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Is cricket being ruined by yob culture? BBC Vote

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Johnparkin

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Feb 23, 2002, 6:41:18 AM2/23/02
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TODAY'S VOTE
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Is cricket being ruined by yob culture? Should younger fans shut up and
respect the 'gentleman's game'?


Yes - chanting and bullhorns are for football terraces not cricket grounds
240 - (67%)

No - the game needs to modernise and appeal to the masses
118 - (33%)

Prizes awared for how I voted


robert.pollard2

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Feb 23, 2002, 7:01:27 AM2/23/02
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"Johnparkin" <Johnot...@nospamworld.com> wrote in message
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In my view, the futile attempts to "modernise and appeal" [spearheaded by
such luminaries as Lord Tesco, RDVK and Hon.Tim Bt] are partially
responsible -alongside the PC 'tolerance' of the Paki rabble - for the
emergence of cricket's yob culture.
Cheers
Robt P.


Johnparkin

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Feb 23, 2002, 7:38:14 AM2/23/02
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"robert.pollard2" <robert....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Some of us can remember the WIndies back in the 60s, having a very tuneful
following.
The thing I hate is the inane loud music, great in ice hockey, but
fortunately not got a foothold in polluting the CC.

ranjon

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Feb 23, 2002, 8:22:49 AM2/23/02
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"Johnparkin" <Johnot...@nospamworld.com> wrote in message
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You call blowing into a horn constantly, music do you, personally I call it
noise. The horn and the screaming and leaping around, isn't part of cricket,
it actually comes from rave culture. Supporters have to realise the
difference between Headingley and Milton Keynes bowl rave centre, and that
at Headingley you are there to appreciate the skills on the pitch, unlike
the raves where you are told by MC funky cap, to constantly to blow your
whistle, blow you horn, ad infinitum. Cricket needs to modernise in a way
that suits, all people not just the 16-25 year old, hardcore rave bracket.
Better grounds, with more space for familys to enjoy themselves would be an
excellent start.


robert.pollard2

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Feb 23, 2002, 9:25:52 AM2/23/02
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"Johnparkin" <Johnot...@nospamworld.com> wrote in message
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> Some of us can remember the WIndies back in the 60s, having a very tuneful
> following.
> The thing I hate is the inane loud music, great in ice hockey, but
> fortunately not got a foothold in polluting the CC.

Yes, I also recalled the WI 'coke tin' bands whilst considering your thread
opener.
Might I suggest, that whilst the incessant noise eventually got on the
nerves, it did not carry the perceived threat or menace that prevails in
today's spectating rabble - and, as far as I can remember, didn't include
aggressive pitch invasions.........merely harmless solo's when Viv reached
his inevitable ton.
Cheers
Robt P.


ranjon

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Feb 23, 2002, 11:28:14 AM2/23/02
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"robert.pollard2" <robert....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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The WI fans always seem like a good natured bunch, whenever I have seen
England tours in the past. Some grounds have disco's in the ground, but the
volume only goes up at the end of the over and in the lunch/tea breaks.

Like I said in my post above, the idiots that turned up for the triangular
last summer were not cricket fans. They were ravers, who didn't have a
better rave to go to on a Wednesday afternoon, so they come and ruined a
cricket match for real cricket fans. CC establishments (ie Yorkshire) have
to look at how they sell tickets in the future and hopefully they won't sell
out the entire western terrace to opposition fans.

Raving lunatics.


David Buttery

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Feb 23, 2002, 12:34:11 PM2/23/02
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robert.pollard2 (robert....@ntlworld.com) wrote on 23 Feb 2002:

> In my view, the futile attempts to "modernise and appeal"
> [spearheaded by such luminaries as Lord Tesco, RDVK and Hon.Tim Bt]
> are partially responsible -alongside the PC 'tolerance' of the Paki
> rabble - for the emergence of cricket's yob culture.
> Cheers
> Robt P.

Personally, I have no particular gripe about a bit of music (note
the word) and a jolly atmosphere. What I *do* object to is "duh, duh,
Barmy Army" for four solid hours. It's unbearable even on TV - what it
must be like at (say) Headingley I dread to think.

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Eric Ingham

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Feb 23, 2002, 2:59:08 PM2/23/02
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"Johnparkin" <Johnot...@nospamworld.com> wrote in message
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John I see the latest vote is now Yes 427, No 185

I actually think its a bad question in the sense that one should be able to
agree that chanting etc are not appropriate at cricket, and also agree that
the game has needed modernisation.

At Old Trafford our sad p.r. people seem to think that all that is needed is
to string some loudspeakers around the perimiter and blast the innocent
spectator at every available opportunity with some moronic banging and/or
shouting that is classed as "music". The effect has to make thoughtful
enjoyment of the game and the appreciation of its nuances almost impossible.

Cheers
Eric

Of course this happe


Marco

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Feb 23, 2002, 6:01:44 PM2/23/02
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On 23 Feb 2002 17:34:11 GMT, David Buttery
<gplscrapya...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>What I *do* object to is "duh, duh,
>Barmy Army" for four solid hours. It's unbearable even on TV - what it
>must be like at (say) Headingley I dread to think.

I used to think that until I got amongst them in SL last year - it
was totally enjoyable; good-natured and very, very funny!

I agree it sounds awful on TV and Radio though.

KingFisher

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Feb 24, 2002, 5:34:16 AM2/24/02
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"ranjon" <urab...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
CC establishments (ie Yorkshire) have
> to look at how they sell tickets in the future and hopefully they won't
sell
> out the entire western terrace to opposition fans.
>
> Raving lunatics.
>
>

No you've got that one wrong Ranjon. The Western Terrace that afternoon was
full of "so-called" Englishmen, housed, fed and watered on our Social
welfare system supporting Pakistan.


ranjon

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Feb 24, 2002, 12:16:18 PM2/24/02
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"KingFisher" <ang...@fishing.net> wrote in message
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I distinctly remember representatives of both Yorkshire and Lancashire CC,
telling a TV audiance that they were selling all games involving Pakistan as
home games for Pakistan. I don't call this racism, it's more like plonkerism
and it's the kind of crass stupidity that I have come to expect from the
cricket establishment in England. I am considering attending a one day, or
test against India this summer, but I would like to know who the home team
are going to be? England or India?

Does anyone know who the ECB, have elected home team this summer??? Maybe
they have yet to toss for it. I am basing my ticket purchasing options on
this decision.


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