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England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match vs India in Hyderabad

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Jan 24, 2024, 3:36:56 AMJan 24
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England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.


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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/tom-hartley-to-debut-as-england-name-three-spinners-one-quick-bowler-in-wood-1417888

The conditions could even see Stokes flex his reputation for funky
captaincy and toss Root the new ball.

"Again, as I said about the pitches, it would be a complete and utter
gut thing, as most of my decisions like that are. You might even see
Rooty taking the new ball depending on what I feel. If [Yashasvi]
Jaiswal opens the batting you might see Rooty opening the bowling with
that new ball because it's spinning away from the bat."

England XI 1 Zak Crawley, 2 Ben Duckett, 3 Ollie Pope, 4 Joe Root, 5
Jonny Bairstow, 6 Ben Stokes, 7 Ben Foakes (wk), 8 Rehan Ahmed, 9 Mark
Wood, 10 Tom Hartley, 11 Jack Leach

John Hall

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Jan 24, 2024, 5:23:08 AMJan 24
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In message <uoqi75$1o0b5$1...@dont-email.me>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>
>
>England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
>LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.
<snip>

I'm surprised, given Wood's dodgy fitness record. Without Brook, other
than Root's off-spin there's no one who can fill in for a few overs. Ay
least for once England might manage to bowl their 90 overs on time!
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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Jan 24, 2024, 7:18:44 AMJan 24
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On 1/24/2024 2:21 AM, John Hall wrote:
> In message <uoqi75$1o0b5$1...@dont-email.me>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
> <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>>
>>
>> England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
>> LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.
> <snip>
>
> I'm surprised, given Wood's dodgy fitness record. Without Brook, other
> than Root's off-spin there's no one who can fill in for a few overs. Ay
> least for once England might manage to bowl their 90 overs on time!



England thinks that it would be spin pitch and hence it's better to go
with FAST BOWLER Mark Wood rather than old swing bowler James Anderson.

Wood had rest for a couple of months, so he should be fine.


4.5 bowlers should be fine.

You can consider Root a full time bowler on Indian spin pitches, so
England actually has 5 bowlers.

miked

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Jan 24, 2024, 10:47:47 AMJan 24
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John Hall wrote:

> In message <uoqi75$1o0b5$1...@dont-email.me>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
> <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>>
>>
>>England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
>>LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.
> <snip>

> I'm surprised, given Wood's dodgy fitness record. Without Brook, other
> than Root's off-spin there's no one who can fill in for a few overs. Ay
> least for once England might manage to bowl their 90 overs on time!

Yes seems incredibly risky, they must think the pitches are the same
as last time, but if they have to bowl first and find that it behaves
like a normal wkt for the first 4 sessions day1-2, they will be truly
screwed. I think i would have played it safe and had a 2nd quick and
not hartley. then you still have 2 spinners and root.

Patidar the chap who made 140 vs Lions will take Kohlis place. Wow
what a week hes had!

mike

John Hall

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Jan 24, 2024, 12:03:29 PMJan 24
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In message <be15a4575b302865...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>John Hall wrote:
>
>> In message <uoqi75$1o0b5$1...@dont-email.me>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
>><FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>>>
>>>
>>>England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
>>>LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.
>> <snip>
>
>> I'm surprised, given Wood's dodgy fitness record. Without Brook,
>>other than Root's off-spin there's no one who can fill in for a few
>>overs. Ay least for once England might manage to bowl their 90 overs
>>on time!
>
>Yes seems incredibly risky, they must think the pitches are the same
>as last time, but if they have to bowl first and find that it behaves
>like a normal wkt for the first 4 sessions day1-2, they will be truly
>screwed.

The pitch seems sure to spin, and I imagine that it is likely to spin
more as it wears, so England probably have to win the toss and bat first
to have any chance at all.

> I think i would have played it safe and had a 2nd quick and
>not hartley. then you still have 2 spinners and root.

Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
spinner.

Another worrying thing is that ISTR that Wood hasn't often opened the
bowling for England, and when he has bowled with a new or nearly new
ball ISTR that he's sometimes found controlling it a problem. He might
come into the game more later in the innings, as he can get reverse
swing. (But then so can Anderson, albeit at a slower pace.)

