The True Spirit Of The Beautiful Game
Arthur Thacker
manner of tardy revenge for the stabbing of some Leeds fans a couple of
years back, a pair of Yorkshire yobs who probably had it coming anyway.
Something like a hundred arrests were made and not one of them Turkish. Says
it all, really, doesn't it? But isn't it nice to see that, in this day and
age of butter-wouldn't-melt, goody-two-shoes, nice-as-pie and
let's-have-no-trouble-lads English footy, there is still an element of fans
out there who wish to keep alive the wonderful tradition of the Football
Hooligan? I think so.
Most would argue, but I yearn for the days when rival fans would kick the
fuck out of each other at football matches. Those wonderful, halcyon days of
the great British Footy Fan, when sharpening a coin was an essential
prerequisite for going to the match on a Saturday afternoon; when invading
the pitch to split a copper's head wide open was part of the after-match
celebration; when the ref ran for his life because there were never any
spoilsport stewards there to guard him and make sure he got off the field a
man still in possession of all his limbs; when coons legging down the wings,
their eyes lolling and their afro hair billowing, would be thrown bananas
amid raucous monkey noises and shouts of: "Go home, you black bastard!"
Marvellous days, when you asked the bloke next to you watch your seat while
you went for a half-time piss...and he punched you in the fucking teeth,
pinched your car keys, ransacked your house, raped your wife, strung up your
tabby cat and shit in your ashtrays.
Great days, when the players were all called Bob and Bobby and Jack and
Jackie and Len, Bert, Alf and Trevor. When everyone in the crowd wore a cap
and threw it in the air when a goal was scored, regardless of the scorer or
team he played for. When all you got was a brisk handshake and a dip in the
bath with ten other sweaty and hot-blooded males. Stupendous days, when a
dog ran onto the pitch - it was always a collie or a Jack Russell - and
played with the ball before being carted off by a grinning Bobby in a long
trenchcoat. When the wife asked could she come to the game and you gave her
a slap and told her your tea had better be ready for five o'clock else you'd
knock her bastard head off and give her what for over the kitchen sink. When
games were played in snow - it was always Wolves - and centre forwards and
centre halves encouraged the yob element in the crowd by swinging punches at
each other on the halfway line...and all they got was a wagging finger from
the referee, a six-foot-six retired Sergeant Major who knew real discipline
when he saw it. When the game was played in six inches of mud in the middle
of December, and cup replays went on and on and on until somebody won. When
a sub came on because one of your team had died, and when fires started in
the stand and, instead of running away like that cowardly lot of Bradford
bastards, everyone stood round warming their hands because the bitch of a
wife hadn't bothered to make a flask - a tartan one full of oxtail soup. The
cow. But when you got home she'd know about it - another slap and another
seeing-to over the kitchen sink. And she daren't call the police, because
they'd come round and give her a slap, too. No women's refuges in them days
run by lesbians and cross-dressing social workers. Back then women who
didn't like a playful slap now and again had to stick it, and bloody well
like it, else they got no money and never saw the fucking kids again
neither.
When the only slit-arse at a footy match was the bint who washed the kit and
served the tea in a small kiosk at the back of the stand. When the
tackle-from-behind was a skill, coached into players so they knew how to do
it with maximum effect.
And after the match the opposing sets of fans would gather at either end of
some grotty rundown street of a grotty rundown old town - like them around
Maine Road. And the police, instead of wading in to spoil the fun, would
stand and watch and applaud, arresting only those who were too soft to
really get stuck in. And players and managers would be asked about the
off-the-field violence, and all they would say was: "Just a bit of harmless
fun. It's the kind of behaviour we want from our fans." No life-bans then
for the miscreant footy fan who decided he wanted to stab an opposition
supporter. None of that malarky. Hooligans back then were rewarded by clubs,
given free tickets to the main stand, invited into the directors' box and
fed boiled ham butties. On white bread an' all! None of that good-for-you
grainy brown shit you can buy at Safeways and fucking Asda.
I tell you, hooligans were part and parcel of it all back in those glory
days of the Beautiful Game, and it was all the better for it.
What do we have now, eh? Bloody sitting down because we're all too soft to
stand up. Women at the match, instead of being at home where they belong.
