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Titleist DCI 990 for a hcp 22 player ?

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Henrik T. Poulsen

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Oct 17, 2001, 4:03:03 AM10/17/01
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Hi

I've got a hcp 22 playing with beginners clubs. I'm considering buying a new
set and was recomended to buy the Titleist DCI 990. But the blades looks
rather small compared to my forgiving oversized irons.

Would you recommend a 22 handicapper buying the Titleist DCI 990 ?
If not what would you suggest ?

regards

Henrik Poulsen


william.carmichael

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Oct 17, 2001, 5:39:31 AM10/17/01
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YOU CAN GET GOOD SECONDHAND OVERSIZE Clubs at most golf retail shops as well
as most pro shops,oversize for now and if you do get your handicap down to
say 11 then get some custom made clubs, Ping do a good club, I spent a few
hours at the Ping centre when I bought my Ping i3 blades,WJC
"Nick Webster" <ne...@not.for.mail> wrote in message
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> In article <3bcd3b86$0$42005$edfa...@dspool01.news.tele.dk>,
> henr...@mail.dk says...

>
> > I've got a hcp 22 playing with beginners clubs. I'm considering buying a
new
> > set and was recomended to buy the Titleist DCI 990. But the blades looks
> > rather small compared to my forgiving oversized irons.
>
> In Titleist's own word, they're 'Designed with the better player in
> mind."
>
> And from a review I found:
>
> "Designed for the serious golfer with progressive weight pads, cambered
> sole, dual hosel length. The most sophisticated cast iron ever
> produced."

>
> > Would you recommend a 22 handicapper buying the Titleist DCI 990 ?
>
> I'm certainly no expert, but the above does suggest they would be more
> suited to a low handicapper.

>
> > If not what would you suggest ?
>
> Again, it's all a matter how *you* play with them! You should get some
> different irons taped up, and try hitting a few balls.
>
> If you want a recommendation, try some Ping ISI-Ks (which I want, but
> don't think I could sneak past my better half!) :)
>
> HTH.
> --
> Nick Webster


david s-a

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Oct 17, 2001, 6:45:40 PM10/17/01
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"Henrik T. Poulsen" <henr...@mail.dk> wrote in message
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Although the literature suggests that these clubs are more suited to the
'better' player it doesn't mean that a learner/beginner will not benefit from
them. They feel and play very much like 'blades' which means that you have to
develop very good ball striking skills to use them properly. I believe this to
be the case with any type of clubhead, whether they are blades, oversize,
perimeter weighted or whatever. In the long run I think there is more benefit in
learning to strike the ball properly than having clubs that 'forgive' you for
not striking properly.......you will never learn with those. The advantage with
the 'blade' type of club head is that you can 'feel' what the head is doing as
it strikes the ball and the benefit gained from this feedback is immeasurable.
Range sessions with 'blades' are far more satisfying than with the 'forgiving'
clubs....you really do learn something that will carry directly through to your
on-course game.......and in particular you will learn to 'work' the ball much
more easily with these clubs.

The Titliest 990's are fairly expensive clubs and there are a number of cheaper
clubs around that follow the design type. I, for instance, have made up clubs
using the Peerless Spinnaker heads which I play as well as any other clubs I
have ever owned. There are also similar heads available from both Dynacraft and
Golfsmith that are worth looking into. If cost is a serious consideration then
these 'lesser known' makes will do almost the same thing for a beginner for
about half the price.............go for the more expensive quality when you know
more about the game and have your ball striking skills in order.

Just my $0.02

cheers
david


Henrik T. Poulsen

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Oct 18, 2001, 1:07:17 AM10/18/01
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Thanks for all the tips.... but I ended up ordering the DCI990 !
I have taken 10-12 lessons this summer and getting really tired of my
beginner clubs. And after trying the DCI990 with different shaftlenghts,
lies etc. I found a setting that it seems that I can hit more clean, further
and more straight than my beginner clubs !
So I'm happy with my decision even though that the DCI990 might be for
players with a hcp a little less than I've got.

regards
Henrik Poulsen

PS. Today the DCI990 are not that expensive! About 50 % more than I paid for
my shitty beginners clubs.

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hyoung7240

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Oct 25, 2001, 12:31:23 PM10/25/01
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Your handicap shouldn`t matter, I play with Mizuno MS1`s they are blades and
I play fine ,my handicap is 26 and improving.
I have an opinion that we are led to believe by shop/manufacturers that
cavity backs are better; I`m sure they help some people but years ago there
was no option but blades and I`m pretty certain there would have been a
similar spread of handicaps as today.
Try them out and make you mind up your self.


Chip

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Oct 30, 2001, 4:37:59 AM10/30/01
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"hyoung7240" <hyoun...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I agree with the last sentence. The rest of your post I completely disagree
with.

The fact is if you consistantly hit the ball right in the "sweet spot" on
the club face, it will make no difference whether the club is cavity backed
or not. Unfortunately, I would say this is *extremely* unlikely if you play
off 22 or 26. Unheard of, in fact.