>Patidar the chap who made 140 vs Lions will take Kohlis place. Wow
>what a week hes had!

:)

miked

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Jan 24, 2024, 4:55:18 PMJan 24
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John Hall wrote:

> In message <be15a4575b302865...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
> <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>John Hall wrote:
>>
>>> In message <uoqi75$1o0b5$1...@dont-email.me>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
>>><FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>England picked 3 SPINNERS for First Test Match in Hyderabad with the
>>>>LONE fast bowler being Mark Wood.
>>> <snip>
>>
>>> I'm surprised, given Wood's dodgy fitness record. Without Brook,
>>>other than Root's off-spin there's no one who can fill in for a few
>>>overs. Ay least for once England might manage to bowl their 90 overs
>>>on time!
>>
>>Yes seems incredibly risky, they must think the pitches are the same
>>as last time, but if they have to bowl first and find that it behaves
>>like a normal wkt for the first 4 sessions day1-2, they will be truly
>>screwed.

> The pitch seems sure to spin, and I imagine that it is likely to spin
> more as it wears, so England probably have to win the toss and bat first
> to have any chance at all.

its not good when your hope depends on the toss. we're taking on india
in india with dodgy wood, leach, a teeny leggy whos played 1 test and
a debutant 20 yrold. this must be our weakest attack for yonks.

>> I think i would have played it safe and had a 2nd quick and
>>not hartley. then you still have 2 spinners and root.

> Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
> means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
> spinner.

yes but he dont spin it that much as a result or so it seems the
few times i've seen him.

> Another worrying thing is that ISTR that Wood hasn't often opened the
> bowling for England, and when he has bowled with a new or nearly new
> ball ISTR that he's sometimes found controlling it a problem. He might
> come into the game more later in the innings, as he can get reverse
> swing. (But then so can Anderson, albeit at a slower pace.)

yes if your gonna just play 1 quick, make it 1 who can bowl 20 overs
a day and is ultra reliable. but this gamble has happened becos stokes
cant bowl.

mike

John Hall

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Jan 25, 2024, 4:38:47 AMJan 25
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In message <5cc41851ebefaf19...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>John Hall wrote:
>
>> Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
>>means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
>>spinner.
>
>yes but he dont spin it that much as a result or so it seems the
>few times i've seen him.

On this pitch, he won't need too.

I liked the look of him with the bat. He seemed to really be enjoying
himself, with no sign of first Test nerves.

The interval between innings is almost over, so I must go. :)

Hamish Laws

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Jan 25, 2024, 5:35:05 AMJan 25
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On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:38:47 PM UTC+11, John Hall wrote:
> In message <5cc41851ebefaf19...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
> <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >John Hall wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
> >>means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
> >>spinner.
> >
> >yes but he dont spin it that much as a result or so it seems the
> >few times i've seen him.
> On this pitch, he won't need too.

The ball does seem to be changing direction quite rapidly when he's bowling, the question is whether it's too or over the rope

John Hall

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In message <XZO$WZABvislFwN9@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
<john_...@jhall.co.uk> writes
>In message <5cc41851ebefaf19...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
><dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>John Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
>>>means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
>>>spinner.
>>
>>yes but he dont spin it that much as a result or so it seems the
>>few times i've seen him.
>
>On this pitch, he won't need too.
>
>I liked the look of him with the bat. He seemed to really be enjoying
>himself, with no sign of first Test nerves.

Me and my big mouth! He showed plenty of nerves when he bowled. It was
sadly reminiscent of another left-arm spinner from Lancashire, Simon
Kerrigan, who made his Test debut in 2013, was hit all round the park by
Australia and never seen in England colours again. This England
management don't cast players into outer darkness for one bad
performance, though. Hartley was unfortunate to run into Jaiswal, who
showed that he could out-bazball England.

