willing to pay....
>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
Royal Eastbourne, East Sussex..
£594 for April 2002 - March 2003 but going up to £650 for 2003-2004.
Joining fee the same.
Seniors 70-74 - £585
Seniors 75+ - £569
Any member who has been a member 30+ years - £400
Juniors Under 12 - £60
Juniors 12-17 - £120
Intermediate 18-21 - 265
Intermediate 22-25 - £465
Full Time Student - £148
Rob.
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"Alec" <alexi...@SPAMFREEmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've just been looking at website of Royal Birkdale. Under Green Fees
> ('Temporary Members Fees') it lists:
>
> May-Oct 2003
> Midweek per round £122
> Midweek per day £147
> Weekend per round £137
> Alec
I have just worked out that I have saved over £1000 then !
How ???
I play Royal Birkdale off the back tees with the likes of Colin Montgomerie,
Justin Leonard etc as partners, but I am playing "Tiger Woods 2002" on my
computer !!
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>
>"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> In article <MPG.18b9e4bbf...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>,
>> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > I suppose as long as there are punters
>> > > willing to pay....
>>
>> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
>> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
>> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
Open Championship Final Qualifying course, £310, I think the entrance
fee is the same. My club £270.
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Sam
"Sean McConkey" <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <b2n0k3$v2s$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, alexis2525
> @SPAMFREEmail.com says...
> > I've just been looking at website of Royal Birkdale. Under Green Fees
> > ('Temporary Members Fees') it lists:
> >
> > May-Oct 2003
> > Midweek per round £122
> > Midweek per day £147
> > Weekend per round £137
> >
> > Possibly somewhere like Wentworth is higher, but this seems excessively
> > greedy even for what is admittedly a very fine course.
> > For a similar price I could get a 5-day membership at a modest but
enjoyable
> > local club not a million miles away. I suppose as long as there are
punters
> > willing to pay....
> >
There are a number of variables:-
Courses in London and the SE are much more expensive. Typical ordinary
London club will be about £1000pa (so it would be useful to know where
posters courses are). Joining fee varies between 0 and 3 times the annual
sub depending on how short they are of members!
Prestige courses are more expensive than the rest. In the SE Sunningdale is
around £100, St Georges I think is £80/round and £110/day etc.
American Trail and Corporate courses are simply silly - Turnberry was £125
last summer and Kings Barn was £150, Wentworth (mainly corproate) is now
£150. But most 'name' scottish courses come at a "reasonable" £60 -
£70/round in the summer. Reasonable ho ho ho. That is around £2/full shot -
which, IMHO is just not worth it. But many people do as a number of them
take £200k of green fees every year.
Even if you play once a week (and I know many working guys who barely manage
that) at your ordinary London club, the cost is still £20/round.
All thoroughly depressing.
--
Sam
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illumination
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Colin Wilson
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
I play a pleasant but unspectacular rural Australian course, which is
always in fairly good condition save for dry fairways in summer (no
fairway watering). We have a greens staff of two. No lockers, no pro
shop, just a plain clubhouse (built 1982) with bar, meals and snacks on
competition days.
The annual full adult membership (male and female, one category) is
A$235 (£86), plus A$66 (£24) joining fee. Juniors pay A$60 (£22),
full-time students under-21 pay A$120 (£44), no senior member discounts.
My son is a member at Spring Valley, a sort of "second-tier" Melbourne
sandbelt course ... excellent but not quite in the same bracket as top
courses like Royal Melbourne, Kingston Heath or Metropolitan etc. Spring
Valley has a new A$5 million (£1,836,000) clubhouse just completed,
another A$5 million is being spent on the course over the next five
years, and there's a full pro shop, dining room, spike bar, lockers,
etc.
7-day membership there is A$1800 (£660), with a joining fee of A$3300
(£1211). My son pays A$720 (£264) for 6-day membership (no Saturdays) as
a full-time student under-25.
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david s-a
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>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
I have just received my renewal invoice for my membership at the Anglesea Golf
Club, Victoria, Oz.......which is on the coast some 2 hours drive South West of
my home in Melbourne. This is a high quality 'members' club which makes 75% of
its revenue from 'holiday maker' green fee income and its fine
bar/restaurant/poker machine facilities. It has some six or eight permanent
greens-keeping staff, a fully stocked pro-shop with a willing pro, plus a
trainee pro and sundry temp. staff, plus a full time General Manager with full
time administrative staff. This is a genuine 'members' club, run by the members
for the members. This is unlike many of the so-called high class 'pay-to-play'
clubs which are usually administered by a 'director of golf', (usually a
has-been pro); and whose members complain that it is more like a 'business' then
a 'club'.
My itemised 'membership' account reads as follows:-
Ordinary Membership: $510.00
AGU Insurance: 13.65 - (national governing body)
VGA affiliation: 11.50 - (State governing body)
Locker rental: 23.65
'Golf Link' levy: 2.50 - (national computerised handicap
system)
Total: $561.30
Goods & service tax 56.10
GDGA Affiliation 2.00 - (local 'district' association)
Grand Total: $619.40 (Oz dollars = approx. £225 only!!)
