Reece Topley
Richard Dixon
Essex match which could well go to the wire.
Richard
RH
I saw him playing at Lords last year for the Schools versus ESCA. He
is very tall with a high action and for a 16 year old as he was then
brisk. RH
Richard Dixon
Going to have to pop down to Lord's next Saturday to have a look...
Richard
Adil Rashid
"Richard Dixon" <rdng...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 17-year old son on Don. 5 wickets so far on county debut in the Kent v
> Essex match which could well go to the wire.
>
Never head of him, does he play in Division one?
11 for 114.
a leggie
in April.
Now thats's what a call a bowler, lad.
Richard Dixon
> 11 for 114.
> a leggie
> in April.
> Now thats's what a call a bowler, lad.
Nice to have you on usenet, Adil.
*cough*
Richard
Richard Dixon
> I saw him playing at Lords last year for the Schools versus ESCA. He
> is very tall with a high action and for a 16 year old as he was then
> brisk. RH
Couple more wickets before lunch today. Ticking along nicely.
Richard
RH
I must admit that when I saw him last summer there was another left
armer (Adam ball of Kent) playing who looked the better prospect. I
suspect Ball will play for Kent this year. he bats as well and is a
real athlete in the field. The other young bowler I have been
promoting in the past two years, Tom Milns, is now 18 and has just
played his first game for Warwicks against one of the Universities and
took 4-15 in the second innings. If that boy does not make it in FC
cricket I would be most surprised.
As a footnote, Gloucs now have three pacemen aged 21,20,19 - Saxebly,
Payne and Norwell, who have taken five wickets in an innings in a CC
match this season. RH
Richard Dixon
> As a footnote, Gloucs now have three pacemen aged 21,20,19 - Saxebly,
> Payne and Norwell, who have taken five wickets in an innings in a CC
> match this season. RH
What a wonderfully promising season with regards players coming
through. Topley's 2nd game has got him another 5-fer. Woakes is
currently making hay on the Taunton Road against Mendis et al. - 77
off 79 balls, and I realise you have little to say about James Harris
but he's returning some more excellent figures against the Gloucester
youngsters, currently 18-6-26-3 in his first match of the season.
Richard
Richard Dixon
> Woakes is
> currently making hay on the Taunton Road against Mendis et al. - 77
> off 79 balls
Just got his hundred. Of his 7 fifties, 4 have gone to 100.
Impressive.
Richard
RH
Durham v Yorks
45 4 158 1
Now that's what I call a typical Rashid match analysis, lad... RH
Richard Dixon
And that's one good reason why he shouldn't be considered yet for Test
cricket. Still too inconsistent.
Richard
Mike Holmans
<richsdi...@gmail.com> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:
Rashid's f-c match analyses since the beginning of last season:
v War 1-35
v Som 2-68
v Kent 2-119
v Dur 2-103
v Ess 4-140
v Som 6-208
v Ham 4-65
v Lan 4-121
v Lan 8-136
v War 9-208
v Ess 7-163
v Not 1-104
v Dur 0-28
v Ham 1-114
v Not 2-48
v Kent 4-124
v T&T 4-152
v CCC 3-155
v WWI 6-58
v Wor 11-114
v Dur 1-158
It would be interesting to know whether anyone who wasn't a racist
halfwit would consider that 1-158 is typical of a Rashid analysis,
given that it is by some distance his worst return in 18 months.
Cheers,
Mike
--
Richard Dixon
> It would be interesting to know whether anyone who wasn't a racist
> halfwit would consider that 1-158 is typical of a Rashid analysis,
> given that it is by some distance his worst return in 18 months.
Interesting the run of 4 wickets in 4 games towards the end of last
season that came after 28 wickets in 4 games.
Out of interest, in the event of a Swann injury, would you put Rashid
in as the spinner?
Richard
Mike Holmans
<richsdi...@gmail.com> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:
>On Apr 18, 12:51 pm, Mike Holmans <m...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I dunno. What sort of match is it?
I'd probably pick Panesar for a Test. Not sure about who I'd pick in a
one-dayer or T20. I doubt it would be Rashid, but then I haven't seen
him this season. My spies tell me he was frighteningly accurate at New
Road.
Cheers,
Mike
--
RH
concentrate on runs conceded. Rashid consistently gets knocked about
in terms of runs per over. Every consistently successful legspinner at
Test level has one thing in common: they not only took wicket, they
put a break on scoring. Steve Borthwick's second innings analysis on
the same pitch on which Rashid went for over 3 and half an over was
25.4.4.13.49.3. That is the type of analysis the likes of O'Reilly,
Grimmett, Warne and Kumble returned regularly. Borthwick is similar in
build anbd method to Benaud. He is the best leg spinning English
prospect seen for many a long year. RH
John Hall
<9e84389e-2547-4821...@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>You have unwittingly supported my case. Forget about the wickets and
>concentrate on runs conceded.
> Rashid consistently gets knocked about
>in terms of runs per over.
You can't tell that from Mike's figures, as they don't include the
number of overs he bowled. I looked up his seasons figures for 2010 on
CricketArchive:
Balls M Runs W BB Av
3028 67 1784 57 5-87 31.29
That equates to 3.54 runs per over, which in modern conditions I think
is not a bad figure for a young legspinner.
Here are Borthwick's figures for 2010:
Balls M Runs W BB Av
941 19 618 15 2-22 41.20
He may be very promising, but he is clearly several years behind Rashid
in his development. His RPO comes out at only a shade under 4.
Based on those two sets of figures, in the Durham v Yorkshire match
neither bowler's analysis was typical, Rashid's being untypically poor
and Borthwick's untypically good. Of course Borthwick may turn out to be
much improved over last season, but it's far too early to say.
But we all know that your real objection to Rashid is unrelated to his
bowling ability.
--
John Hall
"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)
RH
> In article
> <9e84389e-2547-4821-ba9d-51a38c6a5...@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
So, his bowling in the Yorkshire match was typical. RH
which in modern conditions I think
> is not a bad figure for a young legspinner.
Imagine him going at 3.54 in Tests. RH
Richard Dixon
> > is not a bad figure for a young legspinner.
>
> Imagine him going at 3.54 in Tests. RH
RH siphons off the stats that fit his theories and ignores the rest:
par for the course !
Richard
David North
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"Steve Borthwick's second innings analysis on
the same pitch on which Rashid went for over 3 and half an over was
25.4.4.13.49.3. That is the type of analysis the likes of O'Reilly,
Grimmett, Warne and Kumble returned regularly. Borthwick is similar in
build anbd method to Benaud. He is the best leg spinning English
prospect seen for many a long year. RH"
It's about time that you learnt that his first name is Scott then.
--
David North
Andy Leighton
Steve Borthwick is an England rugby union lock forward. He is 6'6"
so I'm pretty sure his build isn't similar to Benaud. He does mess
around with cricket - he captained a Saracens All Stars side who beat a
Lord Taverners side last year. Borthwick bowled 3 overs and took 1 for 18.
--
Andy Leighton => an...@azaal.plus.com
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_
Mike Holmans
forth:
>"RH" <anywh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I see that the racist halfwit fails to notice that a side which is
trying to bat out time for a draw is unlikely to be attacking any
bowler, but I suppose that would require an understanding of cricket
instead of genealogy.
Cheers,
Mike
--
Andrew B.
wrote:
> "RH" <anywhere...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9e84389e-2547-4821...@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> "Steve Borthwick's second innings analysis on
> the same pitch on which Rashid went for over 3 and half an over was
> 25.4.4.13.49.3. That is the type of analysis the likes of O'Reilly,
> Grimmett, Warne and Kumble returned regularly.
Actually, it's not the type of analysis any bowler has ever returned,
having at least one number too many...
RH
As you are one of the hard of thinking, here is the analysis without
the very obvious error : 25.4.13.49.3. RH
RH
The name Steve stuck in my head because of the English rugby player
Steve Borthwick. RH