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frankl...@my-deja.com

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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Hi,
I run a website dedicated to cigarette cards and it has a good deal of
cricket content but never enough. I am trying to find an on-line
source which gives the details of top class English cricket players who
were killed in World War Two.

Thankyou for your assistance in advance.

Franklyn
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John Hall

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In article <7qobmn$7ku$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

frankl...@my-deja.com writes:
>I run a website dedicated to cigarette cards and it has a good deal of
>cricket content but never enough. I am trying to find an on-line
>source which gives the details of top class English cricket players who
>were killed in World War Two.

I doubt you'll find that online. Your best bet is to buy (expensive),
borrow or consult at a library (eg the one at Lord's, but you'll almost
certainly need to make an appointment) the obituaries in the issues of
Wisden from say 1940 to 1947.

I don't think too many top-class players died in WW2 (depending on your
definition of top-class). The most notable was almost certainly Hedley
Verity.
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Aslam Siddiqui

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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Several years back the Association of the Cricket Statisticians and
Historians had published the comprehensive list in their quarterly
publication The Cricket Statistician. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to
find my copy of that issue for a while. You may want to contact them
directly through their website.

aslam

frankl...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Hi,


> I run a website dedicated to cigarette cards and it has a good deal of
> cricket content but never enough. I am trying to find an on-line
> source which gives the details of top class English cricket players who
> were killed in World War Two.
>

Ian Diddams

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:33:44 GMT, frankl...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I am trying to find an on-line
>source which gives the details of top class English cricket players
> who were killed in World War Two.


Wisden lists

Kenneth Farnes - Camb., Essex & England fast bowler
Kenneth Cecil Gandar-Dower - Harrow (v Winchester but not Eton - also
tennis Blue at Camb, tennis for Great Britain and amateur squash
champion!)
Robert Prynne Nelson - Camb, Middlesex, Northants, British Empire XI
Maurice Turnbull - Camb, Glam & England. (Also rugby union and hockey
for Wales)
Hedley Verity - Yorks and England.

Depending on "class" definition, Verity stands out, but one assumes
international honours should be equated with such nomenclature, and so
one may also include Farnes and Turnbull .

May they continue to rest in peace.


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frankl...@my-deja.com

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Thanks for the info Aslam, appreciated, do you happen to have the URL
of their website?

Franklyn

richard lighton

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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In article <3UJJyZA$5B03...@jhall.demon.co.uk>,

John Hall <nws_...@jhall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <7qobmn$7ku$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> frankl...@my-deja.com writes:
> >I run a website dedicated to cigarette cards and it has a good deal of
> >cricket content but never enough. I am trying to find an on-line

> >source which gives the details of top class English cricket players who
> >were killed in World War Two.
>
> I doubt you'll find that online. Your best bet is to buy (expensive),
> borrow or consult at a library (eg the one at Lord's, but you'll almost
> certainly need to make an appointment) the obituaries in the issues of
> Wisden from say 1940 to 1947.
>
Alternatively, and easier if you can find it because the obituaries are
all in one place, the Wisden Anthology for 1940-1963. I found my copy
in a second hand book store for UKP 7.50 when I was in the UK last,
and saw at least one other copy.

Kenneth Farnes
Maurice Turnbull
Hedley Verity

are the only ones listed of international significance as being killed
in action. While this is an anthology, I suspect that's a complete list
--remarkably short if it is.
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Mad Hamish

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Sep 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/5/99
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On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:55:32 GMT, di...@usa.net (Ian Diddams) wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:33:44 GMT, frankl...@my-deja.com wrote:
>

>> I am trying to find an on-line
>>source which gives the details of top class English cricket players
>> who were killed in World War Two.
>
>

>Wisden lists
>
>Kenneth Farnes - Camb., Essex & England fast bowler
>Kenneth Cecil Gandar-Dower - Harrow (v Winchester but not Eton - also
>tennis Blue at Camb, tennis for Great Britain and amateur squash
>champion!)
>Robert Prynne Nelson - Camb, Middlesex, Northants, British Empire XI
>Maurice Turnbull - Camb, Glam & England. (Also rugby union and hockey
>for Wales)
>Hedley Verity - Yorks and England.

Ross Gregory 2 tests 2 50s average 51

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Ian Diddams

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Sep 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/6/99
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On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 09:08:15 GMT, h_l...@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Mad
Hamish) wrote:


>Ross Gregory 2 tests 2 50s average 51


Interesting addition, becasue my list came from the Wisden anthology
mentioned by Richard Lighton and from what looked to be an article
from an immediately post war Wisden, and it did't include Gregory.

Was he not English - maybe this "explains" the Wisden article that I
and Richard alluded to.

Ian Diddams

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Sep 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/6/99
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On 4 Sep 1999 07:24:41 -0400, lig...@u1.farm.idt.net (richard
lighton) wrote:

>Alternatively, and easier if you can find it because the obituaries
are
>all in one place, the Wisden Anthology for 1940-1963. I found my copy

>in a second hand book store for UKP 7.50 when I was in the UK last,
>and saw at least one other copy.


Wonderful books. Every time I open one up I find something something
fascinating and new.

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