And if the little lady wants to come to see David Beckham's arse she can,
and her bloke can't slap her any more. Swear at your team's shitty
performance and some cunt of a steward - a former bouncer called Jeff -
sidles along and throws you out of the ground. You can't even fart at a
footy game any more without some neanderthal twat coming up and warning you
to keep quiet. Or else. Bloody footballers paid millions and all called Jody
and Ryan and Michael and fucking Emile. For fuck's sake! Emile? If some
bloke had turned up for a trial at Burnley in the sixties calling himself
Emile he'd have been run out of town. With eleven size-nine right boots up
his fucking black arse.
It's time the game of football in this country took a backward step, which,
for me, would mean a forward step. Fuck all this modern nicey-nicey thinking
and play the game fairly bollocks. Arseholes to it. It's all a bag of shit.
There'll be queers playing football next, and I don't just mean the odd
Chelsea left-back or Liverpool midfielder neither. I mean teams of queers.
Calling themselves Bummer United or Faggot Rovers or Preston Bell End.
They'll have their own leagues and everything if we're not careful. The
fucking do-gooders have ruined football in this country, and it's the
hooligan element, like that in evidence last night, which is helping to keep
alive the True Spirit Of The Beautiful Game.
Now fuck off.
Arthur Thacker 2003
Philamental
'Preston Bell-End'!
LMFAO!!!
Sheer genius, Thacker! That's really cheered me up, nice one!
:-)
Phil
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cowarding at home all alone, no girlfriend, no life just a sore bum !
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WTH
diatribe.
WTH
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Sumisdad
<snipped>
You post your racist, sexist, sick shit too often for it to be considered
humour. Any opportunity you get, you try to seek cheap publicity, over some
tragedy in the past be it Munich, Leeds fans being stabbed etc. When you are
not trying to score points in that area, then you use racist crap (the Viv
Anderson post being a case in point) I do not see any irony in what you
post, I just see shite
Sumisdad
WTH
wants to goad you into purporting publicly that you think he is racist,
pro-violence, anti-feminist, when in reality he most likely is not,
otherwise he wouldn't see these things as funny...
He's simply seeing how far he can go with his humour before everyone thinks
it isn't funny. I myself, find it deplorable and hilarious at the same
time. Just like when you laugh at a joke you know you shouldn't but that
just makes it funnier.
I don't agree with any of the crap he wrote, but he writes it so well that I
can't help but laugh at the head of steam he builds up by the ends of his
posts...
WTH
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Theatrix1
the point being made, that Arthur Thacker is writing tongue-in-cheek. He is
probably as sickened as the rest of us at last nights actions of so called
fans.
I resent the British media coining the phrase 'footy fans' and using it in
the same sentance with hooligans... or even 'football' hooligans, which is
almost as distasteful a mis-representation. Genuine fans do not run around
causing violent disorder and general mayhem - they observe the sport and
profer critique where necessary, sometimes good and sometimes bad but never
violent.
Sumisdad
"WTH" <ih8...@spamtrap.com> wrote in message
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> Sumisdad, you're EXACTLY the type of person he writes these things for.
He
> wants to goad you into purporting publicly that you think he is racist,
> pro-violence, anti-feminist, when in reality he most likely is not,
> otherwise he wouldn't see these things as funny...
>
> He's simply seeing how far he can go with his humour before everyone
thinks
> it isn't funny. I myself, find it deplorable and hilarious at the same
> time. Just like when you laugh at a joke you know you shouldn't but that
> just makes it funnier.
>
> I don't agree with any of the crap he wrote, but he writes it so well that
I
> can't help but laugh at the head of steam he builds up by the ends of his
> posts...
>
> WTH
You see it your way and I'll see it mine. So because I hate racism in any
form, then he should goad me. Sorry if I don't see the logic in that. A
simple example would be if I wrote something along the lines that it's all
right to throw bananas at black players, because it's simple irony. Of
course it isn't, it's just plain sick. I've tried to limit my responses to
his posts in the hope he tries to use his "talent" in something more
productive, but it obviously hasn't had the desired effect. At any
opportunity, a racist comment here, a sick jibe there. Where's it going to
end?
People may well say killfile him or just ignore him. I never block anyone
for reasons I have stated on another thread, and to just ignore someone has
the same effect as ignoring the BNP or radical Islamists. If they go
unopposed they prosper.
