Texas Scramble
Denis Cary
the following occurred today and we were not sure of the action we should
have taken. Any opinions?
A ball laying off the fairway in short rough was selected and played by
the person who hit it there. It was then discovered that the ball was in
fact a wrong ball when another (the right one) was noticed a few feet away.
No knowing what to do, the offending player suggested that he should
take no further part in the hole and his two partners should continue. No
penalty was charged.
I feel on considering the matter (at leisure) a two stroke penalty
should have been recorded and all three players should play the correct
ball. Anyone agree
Denis Cary
Ken Hoyle
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came down about 60/40 in favour of no penalty, although I think everyone
thought that morally there should be a penalty in there somewhere but
the "rules" let you get away with it. [its really no different than an
OOB, which can be discarded in favour of another ball and there is no
such thing as a "team" penalty]
KenH
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Ken Hoyle
david s-a
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> No knowing what to do, the offending player suggested that he should
> take no further part in the hole and his two partners should continue. No
> penalty was charged.
This was probably the correct thing to do if the scoring format was hole by hole
matchplay,par or stableford. If, on the other hand, the scoring format is
aggregate stroke play then two strokes are added to the team score for the hole,
and the player who hit the wrong ball should then hit a correct ball from the
correct place before any other stroke is taken by the team.
There are no specific rules for a scramble as the game cannot necessarily
conform exactly with the 'Rules of Golf', and the various penaltlies and
procedures for this sort of offence should really be spelt out before the game
starts. The above 'ruling' is merely my interpretation of what would be
fair......and is based loosely on those official rules that do exist within the
'Rules of Golf' for various forms of team play.
cheers
david
Sam Smale
I'm sure Malcolm Wadsworth will have something to day on this. He has
written some excellent scramble rules. I think they are going to be posted
on the website.
By analogy to RoG (as far as possible), shots played with a wrong ball incur
the appropriate penalty. Provided the wrong ball was discovered before all
team members had played the next shot, those who had not yet played could
play from the correct spot without penalty. All team members could then
participate in subsequent shots without penalty.
Of course, if all team members had played from the wrong place, the team
must proceed under the appropriate rule (20-7b I reckon).
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Sam at Wood-Hall dot Demon dot Co dot UK
He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts - for support rather than
illumination
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Malcolm L Wadsworth
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some time ago and hav eposted on this NG before. They are also on the USG
website. Rule 10 covers wrong ball. I hope you may find them useful.
Regards,
Malcolm
RULES FOR A TEXAS SCRAMBLE
1 Format
A Texas Scramble is a stroke play competition in which three or four
competitors play as partners in a side and play as a group.
2 Method of Play
Each partner plays from the teeing ground. The best ball is selected and
the partner who played the selected ball marks its position. The balls of
the other players are lifted. After the partner whose ball was selected has
played his next stroke, each of the other partners may put a ball into play
by placing or dropping a ball at the spot where the selected ball was played
and play a stroke with that ball. Again the best ball is selected and the
procedure repeated until a ball is holed.
3 Scoring
The score for a hole is the sum of the strokes at the consecutive best balls
played with the addition of any penalties incurred.
4 Marking the Best Ball
The position of the best ball after each selection shall be marked by a ball
marker, tee peg or other small object. The marker shall be placed to the
side of the ball and within six inches of it.
If a partner plays the best ball without first marking its position no other
partner may put a ball into play from that spot and the ball played becomes
the best ball.
5 Dropping and Placing
Balls to be put into play under the procedure may be put into play in any
order.
(a) When the best ball was other than on a closely mown area or the putting
green a ball to be put into play under the procedure shall be dropped and
strike the ground within six inches of and not nearer the hole than the
marker which is marking the position of the best ball. The requirements and
conditions of Rule 20-2 (Dropping and Re-Dropping) apply. Any penalty
incurred applies only to the partner in question.
(b) When the best ball was on a closely mown area a ball to be put into play
under the procedure shall be placed within six inches of and not nearer the
hole than the marker which is marking the position of the best ball.
(c) When the best ball was on the putting green a ball to be put into play
under the procedure shall be placed as close as possible to the spot from
which the best ball was played.
Note: The Committee may modify this rule by permitting a ball always to be
placed or by requiring a ball always to be dropped except on the putting
green.
6 Best Ball in a Water Hazard
When the best ball is in a water hazard, each partner may proceed under any
of the options available under Rule 26.
7 Position of Best Ball Unplayable
Each partner may choose to declare the position of the best ball as an
unplayable position and proceed under the options available under Rule 28.
8 Position of Best Ball Provides for Relief Without Penalty
Where the position of the best ball entitles relief without penalty, each
partner himself may or shall take relief in accordance with the appropriate
Rule or Local Rule.
9 Balls Lost or Out of Bounds
A ball lost or out of bounds may not be selected as the best ball except if
all the partners' balls are lost or out of bounds when the ball last played
shall be the best ball. Only the last partner to play may play the first
and any subsequent strokes with a provisional ball or balls until such time
that a provisional ball becomes the ball in play.
10 Wrong Ball
Other than from a hazard, if the ball selected as the best ball is played
and is found to be a wrong ball the side shall incur a penalty of two
strokes. The stroke first played at the wrong ball and any subsequent
strokes played from that place are cancelled. The side must correct its
mistake by continuing with the correct ball of the partner whose ball was
selected.
11 Disqualification Penalties
The disqualification penalties as set out in Rule 31-7a (Four Ball Stroke
Play) shall apply.
12 Rules of Golf
A side shall observe all the Rules of Golf as they are applicable to the
competition. Competitors are reminded of the existence of Rule 14-2b which
prohibits a player allowing his caddie, his partners or their caddies to
position themselves on or close to an extension of the line of play or line
of putt behind the ball.
Note 1: The Committee may require in the conditions of the competition that
a given number of best balls must be selected from each partner's strokes
from the teeing grounds. In which case the score card must be annotated to
indicate which partner's ball is selected from the teeing ground at each
hole.
Note 2: The Committee may require in the conditions of the competition that
the same partner's ball may not be selected as the best ball twice in
succession at the same hole.
Note 3: If the competition is to be a handicapped competition the following
allocation of strokes is recommended.
For sides of three competitors sum the following and round to the nearest
whole number (0.5 rounded upwards): 0.3 of the lowest handicap; 0.2 of the
next lowest handicap; 0.1 of the highest handicap.
For sides of four competitors sum the following and round to the nearest
whole number (0.5 rounded upwards): 0.16 of the lowest handicap; 0.12 of the
next lowest handicap; 0.08 of the next lowest handicap; 0.04 of the highest
handicap.
Example: 5 x 0.16 +15 x 0.12 + 15 x 0.08 + 25 x 0.04 = 0.8 + 1.8 + 1.2 + 1 =
4.8
Strokes received = 5
This method has been found to be fairer than the common practice of 0.2 of
the sum of the handicaps for a side of three competitors or 0.1 of the sum
of the handicaps for a side of four competitors.
Andy Moore
www.ukgolf.org.uk
Andy
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