>
>The interval between innings is almost over, so I must go. :)

I might have been happier if I hadn't watched that last session! Still,
at least FBI-etc should have had an enjoyable day.

miked

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Jan 25, 2024, 7:15:22 AMJan 25
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John Hall wrote:

> In message <XZO$WZABvislFwN9@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
> <john_...@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>In message <5cc41851ebefaf19...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
>><dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>John Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently England like Hartley because of his height (6' 4"), which
>>>>means he may get bounce, and because he bowls quite quickly for a
>>>>spinner.
>>>
>>>yes but he dont spin it that much as a result or so it seems the
>>>few times i've seen him.
>>
>>On this pitch, he won't need too.
>>
>>I liked the look of him with the bat. He seemed to really be enjoying
>>himself, with no sign of first Test nerves.

> Me and my big mouth! He showed plenty of nerves when he bowled. It was
> sadly reminiscent of another left-arm spinner from Lancashire, Simon
> Kerrigan, who made his Test debut in 2013, was hit all round the park by
> Australia and never seen in England colours again. This England
> management don't cast players into outer darkness for one bad
> performance, though. Hartley was unfortunate to run into Jaiswal, who
> showed that he could out-bazball England.


so far we have 1 bowler Leach. Its gonna be a long hard day tomorrow.
Innings defeat beckons i reckon. The lions are getting thrashed too.

using up all the reviews in that session seems reckless, i think
root persuaded stokes but it was capt decision so quite poor.
they will regret that tomorrow. hartley bowling 9 overs straight
was pretty foolish, but when rehan came on it got worse. really
playing 2 rookies was extremly risky as i said b4 the match.
plus wood got called for 2 wides in bouncers; are the rules in
tests the same as T20 now?

mike

mike

John Hall

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Jan 25, 2024, 11:28:18 AMJan 25
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In message <794983d0a0f6125c...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>so far we have 1 bowler Leach. Its gonna be a long hard day tomorrow.
>Innings defeat beckons i reckon. The lions are getting thrashed too.

If we can keep India to below 300 we still have a chance. We clearly
need to get Jaiswal out quickly tomorrow. On their averages, he and
Rohit Sharma are by far the two best batsmen in the side.
>
>using up all the reviews in that session seems reckless, i think
>root persuaded stokes but it was capt decision so quite poor.
>they will regret that tomorrow. hartley bowling 9 overs straight
>was pretty foolish, but when rehan came on it got worse. really
>playing 2 rookies was extremly risky as i said b4 the match.
>plus wood got called for 2 wides in bouncers; are the rules in
>tests the same as T20 now?

Bouncers over head high when the batsman is standing erect have always
been wides, I think.

miked

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John Hall wrote:

> In message <794983d0a0f6125c...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
> <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>so far we have 1 bowler Leach. Its gonna be a long hard day tomorrow.
>>Innings defeat beckons i reckon. The lions are getting thrashed too.

> If we can keep India to below 300 we still have a chance. We clearly
> need to get Jaiswal out quickly tomorrow. On their averages, he and
> Rohit Sharma are by far the two best batsmen in the side.
>>

its rather odd that when jaiswal was tonking hartley, stokes didnt
replace him with root for a different spin on the ball. bazball
seems to equal obstinacy sometimes. i think it will need a miracle
to bowl india out with the bowlers they selected. were goin to
have to wait til india declare on saturday probably.

as for the batting it was the usual hit or miss stuff, get in then
lose patience, a few soft dismissals. was snicko working, cos
roots decision took a long time, and pope looked terrible for his
brief innings. clearly hes had no cricket at all since he was
injured, so a big ask to suddenly come into a test, as big an
ask for hartley to open the bowling. Cant believe any other
test team would have chosen such an inexperienced attack.
Must be unusual to have 4 keepers in a team too.

mike

miked

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Jan 26, 2024, 2:10:19 AMJan 26
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Mason Cranes record is under threat if stokes keeps bowling hartley.
bizarre he prefers him to leach or even root. bet he wishes he
had anderson or yobbo or anyone who could keep control.

mike

Richard Dixon

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Jan 26, 2024, 3:55:27 AMJan 26
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The absolute chasm in class of spinners could easily render this 5-0 to the home side.

FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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Jan 26, 2024, 9:05:01 AMJan 26
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Too early to write off England.

This is just the first test.

2nd test is in Vizag. The Pitch doesn't spin that much unless the
curator deliberately makes it very spin friendly.

