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Toby

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Aug 4, 2011, 7:17:18 PM8/4/11
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Having sat out from Saturday's match, I scored for our 2nd XI. I am one
of those people who likes to do everything in colour, and also ball by
ball, etc, etc.

I want to actually learn how to do Linear Scoring (the version that Bill
Frindall adapted).

I've tried searching online for sheets/guides as to how to learn this -
but nothing!

Anyone got an idea?

Cheers

Toby

Brian Lawrence

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Aug 5, 2011, 2:39:15 AM8/5/11
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"Toby" <toby....@gmail.com> wrote:

You can purchase Frindall-style scoresheets and instructions from his
widow, Debbie, at his website:

http://www.beardedwonder.co.uk/scoresheets.html

A starter pack (including instructions) seems to be �7.50.

There is a 28-page introduction to basic scoring here (pdf format):

http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/uploadGallery/umpires-and-scorers/Cricket_Scoring_getting_started.pdf

John Hall

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Aug 5, 2011, 5:10:31 AM8/5/11
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In article <DamdnbiLi_nktabT...@giganews.com>,

I think that Bill Ferguson, who was scorer and baggage master when the
Australians toured England between the wars, was the original inventor
of the style, though no doubt there have been various embellishments
since then. Then Arthur Wrigley, who first scored for BBC radio in the
1930s and carried on till the 1960s, take up the style. So it's possible
that searching for their names might turn up something.
--
John Hall
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Winston S Churchill (1874-1965)

Andrew B

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Aug 8, 2011, 7:04:40 PM8/8/11
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On 05/08/2011 10:10, John Hall wrote:
> In article<DamdnbiLi_nktabT...@giganews.com>,
> Toby<toby....@gmail.com> writes:
>> Having sat out from Saturday's match, I scored for our 2nd XI. I am
>> one of those people who likes to do everything in colour, and also
>> ball by ball, etc, etc.
>>
>> I want to actually learn how to do Linear Scoring (the version that
>> Bill Frindall adapted).
>>
>> I've tried searching online for sheets/guides as to how to learn this
>> - but nothing!
>>
>> Anyone got an idea?
>
> I think that Bill Ferguson, who was scorer and baggage master when the
> Australians toured England between the wars, was the original inventor
> of the style, though no doubt there have been various embellishments
> since then. Then Arthur Wrigley, who first scored for BBC radio in the
> 1930s and carried on till the 1960s, take up the style. So it's possible
> that searching for their names might turn up something.

According to Wikipedia, John Pendlington used it before Ferguson.

max.it

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Aug 8, 2011, 8:07:16 PM8/8/11
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:04:40 +0100, Andrew B <bul...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Joy Smith, Johnny Lyttle, NIACUS, will teach you linear scoring.
It's simple (I'm told), just look 'em up 'they can help'.

Linear is not a required method for scoring international games, but
if you can, then you have the better chance of being 'begged' to
score.


Al Chams

Yokel

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Aug 9, 2011, 6:24:04 PM8/9/11
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Many years ago I acquired a copy of "Frindall's Score Book: Australia
versus England 1978-79". Although now out of print, a search of "Bill
Frindall" in Amazon.co.uk shows that some used copies are available from
£5 each.

This book tells you how the system works, and has the full record of
that series. To cut a long story short, the "linear" system turns round
the traditional system in that the events of each ball are recorded
against the *batsman* concerned, not the bowler. At the end of each
over you have the batsman's running statistics (score, balls faced, etc)
to hand and the relevant bowler's summary (in a column to the right of
those for each batsman) is also updated. This is how a scorer such as
Frindall could have the stats ready for the commentator straight away
while a scorer using the "traditional" method would have some adding up
to do. Because running totals are also kept of things like "extras", it
is also quicker and easier to check the score is correct.

Have a look at the offerings from Amazon and see for yourself how it is
done - and if your imagination is good enough you can actually relive
the matches from those records.

If you want to learn for yourself, the ECB ACO (which seems to have
taken on worldwide responsibility in place of the now defunct ACU&S)
runs various levels of scorers course, the higher ones of which include
linear scoring and should prepare you for scoring at any level.

--
- Yokel -

Yokel posts via a spam-trap account which is not read.

max.it

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Aug 9, 2011, 8:30:33 PM8/9/11
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Siobhan Mcbennett gave a great presentaion on scoring at the Irish
Conference in February past. The theme was T20 scoring. Points made
were to record the dynamics first and then to fill in the stats. For
example the time of the fall of the wicket, and the time the batsman
first faces will be lost or guessed if gone unrecorded.
So she gave you 60 seconds to fill out a score sheet per event.
Not easy, bloody brain damage stuff.

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abh...@gmail.com

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Jun 23, 2019, 10:28:47 AM6/23/19
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Any Luck ? Did you manage to find the sheets?

max.it

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Jun 23, 2019, 8:10:10 PM6/23/19
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Ask some of the umpiring ~(and scoring) associations. Whenever I was
doing the GL6 umpiring ticket there was a few scorers doing a kind of
cross over course. They didn't take the GL6 exam but thay had a
scoring type test to complete. It was all box scoring at that stage.
The GL5 umpiring course was littered with scoring elements, but the
scorers attending didn't really learn anything new. At GL4 level (FC
and timed games) the scorers are really a tight part of the team,
umpires scorers and skippers, extending to groundsman depending on
conditions. There was an intro course to linear scoring at the Irish
union but I don't know if it ever happened.
If you seek out Dr Murray Power or Inge Bergman from Irish association
of cricket umpires and scorers they can help.
I hate scoring cricket matches. I know what to do (box scoring) in
exact detail but I don't like to do it. At least when you are umpiring
you get a few moments to gather your head during the game. Scoring is
relentless, it's like babysitting a bunch of naughty brats.

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