I believe in free speech be it his, yours or mine. That's why I didn't post
an agreement to the "inform his ISP" post. I'm naive, but I would rather
verbally stand up to him then just let him post his shite on another forum.
Calls for censorship I do not agree with except in exceptional circumstances
(eg. abuse of children). I am not calling for him to be censored, I am just
pointing out that he's an arsehole!
Sumisdad
Jon
>People may well say killfile him or just ignore him. I never block
anyone
>for reasons I have stated on another thread, and to just ignore
someone has
>the same effect as ignoring the BNP or radical Islamists. If they go
>unopposed they prosper.
The BNP are opposed, by the Labour, Tory, Liberal parties and several
others but ironically the BNP prosper recently because of islamic
extremists.
Sumisdad
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Fair point, but at the risk of changing the focus of my original point, I
think you might find that the BNP managed their successes at places where
there was a very low turnout (voter apathy). That is what I meant by
unopposed. If people don't stand up to the issues such as these, then people
who spout this crap are allowed to flourish.
Sumisdad
Ian
"Theatrix1" <anto...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Much as it apalls us all to read such, some people appear to have misread
> the point being made, that Arthur Thacker is writing tongue-in-cheek. He
is
> probably as sickened as the rest of us at last nights actions of so called
> fans.
It amazes me that people don't realise this.
Graham Kidd
contain genuinely funny material. I do undertsand why some find his more
racist/sexist/whateverist material offensive, though. I'm against
censorship in almost all circumstances, but don't believe that that's a
licence to say whatever you like without any sense of responsibility.
The most effective form of censorship is self-censorship, IMO, and when
exercised shows maturity and responsibility.
Bernard Manning uses much of the same language, and I don't think anyone
would call him "ironic".
I think Arthur perhaps should show us his real self, and tell us what
his true values are, so that no-one can be under any misapprehensions
about his almost-funny stories.
Using "shock tactics" in comedy is the soft option - it's much more
difficult to be genuinely funny without it. Try really hard, Arthur,
because I'm sure you have it in you to be funny, and ironic in the true
sense.
I dare you.
Graham Kidd
Arthur Thacker wrote:
--
At the end of the storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet, silver song of the lark.
G@zz@
be made a joke of ?
Everybody would be up in arms if it was Munich, Heysell, Hillsborough or
Bradford City !
--
Regards
G@zz@
If the Futures Bright !!! Why isn't it Blue ???
And
Remember your not a Salmon !!!
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Ian
"G@zz@" <G@zz@CFC.Co.Uk> wrote in message
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> There is tongue in cheek I agree, but should Leeds United supporters
deaths
> be made a joke of ?
One of my favourite films of all time is a comedy based on the holocaust.
It's character comedy, to me it isn't actually intelligent enough to be
genuinely funny but the bad taste is its very root.
You're supposed to be laughing *at* the crass bad taste, not the subject.
> Everybody would be up in arms if it was Munich, Heysell, Hillsborough or
> Bradford City !
I think he has already been there.
BrianE
B.
BrianE
B
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Woody
<itsas...@youllhavetoguess.com> wrote:
>Arthur's posts are often controversial, and I have to admit that they do
>contain genuinely funny material. I do undertsand why some find his more
>racist/sexist/whateverist material offensive, though. I'm against
>censorship in almost all circumstances, but don't believe that that's a
>licence to say whatever you like without any sense of responsibility.
>The most effective form of censorship is self-censorship, IMO, and when
>exercised shows maturity and responsibility.
>
>Bernard Manning uses much of the same language, and I don't think anyone
>would call him "ironic".
>
>I think Arthur perhaps should show us his real self, and tell us what
>his true values are, so that no-one can be under any misapprehensions
>about his almost-funny stories.
>
>Using "shock tactics" in comedy is the soft option - it's much more
>difficult to be genuinely funny without it. Try really hard, Arthur,
>because I'm sure you have it in you to be funny, and ironic in the true
>sense.
>
>I dare you.
What again? To save him the bother look at this:
G@zz@
--
Regards
G@zz@
If the Futures Bright !!! Why isn't it Blue ???
And
Remember your not a Salmon !!!
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>
> "G@zz@" <G@zz@CFC.Co.Uk> wrote in message
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> > There is tongue in cheek I agree, but should Leeds United supporters
> deaths
> > be made a joke of ?
> >
> > Everybody would be up in arms if it was Munich, Heysell, Hillsborough or
> > Bradford City !
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > G@zz@
> >
>
> ahem...
>
> When a sub came on because one of your team had died, and when fires
started
> in
> the stand and, instead of running away like that cowardly lot of Bradford
> bastards, everyone stood round warming their hands because the bitch of a
> wife hadn't bothered to make a flask - a tartan one full of oxtail soup.
>
> have you got your arms up?
>
> dope man
>
>
dope man
deaths
> be made a joke of ?
>
> Everybody would be up in arms if it was Munich, Heysell, Hillsborough or
> Bradford City !
>
> --
> Regards
>
> G@zz@
>
ahem...
When a sub came on because one of your team had died, and when fires started
in
the stand and, instead of running away like that cowardly lot of Bradford
bastards, everyone stood round warming their hands because the bitch of a
wife hadn't bothered to make a flask - a tartan one full of oxtail soup.
have you got your arms up?
dope man
Granulated
<b...@ghost.com> meeped :
>a pair of Yorkshire yobs who probably had it coming anyway.
that's out of order.
Granulated
meeped :
most of the rest is as funny as usual though
AgentGalaXavier
(all Justin Timberfuckinglake and no Keith Facking Richards if you get my
drift)
Are you and Paul Graham Twins???
Cheers
AgentX
p.s. I know Jeff the ex-bouncer and he's a total twat...reckons he was
double-bassing a 17 yr old last Saturday...Cunt
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Tyler Redboye
isn't up to much in comparison to the old days. Young girls just aren't
being taught basic skills such as cooking and hygeinic cleaning. They chase
boys at the age of 12 or 13 and swear, smoke and shout in the streets. I
believe in women being like the good old days too - if dinner isn't on the
table then there's a beating in store. They also demand all to share in the
washing up but don't want to fix the shed for when it's hanging off it's
hinges. That apart ...
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Jean T
Arthur's work.
Neo
Sumisdad
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Sumisdad
Jean T
Stop crying like a tit at the very least then.
Neo
Oss
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(sound of at least one penny dropping)
:o)
oss
Sumisdad
then bully for you. I personally think he's clever but a twat. I find Alf
Garnett funny, because at the end of the day his racist rants just show him
up to be an embittered sad old git who always loses in the end. I
particularly liked the episodes where he ended up with a gay, black home
help. The chickens came home to roost.
I've said elsewhere I don't believe in censorship, and Thacker has the right
to post whatever he wants, and I have the right to criticise it. It's called
democracy. I never killfile anyone and am not going to start now. If you
want to have a sensible debate on the "merits" of his work, fine. If you
just want to come out with imbecilic comments like those above, fine also.
Your choice. I'll deal with whatever approach you decide but I only shut up
when I choose.
Sumisdad
WTH
incident to inflame the issue...
WTH
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Jean T
'Kin'ell. You've actually written something I agree with.
Time to up my medication.
Neo
Sumisdad
LOL
That's the spirit!
:0)
Sumisdad
Jean T
Metaphoidan
Hasn't convinced me yet. Still sounds like a baby tossing his toys from the
pram. Which is just about what you'd expect from someone who despite every
attempt to explain a concept, still just doesn't get it.
Please refer the link in Woody's for a black and white explanation of the
Arthur Thacker phenomenon. Which will probably sail harmlessly over Sum
people's head, again...
Sumisdad
"Metaphoidan" <Metap...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Hasn't convinced me yet. Still sounds like a baby tossing his toys from
the
> pram. Which is just about what you'd expect from someone who despite every
> attempt to explain a concept, still just doesn't get it.
>
> Please refer the link in Woody's for a black and white explanation of the
> Arthur Thacker phenomenon. Which will probably sail harmlessly over Sum
> people's head, again...
I've read the link, and in fact posted it to other NG's. I've stated my
point of view, you have your's. No point discussing it further as I can see
where you're concerned I'd be wasting my time.
Sumisdad
BookMoo
of humour bypass. Often the most liberal peeps laugh at the most outrageous
things because it's a total opposite and more funny for it. And the ones
who take it seriously tend to be the sort of peeps who voted for Thatcher 3
times in a row.