So England can come back and square the series in Vizag IF it offers
just moderate spin.


miked

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Jan 26, 2024, 9:20:23 AMJan 26
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i bet all those who wernt picked for this tour are now very pleased
they wernt, and are instead earning moolah having a t20 thrash on
a beach somewhere. England made it worse for themselves by their
crazy selection of spinners both for the tour and the test.

plus the lions were close to an innings defeat, b4 a brave innings
by the other Olly R revived them somewhat, and the U19s are facing
defeat by windies in RSA. So not a good day anywhere for england.

to be fair, stokes attacking fields gave the spinners very little
protection, and then they found that Leachs knee or was it his back
was a problem so he couldnt bowl more than a few overs, and our best
bowler was root. its gonna be a long old tour from here; wouldnt be
surprised if several more follow Brook back home.

mike

FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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Jan 26, 2024, 9:56:04 AMJan 26
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Yeah it was a great experience watching test cricket live after a very
long time in India because I have been living in USA for quite a while.


The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
North London respectively.
https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0


Another british family enjoying their holiday two rows down to the left
https://imgbox.com/V9DuEW8k


In the afternoon session, I moved close to the sight screen and another
young lad from Oxford but currently living in Berlin Germany, sat next
to me.


Mark Wood about to start at his run up and bowl to Axar Patel in late
post tea session.
https://imgbox.com/sKqRkyRA


There were quite a few barmy army britsh fans in the crowd in different
sections of the ground.


All in all, it was quite enjoyable especially India doing quite well
after losing Yashasvi in the first over of the day.

I was surprised Stokes didn't bowl Root for a couple of overs in late
Day one.

Stokes was also over enthusiastic in asking for DRS reviews on Day one
during Indian innings.

I noticed Stokes employed a 6-3 offside and onside field OR vice versa
for Jadeja, Axar, Bharat, Rahul for Spinners.

It would be "very difficult" for England to get back into the match
after conceding 175 run lead to India with 3 wickets still in hand.


I think England will go back to two pace bowlers in Vizag, most likely
James Anderson.


John Hall

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Jan 26, 2024, 12:01:15 PMJan 26
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In message <07b6bcbc23eeeb50...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
It seems that Leach has a fitness problem that has restricted the number
of overs he could bowl, which is about the worst possible news for
England. I suppose Hartley has done pretty well to get his rpo down from
7 overnight to 5 by the end of the day. Still it can't be good that Root
has looked our most threatening spinner. With Jaiswal being a
left-hander, it's odd that Stokes didn't give him any overs on day 1.
The chances of Shoaib Bashir getting a game, possibly as soon as Test 2,
must have greatly increased.

John Hall

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In message <0b910509-49ff-4ffc...@america.com>,
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com>
writes
>Yeah it was a great experience watching test cricket live after a very
>long time in India because I have been living in USA for quite a while.
>
>
>The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
>North London respectively.
>https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0

Is that you wearing the shirt with "SURYA" on the back?

>
>
>Another british family enjoying their holiday two rows down to the left
>https://imgbox.com/V9DuEW8k
>
>
>In the afternoon session, I moved close to the sight screen and another
>young lad from Oxford but currently living in Berlin Germany, sat next
>to me.


It's been good to see crowds of 20,000+ on both the first two days.

>
>
>Mark Wood about to start at his run up and bowl to Axar Patel in late
>post tea session.
>https://imgbox.com/sKqRkyRA
>
>
>There were quite a few barmy army britsh fans in the crowd in different
>sections of the ground.
>
>
>All in all, it was quite enjoyable especially India doing quite well
>after losing Yashasvi in the first over of the day.
>
>I was surprised Stokes didn't bowl Root for a couple of overs in late
>Day one.

Me too.

>
>Stokes was also over enthusiastic in asking for DRS reviews on Day one
>during Indian innings.
>
>I noticed Stokes employed a 6-3 offside and onside field OR vice versa
>for Jadeja, Axar, Bharat, Rahul for Spinners.
>
>It would be "very difficult" for England to get back into the match
>after conceding 175 run lead to India with 3 wickets still in hand.

If they could do that, it would probably be the most remarkable
turn-around in a Test in India since India won against Australia after
following on.

>
>
>I think England will go back to two pace bowlers in Vizag, most likely
>James Anderson.