And if (sorry, "when") you hit the ball with other parts of the clubface,
with a blade you are losing probably 1 to 2 clublengths in distance. With a
cavity weighted club, you are not. So, if you like hitting a 7 iron 150
yards one minute, and 135 yards the next, go for blades. If you want to hit
the green more often (and who doesn't?) then cavity is a no brainer.

And this is to ignore other benefits (like progressive offset) offered by
the more forgiving clubs.

There's nothing "macho" about struggling round with equipment way better
than your standard of play! Heck, even many of the touring pro's use cavity
backed clubs.

Chip.


Pat Williams

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Oct 31, 2001, 1:31:19 AM10/31/01
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In article <XxuD7.5898$Ey1.7...@news1.cableinet.net>, Chip <nospamthan
k...@nospam.virgin.net> writes

Two weeks ago I was playing with a Pro whose claim to fame was that he
still holds the record for nine holes in the Open and that at Birkdale.
(the more knowledgeable will now know his name.)

There was a discussion about the merits of cavity backs and blades. He
was asked his opinion and said that he wasn't good enough to hit blades!
Now if he can't then I'm damn sure that I can't.

He had a very good lucrative year on the Seniors tour this year.

I think that supports what you say, Chip!

--
Pat Williams

Bill Seddon

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Oct 31, 2001, 2:37:43 AM10/31/01
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> Two weeks ago I was playing with a Pro whose claim to fame was that he
> still holds the record for nine holes in the Open and that at Birkdale.
> (the more knowledgeable will now know his name.)
>
> There was a discussion about the merits of cavity backs and blades. He
> was asked his opinion and said that he wasn't good enough to hit blades!
> Now if he can't then I'm damn sure that I can't.
>
> He had a very good lucrative year on the Seniors tour this year.
>
> I think that supports what you say, Chip!
>
> --
> Pat Williams

Young Mr Durnian I believe. Ex junior member of Gathurst Golf Club near
Wigan.

--
Bill Seddon
bi...@dentalcareonline.co.uk
www.dentalcareonline.co.uk


Pat Williams

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Oct 31, 2001, 2:01:31 PM10/31/01
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In article <9ro9o8$tsl$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Bill Seddon
<bi...@dentalcareonline.co.uk> writes

>
>> Two weeks ago I was playing with a Pro whose claim to fame was that he
>> still holds the record for nine holes in the Open and that at Birkdale.
>> (the more knowledgeable will now know his name.)
>>
>> There was a discussion about the merits of cavity backs and blades. He
>> was asked his opinion and said that he wasn't good enough to hit blades!
>> Now if he can't then I'm damn sure that I can't.
>>
>> He had a very good lucrative year on the Seniors tour this year.
>>
>> I think that supports what you say, Chip!
>>
>> --
>> Pat Williams
>
>Young Mr Durnian I believe. Ex junior member of Gathurst Golf Club near
>Wigan.

Young for the Seniors tour, Bill.:-)

--
Pat Williams

hyoung7240

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Nov 5, 2001, 2:39:36 PM11/5/01
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I think your comment that it`s "Macho" to struggle with blades is unfair I
enjoy playing well as much as the next person ,If I thought cavity backs
were better for me I would use them ;which I have and I prefer the blades .
On the point of the sweet spot I know with a blade an off centre hit will be
less effective there fore I concetrate harder hitting more consistantly and
improving as I go; since buying my blades my handicap has fallen by 4 shots
to 22 in about 6 months; so many people that I have played with have been
told cavity backs are more forgiving which in turn has the effect of making
them think they can get away with more ;maybe to a certain amount but it
also conditions them to concentrate less as I have witnessed.


Chip

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Nov 9, 2001, 5:02:24 AM11/9/01
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"hyoung7240" <hyoun...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I didn't mean to sound too critical and I apologise if it came over that
way.

But you really aren't doing yourself any favours with blades, honestly
you're not. If you didn't get on with the cavity clubs you tried, then I
would urge you to try some others. Perhaps a good forged cavity club would
feel better for you? I reckon you could take another 4 or 5 shots off your
scores at-a-stroke, with some good cavity backed clubs. I recently bought
the Taylor Made 360's having deliberated long and hard as to whether they
were really for higher handicappers than me. (The 320's being the "middle"
range and the 300's being for low handicappers). "What happens if I can get
my handicap down to 6 or 7 this year?" I asked the pro. "Keep on using
them, they'll do you just fine", was the response. We all need all the help
we can get. "I'd use pink shafted ladies clubs", said another pro "if they
knocked a couple of strokes off my score"!

It reminds me of the old Lee Trevino joke:

"If you are caught on a golf course during a storm and are afraid of
lightning, hold up a 1-iron. Not even God can hit a 1-iron. "

Its really the same with blades. They are for 2 handicappers and under,
imho.

Chip.


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