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Kenny Stultz

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Oct 6, 2004, 12:25:14 PM10/6/04
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If a person from the UK were to travel to the United States and buy a set of
golf clubs, what are his tax obligations when he returns to the UK?

I know of someone who is planning to do that because he thinks he will save
some money, but I was under the impression that it was not really cost
effective by the time the tax man and the customs man take their share.

Thanks for any repsonses and now I'll go back to lurking.

Kenny

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johnty

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Oct 6, 2004, 12:37:04 PM10/6/04
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There's an import tax of around 4.5% and VAT (value added tax) of 17.5% to
be added. So the stuff would have to be at least 25% cheaper to make it
worthwhile.


Pat Williams

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Oct 6, 2004, 3:33:10 PM10/6/04
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"johnty" <nom...@johnty.co.uk> wrote in message
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> There's an import tax of around 4.5% and VAT (value added tax) of 17.5% to
> be added. So the stuff would have to be at least 25% cheaper to make it
> worthwhile.

Depends how much you spend on the equipment for you have an allowance free
of duty which amounts to £135.00. Deduct that from the cost in dollars and
the amount left over you pay an approx 22.5% import tax and vat.


Michael Gwyer

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Oct 6, 2004, 5:44:25 PM10/6/04
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Last time I brought clubs into the UK ( early 2003 ) it was 2.5% duty on
purchase price of golf equipment and then VAT at 17.5% of that total, so
20.4%.

It's especially mean if you're buying mail order as the various duties are
on purchase price plus any shipping and insurance.

If the equipment is used rather than new then it may be treated differently,
hence the UK tourists you see in Edwin Watts asking if they have any golf
bags with marks or dents :-)

For some reason the stores I used would always insist on putting a $120
putter in a "Callaway Golf Most Expensive Driver Ever" box just to ensure
Customs would take interest.

Hope this helps,

Mike.

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John Laird

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Oct 6, 2004, 6:33:37 PM10/6/04
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0100, "Pat Williams" <jp...@tiscali.co.uk>
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>"johnty" <nom...@johnty.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> There's an import tax of around 4.5% and VAT (value added tax) of 17.5% to
>> be added. So the stuff would have to be at least 25% cheaper to make it
>> worthwhile.
>
>Depends how much you spend on the equipment for you have an allowance free

>of duty which amounts to Ł135.00. Deduct that from the cost in dollars and

>the amount left over you pay an approx 22.5% import tax and vat.

Just don't buy one "item" which exceeds that limit, however. (And I imagine
a set of irons would count as one item.) If you do so, it's duty and VAT on
the full value, not the excess.

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Pat Williams

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Oct 7, 2004, 2:09:48 AM10/7/04
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> Depends how much you spend on the equipment for you have an allowance free
> of duty which amounts to £135.00. Deduct that from the cost in dollars and
> the amount left over you pay an approx 22.5% import tax and vat.

I read last night that the amount had gone up to £145.00!

JPW


Albert Day

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Oct 7, 2004, 2:56:52 AM10/7/04
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Hello all,
It is definitely in your own intrests to buy abroad, I have just bought
today two fairway woods in the USA which retail here in the UK for £250.00
the pair.
The total cost for purchase / insurance / shipping by air ( which is 2/ 3
DAYS ) from New York State USA is 126 $ .. thats £71.00p..
I am more than happy to pay my tax and customs dues of 22% , leaving me
well pleased / and in pocket.. and a great service. I say go for it.... no
problems.
Albert.
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John Laird

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Oct 7, 2004, 5:22:48 AM10/7/04
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:09:48 +0100, "Pat Williams" <jp...@tiscali.co.uk>
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>> Depends how much you spend on the equipment for you have an allowance free
>> of duty which amounts to Ł135.00. Deduct that from the cost in dollars and

>> the amount left over you pay an approx 22.5% import tax and vat.
>

>I read last night that the amount had gone up to Ł145.00!

Our Government is so generous. Remind me of the current level of airline
passenger duty, again ? :-(

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Pat Williams

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Oct 7, 2004, 7:17:18 AM10/7/04
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"Albert Day" <ad001...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
> It is definitely in your own intrests to buy abroad, I have just bought
> today two fairway woods in the USA which retail here in the UK for
> £250.00 the pair.
> The total cost for purchase / insurance / shipping by air ( which is 2/
> 3 DAYS ) from New York State USA is 126 $ .. thats £71.00p..
> I am more than happy to pay my tax and customs dues of 22% , leaving me
> well pleased / and in pocket.. and a great service. I say go for it.... no
> problems.

Well just done sit there and gloat, Albert, tell us what they were and where
you got them from.

JPW


johnty

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Oct 7, 2004, 10:37:59 AM10/7/04
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"Albert Day" <ad001...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<UM59d.7699$BI5....@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Hello all,
> It is definitely in your own intrests to buy abroad, I have just bought
> today two fairway woods in the USA which retail here in the UK for £250.00
> the pair.
> The total cost for purchase / insurance / shipping by air ( which is 2/ 3
> DAYS ) from New York State USA is 126 $ .. thats £71.00p..
> I am more than happy to pay my tax and customs dues of 22% , leaving me
> well pleased / and in pocket.. and a great service. I say go for it.... no
> problems.


That's a remarkable deal, though not typical. Where did you buy from?

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Albert Day

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Oct 7, 2004, 11:46:49 AM10/7/04
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Hello Pat. I bought two drivers on the American E bay site direct, this is
extremely easy . There are many on line just waiting to do business... you
must have a good feedback for E bay and deal with a reputable dealer also
with a good feedback. You dont need a a GCSE in maths just a handy
calculator ( or online calculater to convert $ = £ ) but there are many
online auctions. Just compare what is availble between the UK and the USA.
Bid on line in real time with the American punters who tend to bid up to
what they will pay and not haggle... Dont forget shipping + Insurance here
import duty + VAT. Hope that helps
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Oct 7, 2004, 1:08:24 PM10/7/04
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Pat Williams

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Oct 7, 2004, 1:34:31 PM10/7/04
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"Baffie" <any...@anywhere.yuk> wrote in message
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> On 6 Oct 2004 16:25:14 GMT, kst...@comcast.net (Kenny Stultz) wrote:
>
>>If a person from the UK were to travel to the United States and buy a set
>>of
>>golf clubs, what are his tax obligations when he returns to the UK?
>>
>>I know of someone who is planning to do that because he thinks he will
>>save
>>some money, but I was under the impression that it was not really cost
>>effective by the time the tax man and the customs man take their share.
>>
>>Thanks for any repsonses and now I'll go back to lurking.
>>
>>Kenny
> do like a lot of people do - buy a second hand bag from the pro shop
> over there (or get one thrown in for free) and if questioned your
> return (highly unlikely), you DID take em out there with you didn't
> you?

The customs officers are not that daft! Dont you think that clubs are serial
numbered with sources of sale knowledge. I have done similar a number of
times but I know that I am going to get hammered if I get caught, like
Rooney's young lady, the other day. The only time that I had to pay the
extra was when the bag containing them did not arrive with me at Manchester.
I went back to collect it the following day and there it was waiting for me
in the customs bay. "You were going to declare these Sir?" " Of course I was
Mr Customs man!" One of my old school pupils and a very good golfing friend
was head of Customs and VAT at the airport. I could hardly say other.

JPW


David Amos

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Oct 8, 2004, 1:54:19 AM10/8/04
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"Pat Williams" <jp...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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Are we suggesting that people should criminally attempt to avoid paying the
taxes imposed by the UK Government??

I'm shocked. Seriously shocked.

david


johnty

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Oct 8, 2004, 2:06:45 AM10/8/04
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"Pat Williams" <jp...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2sld1aF...@uni-berlin.de>...
> "Baffie" <any...@anywhere.yuk> wrote in message
> news:m0pam0tjq3jl8ln4e...@4ax.com...
> > On 6 Oct 2004 16:25:14 GMT, kst...@comcast.net (Kenny Stultz) wrote:
> >
> >>If a person from the UK were to travel to the United States and buy a set
> >>of
> >>golf clubs, what are his tax obligations when he returns to the UK?
> >>
> >>I know of someone who is planning to do that because he thinks he will
> >>save
> >>some money, but I was under the impression that it was not really cost
> >>effective by the time the tax man and the customs man take their share.
> >>
> >>Thanks for any repsonses and now I'll go back to lurking.
> >>
> >>Kenny

> > do like a lot of people do - buy a second hand bag from the pro shop
> > over there (or get one thrown in for free) and if questioned your
> > return (highly unlikely), you DID take em out there with you didn't
> > you?
>

The rest of us are offering advice for the honest man. Encouraging
lying and dishonesty is probably not what Kenny was looking for.

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