Leeds United. All white in more ways than one...
Stef Walker
"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>
> If they *have* been party to it and...
> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>
So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
shirt, home or away.
And there was me thinking you had an inkling of intelligencia.
Sorry my mistake. At least you had the temerity to say '*have*'
Still, sticking your head up your own arse and thinking about these things
must hold a scatological fascination for you.
Stef.
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susie
If they *have* been party to it and...
If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
I mean, just how much would you *not* condone racism or - just how much
*would* you?
LEEDS UNITED - ALL WHITE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!
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Stef Walker wrote in message <864krk$2cgb$1...@dolf.netfront.net>...
>
>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>>
>
>shirt, home or away.
Just because the lad that took a beating was Asian doesn't mean it was a
racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
Pablo
"Afrika Shox"
susie
@nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
>
>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>>
>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>>
>
>So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
>shirt, home or away.
Oh, fucking hell, Stef, you've got your turnip head on.
*If* the other club(s) have a history synonymous with violent racism...
*If* the other club(s) have a racist fan base...
*If* the other club(s) are linked with NF and Combat 18...
*If* the other club(s) have players who have "paki bashed"...
*If* the other club(s) wear a white strip...
Then yes, ya can guess that. But with the criteria set out above, I
think you can understand why that statement of yours is rather a silly
one.
Err... you're not a Leeds fan, by any chance... are you, Stef...?
I'M A LASSIE FROM LANCASHIRE... UP THE RED ROSE YOU YORKIE HICK
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>In article <864krk$2cgb$1...@dolf.netfront.net>, Stef Walker <stefan_walker
>@nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
>>
>>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>>>
>>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>>>
>>
>>So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
>>shirt, home or away.
>
>Oh, fucking hell, Stef, you've got your turnip head on.
>
>*If* the other club(s) have a history synonymous with violent racism...
>*If* the other club(s) have a racist fan base...
It is a fact that Leeds United supporters received awards in the early 90s
from the FSA for getting rid of the racists on the terraces.
-------------
>*If* the other club(s) are linked with NF and Combat 18...
You are suggesting that the actual club has links with a terrorist
organisation? Better hope that that court case involving Demon goes the
right way or you'll be severly out of pocket . . .
-------------
>*If* the other club(s) have players who have "paki bashed"...
Ditto - no charges have been brought as yet.
-------------
>*If* the other club(s) wear a white strip...
Oh right, so therefore Liverpool and Man Utd must be Communists then. Alex
Ferguson - get out of Tibet you bastard!
-------------
>Then yes, ya can guess that. But with the criteria set out above, I
>think you can understand why that statement of yours is rather a silly
>one.
>
>Err... you're not a Leeds fan, by any chance... are you, Stef...?
>
>I'M A LASSIE FROM LANCASHIRE... UP THE RED ROSE YOU YORKIE HICK
UGG. Listen to the Southerners laughing.
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well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in
the streets and to steal bread.' - Anatole France
PJS
>>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>>>
>>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>>>
>>
>>So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
>>shirt, home or away.
>
>racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
From what details have emerged, there was an argument between two groups
first, one of which consisted entirely of Asians and the other of which
consisted entirely of Whites. It might not have been racist, but it was a
bit of a coincidence.
Martin Lowe
>>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>>>
>>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>Just because the lad that took a beating was Asian doesn't mean it was a
>racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
Well, I don't know about anyone deserving their head jumping on, but you
raise a very valid point.
Of course, this is going to go over Susie's head, as she's purely on a
mission to wind people up, irrespective of logic.
--
Martin
susie
<P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>>*If* the other club(s) are linked with NF and Combat 18...
>-------------
>You are suggesting that the actual club has links with a terrorist
>organisation? Better hope that that court case involving Demon goes the
>right way or you'll be severly out of pocket . . .
I suggested nothing. I was answering a post to mine. The subject being
fans. It's quite clear at the top of my posting:
Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
If they *have* been party to it and...
If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
I mean, just how much would you *not* condone racism or - just how much
*would* you?
LEEDS UNITED - ALL WHITE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!
We were discussing the fans of other clubs and the replica shirts they
wear and what the LEEDS fans would do *IF* thier players were guitly and
*IF* they continued to pull on a LEEDS shirt.
Hope you're gonna treat every post on here with the same cock eyed
vigilance that you're treating mine with. There's loads who would
welcome a friendly warning from PCPJnetcop. Wouldn't want it to look
like you were victimising me, eh? Course, perish the thought that you're
one of those Yorkie throwback hicks who has a problem with...women.
Go and police the pedo sites. Do summat worthwhile with that pug snout
of yours...
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Martin Lowe wrote in message ...
>Pablo wrote in message <864tor$ojm$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
>>>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>>>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>
>>racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
>
>
>Well, I don't know about anyone deserving their head jumping on, but you
>raise a very valid point.
I agree that jumping on peoples heads is going a bit far but initiating a
good kicking is fucking well in order sometimes. I don't think that late
night revellers should discriminate against anyone. If some fucker sets his
lip up outside a nightclub, whatever his colour, he deserves a sound
beating.
If you can't walk the walk - don't talk the fucking talk. I reserve
judgement on the Leeds duo 'til the facts emerge.
For all we know, the Asian lad might have been looking at Bowyers bird. ;o)
Bowyer: Are you fuckin' lookin' at my bird ?
Victim: No mate, no I wasn't !
Bowyer: Why not like ? Are you saying she's fuckin' ugly ? Saying she's not
worth looking at ?
Victim: No ! I just wasn't looking.
*crack*
Pablo
"Afrika Shox"
susie
<marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> writes
>Well, I don't know about anyone deserving their head jumping on, but you
>raise a very valid point.
>
>Of course, this is going to go over Susie's head, as she's purely on a
>mission to wind people up, irrespective of logic.