'Entry' fees BTW are approximately Aus$600 this year.
cheers
david
amosfamily
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>
>
> "Alec" <alexi...@SPAMFREEmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b2n0k3$v2s$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > I've just been looking at website of Royal Birkdale. Under Green Fees
> > ('Temporary Members Fees') it lists:
> >
> > May-Oct 2003
> > Midweek per round £122
> > Midweek per day £147
> > Weekend per round £137
> > Alec
I played Birkdale notlong before the last Open there - it cost £50, for the
day! There were workmen erecting the stands (very atmospheric) and some of
the bunkers were GUR ( not a bad thing from mt viewpoint!). The new fees
seem to be set on the same basis as Ken Livingstone's congestion charge. If
they dissuade some folk from coming then fair enough - if people do come
then - we make more money from them. Having said that, the course was pretty
empty when we were there.
As for subs - I belong to Seaton Carew
Annual Fee £515 (Incl £50 compulosry Bar spend)
Joining Fee £465 currently
Not sure what the seniors and juniors rates are, but £130 rings a bell for
Juniors
Stewart Rothnie
two seasons. Mind you we live in golf heaven here in Scotland
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J P Williams
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Just in Cheshire some 11 miles south of Manchester city centre. Last years
fees in brackets.
Membership Subscrip Ent Fee Bar Vouchers
Male 730 (690) 1100(900) 60
Female 530 (490) 850 (650)
Vet (M) 430 (390) 39
Vet (F) 365 (325)
Special Vet 560 (520) 39
Restricted 555 (515) 1100 (900) 39
Res (5day) 520 (480)
Non Play 105 (85)
Country 115 (95)
*Boys*
Junior 100 (90) 100 (90)
Jun Colt 240 (220) 240 (220)
Colt 420 (400) 420 (400)
*Girls*
Jun 100 (90) 100 (90)
Jun Colt 210 (190) 210 (190)
Colt 315 (295) 315 (295)
Juniors............ up to 18
Junior Colt...... up to 21
Colt................ up to 25
JPW
John Turner
"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose as long as there are punters
> > > willing to pay....
>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
I just paid my sub for the year at Lahinch. 453 Euro for the year. That
includes both courses. Interestingly a greenfee four-ball would pay 440 Euro
for one round on the Championship course.
Malcolm Wadsworth
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> "Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > In article <MPG.18b9e4bbf...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>,
> fees in brackets.
>
> Membership Subscrip Ent Fee Bar Vouchers
> Male 730 (690) 1100(900) 60
> Female 530 (490) 850 (650)
> Vet (M) 430 (390) 39
> Vet (F) 365 (325)
> Special Vet 560 (520) 39
> Restricted 555 (515) 1100 (900) 39
> Res (5day) 520 (480)
> Non Play 105 (85)
> Country 115 (95)
> *Boys*
> Junior 100 (90) 100 (90)
> Jun Colt 240 (220) 240 (220)
> Colt 420 (400) 420 (400)
> *Girls*
> Jun 100 (90) 100 (90)
> Jun Colt 210 (190) 210 (190)
> Colt 315 (295) 315 (295)
>
> Juniors............ up to 18
> Junior Colt...... up to 21
> Colt................ up to 25
>
> JPW
>
Time to bring in some equality :-)
Malcolm
J P Williams
> includes both courses. Interestingly a greenfee four-ball would pay 440
Euro
> for one round on the Championship course.
Which is the better value John. Three hundred pounds for a years golf or a
small fortune for a holiday in the Indian Ocean????
Pat
peter kook
"Sandy Morton" <a...@sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I suppose as long as there are punters
> > > willing to pay....
>
> I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the
> posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry
> money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members?
>
Lumpur, where the Malaysian Open is being held
Sandy Morton
Malcolm Wadsworth <m...@blueoverthere.co.uk> wrote:
> What's this: females paying less than males!
> Time to bring in some equality :-)
If my reading of it is correct it is much worse than that!
No bar vouchers:-(
Sam
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I wonder what the handicap of the average members is.
Certainly not money!!
david s-a
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> > £90,000 annual subs at the 200 member Mines Resort & Golf Club in Kuala
> > Lumpur, where the Malaysian Open is being held
> >
Sheesh......£90,000 x 200 = £18 million!!
I could run a reasonable golf club on just 1 membership fee..provided they all
paid for their own drinks!!
cheers
david
John Turner
years!!!!
Then again the good folks in Mauritius threw in a cyclone for additional
entertainment. Made a mess of the diving but it was an interesting
experience.
Richard Brown
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I have just joined Richings Park yesterday on a monthly basis as I may have
to relocate to Scotland if I get a job I have just been interviewed for. If
I don't get it then if I upgrade to full membership the costs will be:
Joining fee £300, with 7 day membership at £850 per annum.
Quite big discounts for juniors I believe.
Richard Brown
roy dunn
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In article <MPG.18b9e4bbf...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, Sean McConkey <snm(CUT-THIS)_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I suppose as long as there are punterswilling to pay....I've changed the subject but I would be interested to know what the posters to this ng pay as an annual golf club subscription, what entry money is required and the discounts for junior and senior members? -- A T (Sandy) Morton on the Bicycle Island In the Global Village http://www.sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk