British Spinners
Michael Hulme
(though plays with more heart for his adopted land than many of our
'genuine' players.)
Anyway, it should be asked where the next decent English spin bowler is
going to come from.
Tufnell was the best we produced, and he was relatively mediocre
compared to the bowlers the opposition regularly brought over. Even Carl
Hooper, could he not bat, would walk into our test team at number 8.
Anyone got any tips to lift a young pessimist's hopes? (Yes, cricketing
related tips, thankyou :-) ) I hear Cosker may be useful, as might Yates
and Giles.
--
Michael Hulme - SMRC ChildWise
17-19 St George's Street
NORWICH NR3 1AB
Tim Hall
<mic...@smrc.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Anyone got any tips to lift a young pessimist's hopes? (Yes, cricketing
>related tips, thankyou :-) ) I hear Cosker may be useful, as might Yates
>and Giles.
>
say it all, but between them, the various spinners picked by England
this summer for Tests bowled roughly the same number of overs as Paul
Adams did on his own. Result?
Giles 36-7-106-1
Salisbury 25-3-106-0
Croft 87-20-211-0
Ramprakash 5-0-17-0
A total of 153-47-423-1: even after a series victory, we're not getting
terribly excited by that.
Adams 180.1-58-388-13
13 wickets at nearly 30 an over isn't Shane Warne, but for someone who's
often brought on just to tie up one end and keep the runs down, it's not
bad at all.
The worrying thing is that there was nobody you'd want to bring in, even
if the series had been dead before the fifth Test; and what we did see
was quite predictable i.e. Croft would be economical without threatening
to bowl SA out, Salisbury would bring a big smile to the face of Hansie
Cronje, and Giles isn't a Test class bowler (yet).
As a beleaguered Warwickshire supporter, I must say that I think Giles
came in so soon because he'd already shown himself at international
level as a useful one-day player, and there wasn't much else to choose
from. However, he's still a young player who has been converted from a
medium pacer, rather than a natural spinner, and if he's lucky he'll
have another fifteen years in the game to learn a bit more; and on the A
tour last winter he showed enough to justify another chance, though not
necessarily in Australia.
Unless the selectors are going to play a real wild card, and pick a very
young player such as the Lancashire leg-spinner whose name eludes me, I
don't see the point in any of the spinners who played this summer being
selected for the Ashes tour, other than on the grounds that it's very
hot in Australia, and Gough and Fraser will need someone to bowl lots of
overs while they have a rest.
--
Tim Hall
http://www.indiscreet.com/hornets
"To go to a cricket match for nothing but cricket is as though a man were
to go into an inn for nothing but drink." Neville Cardus
Charlie Ball
>I title the subject 'British' because Croft is, well, not English.
>(though plays with more heart for his adopted land than many of our
>'genuine' players.)
>
>Anyway, it should be asked where the next decent English spin bowler is
>going to come from.
(snip)
>Anyone got any tips to lift a young pessimist's hopes? (Yes, cricketing
>related tips, thankyou :-) ) I hear Cosker may be useful, as might Yates
>and Giles.
Well, Gary Yates is in his 30's already, so, whilst handy (especially
in one-dayers), he's hardly going to be a great new hope. Speaking as
a Lancastrian, Gary Keedy is ok, but not really England class. Our young
leggie, Chris Schofield, though, now he might be useful in a couple of
years.
Charlie
Malcolm Singh
Michael Hulme <mic...@smrc.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<cMbI6EAfcv21Ewv$@smrc.demon.co.uk>...
>
> Anyway, it should be asked where the next decent English spin bowler is
> going to come from.
>
Yeah, the situation looks a bit grim. I think England will have to look at
the next generation now. Maybe there is someone in the U-19 or U-15 who
holds extra promise. What about Swann? Is he a spinner? He took wickets
against the Pakistan U-19 the other day.
--
Malcolm Singh
Views are mine and not Logica's
Keith Lambourne
>
>Michael Hulme <mic...@smrc.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
><cMbI6EAfcv21Ewv$@smrc.demon.co.uk>...
>>
>> Anyway, it should be asked where the next decent English spin bowler is
>> going to come from.
>>
>
There are signs that it's coming back....
Keith
Daniel Moore
probably an Aussie who decides they're British after all. At least it'll
guarantee them the interest of the England selectors, as the
Hollioakes have seen.
>
I hear Cosker may be useful, as might Yates
>and Giles.
Re Cosker: everyone in Glamorgan was excited about him (last year).
He looked really good, but this year hasn't done an awful lot. He's got
quite a few wickets, but has been quite expensive at times. He spins
it more with his quicker ball (because his arm's straighter). He's
young still, and probably already better than most County spinners.
I've never seen Yates bowl first hand so can't comment - as for Giles,
he still looks suspiciously like he should be bowling medium pacers
or something.
>--
Daniel Moore
d...@acorn-gaming.org.uk