Martin, come on. First rule when dealing with the psychopath:
Ask the question and don't deviate from it. Observe and await the
answer. Make note of any diversionary questions given in return which
would take you from your line of original enquiry. Listen patiently to
reply, then repeat the question if answer hasn't been forthcoming...
No one has yet answered my question. I thought I was being fair. I said
*if* and *if* again. I did say *if*. I was genuinely interested to see
what would be acceptable condoning - and what wouldn't?
Mind you...it *was* addressed to Leeds fans. And any similarity 'tween
them and the merest of comprehension is purely coincidental - though the
psychopathic hallmark isn't.
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>Martin Lowe <marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> writes
>
>>Well, I don't know about anyone deserving their head jumping on, but you
>>raise a very valid point.
>>
>>Of course, this is going to go over Susie's head, as she's purely on a
>>mission to wind people up, irrespective of logic.
>Martin, come on. First rule when dealing with the psychopath:
>
>Ask the question and don't deviate from it. Observe and await the
>answer. Make note of any diversionary questions given in return which
>would take you from your line of original enquiry. Listen patiently to
>reply, then repeat the question if answer hasn't been forthcoming...
>
>No one has yet answered my question. I thought I was being fair. I said
>*if* and *if* again. I did say *if*. I was genuinely interested to see
>what would be acceptable condoning - and what wouldn't?
I don't think asking Leeds fans if they'd abandon their club because of what
two players would do is a fair question. Would you also expect all Germans
to abandon their country becaue of what Hitler did? Never mind that their
Germany may be the Germany of Goethe, Martin Luther, Christopher Isherwood
and Beethoven - they've got to throw it *all* away because of what one man
did and because you expect them to?
Let me ask some more relevant questions that I'll answer:
Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again if
they are guilty of carrying out a racially-motivated attack?
A: No
Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again if
they are guilty of grievous bodily harm?
A: No
Q: Would you want to see them disciplined over the matter even if they are
exonerated?
A: Yes. They're supposed to be professionals and certainly not involved in
groups beating other youths up.
>Mind you...it *was* addressed to Leeds fans. And any similarity 'tween
>them and the merest of comprehension is purely coincidental - though the
>psychopathic hallmark isn't.
Stereotypes are the building block of racism Susie. And the claptrap that
you're mouthing about Leeds fans and Yorkshire isn't dissimilar to the
stereotypes put about concerning asians, blacks, chinese and Czech gypsies.
Shame on you.
--
Martin
Andy Johnson
lersfield.demon.co.uk> writes
>Hope you're gonna treat every post on here with the same cock eyed
>vigilance that you're treating mine with. There's loads who would
>welcome a friendly warning from PCPJnetcop. Wouldn't want it to look
>like you were victimising me, eh? Course, perish the thought that you're
>one of those Yorkie throwback hicks who has a problem with...women.
Now, now Susie, not all Yorkshire people exist whilst breathing their
own arse breath.
I suspect that PJS (normally a reasonable contributor here) has got a
bit carried away at the thought that the Championship has just slipped
away, courtesy of some stupid antics that were predictable from a bunch
of kids.
Personally, I'd hang 'em and flog 'em... but only if they promised not
to enjoy it.
--
Andy Johnson
Andy Johnson
>Ferguson - get out of Tibet you bastard!
But, I thought that Fergie was a stalwart Blairite, so that make
him...I'll get my coat...
--
Andy Johnson
terry vickers
<snip>
Oh right, so therefore Liverpool and Man Utd must be Communists then. Alex
Ferguson - get out of Tibet you bastard!
Had to slag Man U didn't you..... Sad twat.
--
terry v
"Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
terry vickers
> >> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
> >>
> >> If they *have* been party to it and...
> >> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
> >>
> >
> >shirt, home or away.
>
> racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
>
Well that makes it OK then. :-(
andrew
If we said we wouldn't support the club....
Ha there you go no loyalty!
If we said we would...
You bastard racist!
1) nothing has been proven
2) clubs are bigger than individuals
--
Andrew
"That which does not destroy me makes me stronger"
susie <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>
> If they *have* been party to it and...
> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>
> Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
> matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
>
> I mean, just how much would you *not* condone racism or - just how much
> *would* you?
>
> LEEDS UNITED - ALL WHITE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!
>
> --
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Bernard
if
>they are guilty of grievous bodily harm?
>
>A: No
(neglecting that it might have been a racist attack...there just putting
that in first)
whats so wrong about a little bit of gbh......surely not that bad that you
wouldnt want to see them play footy again......
i mean people get away with it all the time.....
fights happen outside clubs and pubs......loads and loads every week...if
all these people lost their jobs cos of it....it would be absolute
chaos.....
i think this is going a little bit far.......
Ed Stradling
>
> Just because the lad that took a beating was Asian doesn't mean it was a
> racist attack. Maybe the fucker deserved it ? Who knows ?
Correctomundo.
The fact that they beat someone up reflects badly on them. The fact that the
bloke they beat up was Asian is irrelevant unless they beat him up *because*
he was Asian. If so, they should be shot. If there was a more legitimate
reason, they should merely be thought of as not very bright.
Prejudice against people SIMPLY because thet are Black/Asian/Gay etc. is
inexcusable. However, being Black/Gay/Asian does not mean you can't be a
twat.
--
And we'll all be lonely tonight, and lonely tomorrow...
PJS
>>-------------
>>You are suggesting that the actual club has links with a terrorist
>>organisation? Better hope that that court case involving Demon goes the
>>right way or you'll be severly out of pocket . . .
>
>I suggested nothing. I was answering a post to mine. The subject being
>fans. It's quite clear at the top of my posting:
>
>
>If they *have* been party to it and...
>If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
Once again, bollocks. Saying that Leeds chose to play in white because of
white supremacy is on a par with saying that Man Utd play in red because
they are Communists, or Hull City play in orange because they are Ulster
Unionists.
-----------
>Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
>matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
I only have one replica shirt and it's Romanian. Come to that I'm not really
a Leeds supporter anyway.
-----------
>We were discussing the fans of other clubs and the replica shirts they
>wear and what the LEEDS fans would do *IF* thier players were guitly and
>*IF* they continued to pull on a LEEDS shirt.
Right. So, since Marradonna's a crackhead, nobody should ever wear a Napoli
shirt again? And Stan Collymore beat up his girlfriend, so no more Villa
shirts?
-----------
>Hope you're gonna treat every post on here with the same cock eyed
>vigilance that you're treating mine with. There's loads who would
>welcome a friendly warning from PCPJnetcop. Wouldn't want it to look
>like you were victimising me, eh? Course, perish the thought that you're
>one of those Yorkie throwback hicks who has a problem with...women.
Yes, but you're not really a woman, as I've been at pains to point out.
PJS
>Pablo <pa...@spunkbubble.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>The fact that they beat someone up reflects badly on them. The fact that
the
>bloke they beat up was Asian is irrelevant unless they beat him up
*because*
>he was Asian. If so, they should be shot. If there was a more legitimate
>reason, they should merely be thought of as not very bright.
It would, in a weird kind of way, be better if that's what had happened, but
the story that's been put out is that there was an argument between two
groups, one entirely white, one entirely Asian, following which the white
lads chased one of the Asians and stared kicking him. It's a sadly familiar
pattern; it doesn't automatically mean "racist attack" - if one group had
come into town from Morley and the other from Harehills, for instance, you'd
likely get that ethnic mix anyway - BUT it does make it seem more likely.
Stef Walker
> In article <864krk$2cgb$1...@dolf.netfront.net>, Stef Walker <stefan_walker
> @nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
> >
> >news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
> >>
> >> If they *have* been party to it and...
> >> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
> >>
> >
> >shirt, home or away.
>
>
Actually it's my flowering Elderberry head, turnip head is friday.
> *If* the other club(s) have a history synonymous with violent racism...
> *If* the other club(s) have a racist fan base...
> *If* the other club(s) are linked with NF and Combat 18...
> *If* the other club(s) have players who have "paki bashed"...
> *If* the other club(s) wear a white strip...
>
Whooosh.....You sound like a badly edited version of Panorama.
Next you'll be telling me Jon Snow is doing a 1 hour special about the evil
club that is Leeds and it's hordes of Uberfacists that are blighting the
good football community of the Premiership. No doubt interspersed with
speeded up b+w footage of pale face Leeds fans marching to Elland Rd arm
aloft in tribute to Heir Risdale, as Wagner's 'Twilight of the Gods'
screeches away in the background.
Still, you load the hook, and I'll swallow the bait :)
> Then yes, ya can guess that. But with the criteria set out above, I
> think you can understand why that statement of yours is rather a silly
> one.
>
> Err... you're not a Leeds fan, by any chance... are you, Stef...?
Fuck me Sherlock, I thought I was being subtle....Guess not eh?
>
> I'M A LASSIE FROM LANCASHIRE... UP THE RED ROSE YOU YORKIE HICK
>
> --
You can't fucking fool me, I know for a fact that Lassie is a dog.....I
should know I saw the thing in a film called, "Lassie, why don't you fuck
off home?" - So don't call me a hick. I know what I'm talking 'bout.
'Ma, where's that roadkill?'
Matthew Simms
<948336135.14104.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>susie wrote in message ...
>>In article <948310374.17500.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, PJS
>><P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>>You are suggesting that the actual club has links with a terrorist
>>>organisation? Better hope that that court case involving Demon goes the
>>>right way or you'll be severly out of pocket . . .
>>
>>I suggested nothing. I was answering a post to mine. The subject being
>>fans. It's quite clear at the top of my posting:
>>
>>
>>If they *have* been party to it and...
>>If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>Once again, bollocks. Saying that Leeds chose to play in white because of
>white supremacy is on a par with saying that Man Utd play in red because
>they are Communists, or Hull City play in orange because they are Ulster
>Unionists.
Interesting point...aren't they?
>>Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
>>matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
>-----------
>I only have one replica shirt and it's Romanian. Come to that I'm not
really
>a Leeds supporter anyway.
Ah. A Ceaucescu supporter then.
>>We were discussing the fans of other clubs and the replica shirts they
>>wear and what the LEEDS fans would do *IF* thier players were guitly and
>>*IF* they continued to pull on a LEEDS shirt.
>-----------
>Right. So, since Marradonna's a crackhead, nobody should ever wear a Napoli
>shirt again? And Stan Collymore beat up his girlfriend, so no more Villa
>shirts?
I don't think I've seen a Villa shirt outside of Birmingham.
Matthew Simms
<948310374.17500.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>-------------
>>*If* the other club(s) wear a white strip...
>Oh right, so therefore Liverpool and Man Utd must be Communists then. Alex
>Ferguson - get out of Tibet you bastard!
Talk about misunderstanding an issue. So, if a nation is communist, they
must automatically occupy Tibet? The Chinese government didn't take over
Tibet due to Communistic beliefs, rather because it was a piece of prime
land being wasted by a bunch of hippies and blokes called Llama.
Capitalism ain't working...DOWN WITH DEMOCRACY!!
susie
@nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
>You can't fucking fool me, I know for a fact that Lassie is a dog.....I
>should know I saw the thing in a film called, "Lassie, why don't you fuck
>off home?" - So don't call me a hick. I know what I'm talking 'bout.
Yeah, but Stef... Stef, Stef, Stef...
*if* it was racially motivated, and
*if* they were part of itand
*if* leeds continued to play the two lads involved
What action would you take with regards your conscience?
Simple, simple hypothetical question. It's being well dodged and
smokescreened by all who've tagged so far.
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<P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>Yes, but you're not really a woman, as I've been at pains to point out.
Them pains of yours, PJ...? Excruciating, I hope.
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<marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> writes
>I don't think asking Leeds fans if they'd abandon their club because of what
>two players would do is a fair question.
It's a hypothetical question. I want to know just what levels of
condoning or disassociation there are among true fans. I'm not after
slating anyone for what they consider they would do. My question was
very easy to understand. Well set out and comprehendable. Yet, no one
has put their hand up and said: "I'd do this..."
I find that very interesting to note. Nothing sarcastic there, Mart. I
find it of interest, and consider that should my question continue to be
dodged and re-arranged the way it has been, that it would make a
brilliant case history lecture exploring the following:
*Do the supporters (most of which are ordinary everyday members of the
public) find it uncomfortable to marry what they feel they should do
with what they feel they would?
*Is the whole of the newsgroup really racist in avoiding the question
posed?
*Do supporters want to contribute their thoughts but are hanging back to
see what line of condonance is set by other contributers first.
*Do supporters feel theor loyalty to the team they support is being
compromised in answering the question?
These are not my personal thoughts on the subject but are points worthy
of discussion to a group of Shrinks - let alone students.
>Would you also expect all Germans
>to abandon their country becaue of what Hitler did? Never mind that their
>Germany may be the Germany of Goethe, Martin Luther, Christopher Isherwood
>and Beethoven - they've got to throw it *all* away because of what one man
>did and because you expect them to?
Case in point on reverting the question back to me and diverting from
the original post. The above is irrelevant to me with regards what I
originally asked.
>
>Let me ask some more relevant questions that I'll answer:
>
>Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again if
>they are guilty of carrying out a racially-motivated attack?
>
>A: No
A: No.
>
>Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again if
>they are guilty of grievous bodily harm?
>
>A: No
A: Is it standard procedure that all clubs sack players for GBH out of
footballing hours? Then if so, they should be treated likewise.
>
>Q: Would you want to see them disciplined over the matter even if they are
>exonerated?
>
>A: Yes. They're supposed to be professionals and certainly not involved in
>groups beating other youths up.
A: If they are exonerated then they weren't involved and I don't see
how any club can discipline someone for not being involved.
>>Mind you...it *was* addressed to Leeds fans. And any similarity 'tween
>>them and the merest of comprehension is purely coincidental - though the
>>psychopathic hallmark isn't.
>
>
>Stereotypes are the building block of racism Susie. And the claptrap that
>you're mouthing about Leeds fans and Yorkshire isn't dissimilar to the
>stereotypes put about concerning asians, blacks, chinese and Czech gypsies.
Finally. I'm amazed the chants we'ren't picked up on right from the
start. Of course my taunts are racist. But to many, racism is just an
issue of colour. It was of interest to see just how many would answer
vehemently about zero toleration without picking up on the fact that I
was actually labelling folk from Yorkshire.
>
>Shame on you.
Au contraire, Mart. What result was that exam of yours...?
Anyway, we on for a shag...dark horse?
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I tagged, read back in my post about, 'loading the hook and taking the bait'
*if* you only look...
Stef :)
numb...@uksf.org.uk
<An...@woodsetts.demon.co.uk> writes
>>vigilance that you're treating mine with. There's loads who would
>>welcome a friendly warning from PCPJnetcop. Wouldn't want it to look
>>like you were victimising me, eh? Course, perish the thought that you're
>>one of those Yorkie throwback hicks who has a problem with...women.
>
>own arse breath.
>
>I suspect that PJS (normally a reasonable contributor here) has got a
>bit carried away at the thought that the Championship has just slipped
>away, courtesy of some stupid antics that were predictable from a bunch
>of kids.
>
>Personally, I'd hang 'em and flog 'em... but only if they promised not
>to enjoy it.
Pot, kettle, black. You lose.
--
numb...@uksf.org.uk
susie
@nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
>I tagged, read back in my post about, 'loading the hook and taking the bait'
>
>
>*if* you only look...
Well, I looked again, but...this code of yours...it's only fully
operational if both of us know it...
--
Susie's back!
Martin Lowe
>In article <5Hrh4.8911$UL1.1...@nnrp4.clara.net>, Martin Lowe
><marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> writes
>
>>I don't think asking Leeds fans if they'd abandon their club because of
what
>>two players would do is a fair question.
>It's a hypothetical question. I want to know just what levels of
>condoning or disassociation there are among true fans. I'm not after
>slating anyone for what they consider they would do. My question was
>very easy to understand. Well set out and comprehendable. Yet, no one
>has put their hand up and said: "I'd do this..."
Fair point. But a good many of us have been knocking this point back and
forwards when none of us *know* what's gone on. A lot of Leeds fans are just
too busy hoping that it's not true...and find it difficult to focus on the
*ifs* you point out. It's far more comforting to be in denial. But does
being in denial necessarily make us bad people?
>I find that very interesting to note. Nothing sarcastic there, Mart. I
>find it of interest, and consider that should my question continue to be
>dodged and re-arranged the way it has been, that it would make a
>brilliant case history lecture exploring the following:
As someone guilty of rearranging your question, I assure you that I only did
so to try and give you answers in a way I could express them.
>*Do the supporters (most of which are ordinary everyday members of the
>public) find it uncomfortable to marry what they feel they should do
>with what they feel they would?
>*Is the whole of the newsgroup really racist in avoiding the question
>posed?
>*Do supporters want to contribute their thoughts but are hanging back to
>see what line of condonance is set by other contributers first.
>*Do supporters feel theor loyalty to the team they support is being
>compromised in answering the question?
>
>These are not my personal thoughts on the subject but are points worthy
>of discussion to a group of Shrinks - let alone students.
Your last point is a powerful one. Nation; family; social circle;
childhood - being a fan of a football team is a very powerful thing. It can
be so closely related to many other threads that make up the Self. Turn your
back on all that because of one incident? It would have to be a powerful
incident, and you'd have to be a strong person. A lot of people will give
justifications and make compromises. They'd ignore it; change the subject;
blame someone else; shut it out of what it means to be a part of that group.
*If* the worst case scenario happens to be true, and the club stands by the
two of them, then I'd have a conflict that I'd find difficult to resolve. I
don't know what I'd end up doing, but I know for certain that I wouldn't
clap them onto the pitch and I would find some other form of protest a lot
stronger. I just don't know what yet.
>>Would you also expect all Germans
>>to abandon their country becaue of what Hitler did? Never mind that their
>>Germany may be the Germany of Goethe, Martin Luther, Christopher Isherwood
>>and Beethoven - they've got to throw it *all* away because of what one man
>>did and because you expect them to?
>
>Case in point on reverting the question back to me and diverting from
>the original post. The above is irrelevant to me with regards what I
>originally asked.
You can say that, but my example does lead onto an interesting piece of
history. After WW2, the denazification programme not only focused on getting
Germans to face up to atrocities, but emphasised "positive" figures such as
the ones I mentioned. And the programme did not expect its subjects to stop
being Germans.
>>Let me ask some more relevant questions that I'll answer:
>>
>>Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again
if
>>they are guilty of carrying out a racially-motivated attack?
>>
>>A: No
> A: No.
>>
>>Q: Would you want to see Bowyer and/or Woodgate play for Leeds ever again
if
>>they are guilty of grievous bodily harm?
>>
>>A: No
> A: Is it standard procedure that all clubs sack players for GBH out of
>footballing hours? Then if so, they should be treated likewise.
Apparently it isn't standard procedure. I still wouldn't want to see them
put on a Leeds shirt, but Bernard started to make a very good point that
people shouldn't necessarily lose their job after "paying their debt to
society". So by acknowledging that position and softening my approach I'm
modifying my beliefs in order to achieve a form of equilibrium. Or admitting
I was wrong. Your call.
>>Q: Would you want to see them disciplined over the matter even if they are
>>exonerated?
>>
>>A: Yes. They're supposed to be professionals and certainly not involved in
>>groups beating other youths up.
>
> A: If they are exonerated then they weren't involved and I don't see
>how any club can discipline someone for not being involved.
They could still possibly face a charge of bringing the club into disrepute.
Unfair but possible. And even if no action was taken at all, I'd bet that
DoL would still give them a good bollocking.
>>>Mind you...it *was* addressed to Leeds fans. And any similarity 'tween
>>>them and the merest of comprehension is purely coincidental - though the
>>>psychopathic hallmark isn't.
>>
>>
>>Stereotypes are the building block of racism Susie. And the claptrap that
>>you're mouthing about Leeds fans and Yorkshire isn't dissimilar to the
>>stereotypes put about concerning asians, blacks, chinese and Czech
gypsies.
>
>Finally. I'm amazed the chants we'ren't picked up on right from the
>start. Of course my taunts are racist. But to many, racism is just an
>issue of colour. It was of interest to see just how many would answer
>vehemently about zero toleration without picking up on the fact that I
>was actually labelling folk from Yorkshire.
Well of course. Racism is something other people do. It's never your mum, or
the paperboy, or the landlord down the pub. It's always some other group...
>>Shame on you.
>
>Au contraire, Mart. What result was that exam of yours...?
There were many exams...too many. And a lifetime ago.
>Anyway, we on for a shag...dark horse?
Now you're talking. Can I wear my Leeds top?
--
Martin
PJS
>Re: Leeds United. All white in more ways than one...
>
><snip>
>
>Ferguson - get out of Tibet you bastard!
>
>
So you think Alex Ferguson really is in occupation of Tibet?!
Martin Sykes
PJS <P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:948336739.14195.0...@news.demon.co.uk...
> Ed Stradling wrote in message <865n42$qu3> It would, in a weird kind of
way, be better if that's what had happened, but
> the story that's been put out is that there was an argument between two
> groups, one entirely white, one entirely Asian, following which the white
> lads chased one of the Asians and stared kicking him.
Doesn't it worry Leeds fans that they ran after this group for 5/10 minutes
and didn't catch them until one fell over?
PJS
<948336739.14195.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Ed Stradling wrote in message <865n42$qu3$1...@supernews.com>...
>>Pablo <pa...@spunkbubble.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>>The fact that they beat someone up reflects badly on them. The fact that
>the
>>bloke they beat up was Asian is irrelevant unless they beat him up
>*because*
>>he was Asian. If so, they should be shot. If there was a more legitimate
>>reason, they should merely be thought of as not very bright.
>-------------
but
>the story that's been put out is that there was an argument between two
>groups, one entirely white, one entirely Asian, following which the white
>pattern; it doesn't automatically mean "racist attack" - if one group had
>come into town from Morley and the other from Harehills, for instance,
you'd
>likely get that ethnic mix anyway - BUT it does make it seem more likely.
Although now the victim is supposed to have come from Rotherham, which might
make it more likely that the fight was about football.
Andy Johnson
<P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>Although now the victim is supposed to have come from Rotherham, which might
>make it more likely that the fight was about football.
>
>
>
>
It's pretty unlikely that anyone from Rotherham knows much about
football. Seems like a good reason for a kicking though...
--
Andy Johnson
Nick Parsons
>
> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>
Go on then....
> If they *have* been party to it and...
> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>
Baiting the hook a little bit, but go on......
> Would ya stop supporting the club? Would ya just stop going to the
> matches? Would ya just stop wearing that (supremacy) replica?
>
First point, I don't think I would stop supporting the club. Support for
it runs deep and is in no way related to any perceived racism on the
part of the club, the players or indeed the fans. If it was *proved*
that Bowyer and Woodgate were involved and that the attack was racially
motivated I'd hope the club would sack them.
Second point, I'd still go to the games. If the support is as bad as you
suggest then surely as someone who believes they are not racist you
would want me to redress the balance?
Third point, I don't have a replica shirt, so can't stop wearing it. But
it's an interesting point that you think it's connected to the white
supremacist movement. I can't say I've ever viewed white in that way.
I'll have to get rid of all this A4 now.
> I mean, just how much would you *not* condone racism or - just how much
> *would* you?
>
To the point where I'd say that those who have been *proved* to be part
of a racially motivated attack, it it *was* racially motivated, should
be sacked. If there are dickheads amongst the supporters who want to
hold Bowyer and Woodgate up as 'standard bearers' then perhaps it's best
they do go in the long run. If they didn't go I'd find it difficult to
reconcile my feelings.
The whole situation has left a very nasty feeling to what was turning
out to be a really good season. I'm hoping that they were in no way
involved in the attack and were just 'in the wrong place...'. I'm sure
most other Leeds fans feel the same.
> LEEDS UNITED - ALL WHITE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!
>
OK Susie, you've got the brush, someone else is bringing the tar, would
it be easier if we stood in a line?
Nick.
Ren
Ren.
Martin Lowe wrote in message ...
>PJS wrote in message
><948480514.15422.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>
>>Although now the victim is supposed to have come from Rotherham, which
>might
>>make it more likely that the fight was about football.
>
>
>Christ - they're all fucking nutters in Rotherham. They'll start a fight at
>the drop of a hat.
>
>I went to a party there once and nearly ended up in a fight purely because
I
>wasn't from Rotherham. Bit much when you're there just to do magic tricks
>for the kids...
>
>--
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>
Martin Lowe
ec
<marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Christ - they're all fucking nutters in Rotherham. They'll start a fight at
>the drop of a hat.
>
>I went to a party there once and nearly ended up in a fight purely because I
>wasn't from Rotherham. Bit much when you're there just to do magic tricks
>for the kids...
>
Yer mean to tell me it's not like that everywhere?
It is where I come from. If there's nowt else on offer, give the
Magician a good 'dusting down'!
Rounded off many a good Friday night!
Bernard
>It is where I come from. If there's nowt else on offer, give the
>Magician a good 'dusting down'!
>Rounded off many a good Friday night!
the magician.....
surely it cant beat the old favourite of ...."GET THE FISHMAN!!!!!"
Norbert
Are you completely thick as shite or is it just your day off?
This is a team whose motto is "the future is right. The future is white"!
Sure they have a black captain, but he from South Africa and thinks its
normal to be tarred and feathered after every training session (allegedly).
Pack of racist, inbred Yorkshire cunts.
Stef Walker <stefan...@nospammy123-newmail.net> wrote in message
news:864krk$2cgb$1...@dolf.netfront.net...
>
> "susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
> > Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
> >
> > If they *have* been party to it and...
> > If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
> >
>
> So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
> shirt, home or away.
>
>
>
>
> And there was me thinking you had an inkling of intelligencia.
>
> Sorry my mistake. At least you had the temerity to say '*have*'
>
> Still, sticking your head up your own arse and thinking about these things
> must hold a scatological fascination for you.
>
>
>
> Stef.
PJS
>Err,.. Hello?
>
>Are you completely thick as shite or is it just your day off?
>
>This is a team whose motto is "the future is right. The future is white"!
>
>Sure they have a black captain, but he from South Africa and thinks its
>normal to be tarred and feathered after every training session (allegedly).
>
>Pack of racist, inbred Yorkshire cunts.
>
Another alias of Paul Graham/susie/Arthur Thacker . . . yawn.
andrew
Like William Hague, I came from Rotherham.
Its not surprising there's lots of fighting as there is nothing in the town
except pubs, and everyone has lots of energy as they are not busy working in
the steel works or down the pits as the Tories shut them all.
The girls all dress really CFM, unfortunately they then open their mouths..
--
Andrew
"That which does not destroy me makes me stronger"
Ren <r...@wimpleteats.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:86b3ik$j5b$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Fuck i need to get there now.
>
> Ren.
>
>
> Martin Lowe wrote in message ...
> >PJS wrote in message
> ><948480514.15422.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> >
> >>Although now the victim is supposed to have come from Rotherham, which
> >might
> >>make it more likely that the fight was about football.
> >
> >
> >Christ - they're all fucking nutters in Rotherham. They'll start a fight
at
> >the drop of a hat.
> >
> >I went to a party there once and nearly ended up in a fight purely
because
> I
> >wasn't from Rotherham. Bit much when you're there just to do magic tricks
> >for the kids...
> >
> >--
> >
> >Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Martin Lowe
Norbert wrote in message <86bpt9$d2$1...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>...
>Err,.. Hello?
>
>Are you completely thick as shite or is it just your day off?
>
>This is a team whose motto is "the future is right. The future is white"!
>
>Sure they have a black captain, but he from South Africa and thinks its
>normal to be tarred and feathered after every training session (allegedly).
>
>Pack of racist, inbred Yorkshire cunts.
Australia. A paragon of equal rights and a true multi-cultural society.
Not.
Hey Norbert - what about land rights for the aboriginies? Or compensation
for forced adoptions?
And what about that Pauline woman - what's her political party called again?
"The Kick Out The Wogs party" isn't it?
Amazing how many hypocrites surface at a time like this isn't it?
--
Martin
PJS
>
>>Err,.. Hello?
>>
>>Are you completely thick as shite or is it just your day off?
>>
>>This is a team whose motto is "the future is right. The future is white"!
>>
>>Sure they have a black captain, but he from South Africa and thinks its
>>normal to be tarred and feathered after every training session
(allegedly).
>>
>>Pack of racist, inbred Yorkshire cunts.
>
>
>
>Australia. A paragon of equal rights and a true multi-cultural society.
>
>Not.
He's not Australian, it's a fake e-mail addy - he's another Paul Graham
alias.
Martin Lowe
<948589631.22019.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>He's not Australian, it's a fake e-mail addy - he's another Paul Graham
>alias.
You 100% sure? His message headers suggest otherwise...
Anyway, it's by the by.
The interesting thing is that PG knows he's talking inflammatory shite to
get a rise out of people. But the daft bastards who pop up and do nodding
dog impressions don't realise that he wouldn't piss on a Manc if one was on
fire.
And just who do those daft bastards support...?
--
Martin
susie
<marti...@cornedbeef.clara.co.uk> writes
>You 100% sure? His message headers suggest otherwise...
Paul's workload is such that he barely has the time to post his own
stuff, nevermind post as someone else. And as for me? I only *ever* come
out of susie@millersfield. But PG's just got me a new one for my free
weekend. And guess what my name is on that? Weekendsusie. Oh, how's that
for originality...?
You're right, Mart. He's making it up cos he ain't got no witty replies
- the hick.
--
Susie's back!
Chris Raistrick
<5Hrh4.8911$UL1.1...@nnrp4.clara.net>:
>I don't think asking Leeds fans if they'd abandon their club because of what
>two players would do is a fair question. Would you also expect all Germans
>to abandon their country becaue of what Hitler did? Never mind that their
>Germany may be the Germany of Goethe, Martin Luther, Christopher Isherwood
>and Beethoven - they've got to throw it *all* away because of what one man
>did and because you expect them to?
A more appropriate analogy would be if Hitler was still supported by
the German public. What would you think of those people?
I don't think Susie is saying that Leeds's fans should react to what
happened but how they would react if Leeds United turned a blind eye
to a racist attack by their players.
Which, of course, still has to be proven.
--
Cheers,
Chris
PJS
have now employed a solicitor, the same one who took up the Stephen Lawrence
case. This is interesting, since this is a criminal investigation and any
prosecutions will be made by the CPS on the basis of police evidence, so
they don't actually need their own solicitor. Are we to believe they are
anticipating that Woodgate and Bowyer won't in fact be charged, because they
weren't involved and will thereafter need a big name anti-racist solicitor
to keep the embers burning when the celebs are out of the picture, or do
they plan to create a cause celebre and make some money out of it all? When
lawyers get involved, I get suspicious straight away.
numb...@uksf.org.uk
<P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>...and the latest is that when the victim got back to Rotherham, his family
>have now employed a solicitor, the same one who took up the Stephen Lawrence
>case. This is interesting, since this is a criminal investigation and any
>prosecutions will be made by the CPS on the basis of police evidence, so
>they don't actually need their own solicitor. Are we to believe they are
>anticipating that Woodgate and Bowyer won't in fact be charged, because they
>weren't involved and will thereafter need a big name anti-racist solicitor
>to keep the embers burning when the celebs are out of the picture, or do
>they plan to create a cause celebre and make some money out of it all?
Or do we believe that the victim's family have little faith in the
police and the CPS following the Lawrence case and have employed a
lawyer to ensure that things are done properly?
> When
>lawyers get involved, I get suspicious straight away.
Yeah, lawyers huh. What are they doing poking their noses into legal
things?
--
number12
Clique, never heard of it.
susie
<c.rai...@freeuk.com> writes
>A more appropriate analogy would be if Hitler was still supported by
>the German public. What would you think of those people?
>
>I don't think Susie is saying that Leeds's fans should react to what
>happened but how they would react if Leeds United turned a blind eye
>to a racist attack by their players.
>
>Which, of course, still has to be proven.
Thanks.
Ohhhhh, I love an intelligent man. Let me fucking kiss you, Chris.
Before...during...and after!
--
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PJS
numb...@uksf.org.uk wrote in message ...
>In article <948657854.381.0....@news.demon.co.uk>, PJS
><P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>>...and the latest is that when the victim got back to Rotherham, his
family
>>have now employed a solicitor, the same one who took up the Stephen
Lawrence
>>case. This is interesting, since this is a criminal investigation and any
>>prosecutions will be made by the CPS on the basis of police evidence, so
>>they don't actually need their own solicitor. Are we to believe they are
>>anticipating that Woodgate and Bowyer won't in fact be charged, because
they
>>weren't involved and will thereafter need a big name anti-racist solicitor
>>to keep the embers burning when the celebs are out of the picture, or do
>>they plan to create a cause celebre and make some money out of it all?
>
>Or do we believe that the victim's family have little faith in the
>police and the CPS following the Lawrence case and have employed a
>lawyer to ensure that things are done properly?
Well, that lawyer certainly did a great job for the Lawrences didn't he? All
the racist attackers are now safely behind bars.
Oops.
And Leeds isn't London; I haven't heard many public accusations against the
West Yorkshire Police for being racist (cue Susie...)
---------------
>> When
>>lawyers get involved, I get suspicious straight away.
>
>Yeah, lawyers huh. What are they doing poking their noses into legal
>things?
But this isn't a "Legal thing" in that sense. Solicitors don't represent
victims where there is a criminal prosecution. Any hope of objectivity
managing to creep into the proceedings has now disappeared in my humble
opinion.
susie
<nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> writes a damn good reply which I've
snipped out, leaving only this corker:
>OK Susie, you've got the brush, someone else is bringing the tar, would
>it be easier if we stood in a line?
You want covering in stuicky stuff? Ohhhhh get the fffffuck in there
gal!
--
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Nick Parsons
>
> In article <38888A21...@nospamedl.ericsson.se>, Nick Parsons
> <nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> writes a damn good reply which I've
> snipped out, leaving only this corker:
>
You sometimes say the nicest things.
> >OK Susie, you've got the brush, someone else is bringing the tar, would
> >it be easier if we stood in a line?
>
> You want covering in stuicky stuff? Ohhhhh get the fffffuck in there
> gal!
>
If I knew what stuicky stuff was. Is there a recipe? So we on, etc....
Nick.
Nick Parsons
>
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:22:41 GMT, Martin Lowe wrote in
> <5Hrh4.8911$UL1.1...@nnrp4.clara.net>:
>
> >I don't think asking Leeds fans if they'd abandon their club because of what
> >two players would do is a fair question. Would you also expect all Germans
> >to abandon their country becaue of what Hitler did? Never mind that their
> >Germany may be the Germany of Goethe, Martin Luther, Christopher Isherwood
> >and Beethoven - they've got to throw it *all* away because of what one man
> >did and because you expect them to?
>
> the German public. What would you think of those people?
>
> I don't think Susie is saying that Leeds's fans should react to what
> happened but how they would react if Leeds United turned a blind eye
> to a racist attack by their players.
>
> Which, of course, still has to be proven.
>
To their credit, although it remains to be seen if they will follow this
line when push comes to shove, Leeds (and in particular Ridsdale) are
making all the appropriate noises. Whilst not wishing to judge the
players until whatever happened has been proven, he has made it quite
clear the club takes a very serious view of the alleged events and
should the allegations prove true will take action that may include
sacking the players.
The club can do no more, really, than state that they will wait for the
results of the police investigations. If the case is proven I hope they
don't turn a blind eye, even if it means we potentially write off 20
million quids worth of talent.
From a distance I can't tell what affect this has had on the club's
efforts to work with ethnic groups, only from what I've read in the
nationals. That is probably going to be the biggest shame of this
episode as the shit will undoubtedly stick.
Nick.
Number Three
<nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> wrote:
>So we on, etc....
?
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susie
<num...@uksf.org.uk> writes
>>So we on, etc....
>
>?
Awww, don't understand the reference? Hey, there's more than just the
number clique in here, ya know...
--
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susie
<nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> simply oozes:
>You sometimes say the nicest things.
That's cos I'm a nice gal.
>If I knew what stuicky stuff was.
Sticky stuff - with u inside it.
>Is there a recipe?
You wanna cook it some together...?
>So we on, etc....
You bet your sweet arse we're on for...
--
Susie's back!
Peter L
<nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> wrote:
>
>The club can do no more, really, than state that they will wait for the
>results of the police investigations. If the case is proven I hope they
>don't turn a blind eye, even if it means we potentially write off 20
>million quids worth of talent.
>
RED DEVIL
susie
<ne...@abc.co.uk> writes
>20 million? Were the rest of the squad involved as well?
It's Leeds, ya daft bugger. He's talking bags of muck out.
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susie
<REDE...@junonospam.com> writes
>And the ground, and the City
Nay, the whole chuffing county.
--
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Nick Parsons
>
> ?
+
Nick.
Nick Parsons
>
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:10:41 +0000, Nick Parsons
> <nick.p...@nospamedl.ericsson.se> wrote:
> >
> >The club can do no more, really, than state that they will wait for the
> >results of the police investigations. If the case is proven I hope they
> >don't turn a blind eye, even if it means we potentially write off 20
> >million quids worth of talent.
> >
Hehehehehe. Hohohohoho. Oh, you were serious!
Nick.
PJS
In fact the whole of the UK.
Chris Raistrick
<Y191lYCk...@millersfield.demon.co.uk>:
>Ohhhhh, I love an intelligent man.
Mistaken identity.
>Let me fucking kiss you, Chris.
>
>Before...during...and after!
Couldn't step on PJ's toes like that.
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There is no clique. You should know that by now.
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susie
<P...@winwaed.demon.co.uk> writes
>In fact the whole of the UK.
UKSF are racist?
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Bernard
Bernard
and cliquey aswell !!!!!!!!!!!
Stretford
susie wrote in message <+yTMEPCS...@millersfield.demon.co.uk>...
>In article <864krk$2cgb$1...@dolf.netfront.net>, Stef Walker <stefan_walker
>@nospammy123-newmail.net> writes
>>
>>"susie" <su...@millersfield.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:7hD9ADBT...@millersfield.demon.co.uk...
>>> Right fans - Leeds that is. Those two players of yours...
>>>
>>> If they *have* been party to it and...
>>> If they still pull on that glorious white (supremacy) shirt...
>>>
>>
>>So I guess that includes all other clubs that play in some form of white
>>shirt, home or away.
>
>Oh, fucking hell, Stef, you've got your turnip head on.
>
>*If* the other club(s) have a history synonymous with violent racism...
>*If* the other club(s) have a racist fan base...
>*If* the other club(s) are linked with NF and Combat 18...
>*If* the other club(s) have players who have "paki bashed"...
>*If* the other club(s) wear a white strip...
>
>Then yes, ya can guess that. But with the criteria set out above, I
>think you can understand why that statement of yours is rather a silly
>one.
>
>Err... you're not a Leeds fan, by any chance... are you, Stef...?
>
>I'M A LASSIE FROM LANCASHIRE... UP THE RED ROSE YOU YORKIE HICK
>
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Susie - MARRY ME!!!!!!
Stretford
susie
<s34...@student.uq.edu.au> writes
>Susie - MARRY ME!!!!!!
You on your knees?
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Number 8
><s34...@student.uq.edu.au> writes
>
>>Susie - MARRY ME!!!!!!
>
>You on your knees?
It's better to die on your feet.