I think Anderson will have to play, whether with or without Wood.
England really needed a bowler who could bowl a longish spell and keep
it tight.

Thanks for the photos.

miked

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Jan 26, 2024, 4:25:22 PMJan 26
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John Hall wrote:

> In message <07b6bcbc23eeeb50...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
> <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>Mason Cranes record is under threat if stokes keeps bowling hartley.
>>bizarre he prefers him to leach or even root. bet he wishes he
>>had anderson or yobbo or anyone who could keep control.
>>
>>mike

> It seems that Leach has a fitness problem that has restricted the number
> of overs he could bowl, which is about the worst possible news for
> England.

yeah hes got a knee problem too, lucky we chose a 3rd spinner heh? ;)

I suppose Hartley has done pretty well to get his rpo down from
> 7 overnight to 5 by the end of the day.

on the last tour bess was dropped cos he got hit about in the 2nd
innings of the 1st test which we won. hartley has been dropping short
every over or full as has ahmed. they wouldnt get 20+ overs in the
CC bowling like that. bowling on a spin friendly wkt like that is a crime.

Still it can't be good that Root
> has looked our most threatening spinner. With Jaiswal being a
> left-hander, it's odd that Stokes didn't give him any overs on day 1.

neither in selection or captaincy has england shown any nous.

> The chances of Shoaib Bashir getting a game, possibly as soon as Test 2,
> must have greatly increased.

yes hes our secret weapon, no wonder india delayed his visa, theyr running
scared of out mystery spinner, its a mystery why he was picked.

mike

David North

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On 26/01/2024 17:06, John Hall wrote:
> In message <0b910509-49ff-4ffc...@america.com>,
> FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes

>> It would be "very difficult" for England to get back into the match
>> after conceding 175 run lead to India with 3 wickets still in hand.
>
> If they could do that, it would probably be the most remarkable
> turn-around in a Test in India since India won against Australia after
> following on.

Apart from that match, no team has ever won a Test in India after
conceding a first-innings lead of 100+. The next highest was also an
India win over Australia, at Mumbai in 2004/05 after trailing by 99.

The highest first-innings deficit by a touring side that went on to win
in India was 65 by Australia at Madras in 1964/65. England have never
won in India after being behind on first innings.

--
David North

jack fredricks

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On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 12:56:04 AM UTC+10, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> Another british family enjoying their holiday two rows down to the left
> https://imgbox.com/V9DuEW8k

Hmmm.. that looks like a standard issue MI6 Casio watch to me.

miked

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Jan 27, 2024, 7:50:20 AMJan 27
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I still think its very unlikely as we just havnt got the bowlers
who can keep pressure on india since they will always gift
them runs every over. depends on the target of course but at least
there will be 1. India could wrap up the innings quickly 2morow
and jaiswal could wolf down most of it in 10 overs if hartley
opens again. i suggest going with root and leach after a blast from
wood.

when i turned on TS, england were 110-1 i think, well we know what happened
next so soon after i turned off. cant stop losing wkts in 2s can we. But
Pope was a revelation, no way i thought he could play such a lone
hand after his first innings, and only a shame that Foakes was the only 1 to
give him support. the one that got him seemed to almost roll under his bat.
a lot of reverse sweeping, pope was dropped off 1, and i spose if he'd
been out that way when he'd only scored 10or20, condemnation would have
followed.

mike

FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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On 1/26/2024 9:06 AM, John Hall wrote:
> In message <0b910509-49ff-4ffc...@america.com>,
> FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> writes
>> Yeah it was a great experience watching test cricket live after a very
>> long time in India because I have been living in USA for quite a while.
>>
>>
>> The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex
>> and North London respectively.
>> https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0
>
> Is that you wearing the shirt with "SURYA" on the back?
>


No, it wasn't me.

I sat right next to this bloke from Essex.


The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
North London respectively.
https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0





>>
>>
I sincerely hope England scores another 75 odd runs tomorrow morning and
set India a 4th innings target of about 200+ so fans can enjoy a
riveting day tomorrow.

Even commentator Kevin Pietersen was hoping for it.

It will be even more enjoyable if India is about 100/3 or 4 wickets
chasing tomorrow, making it a very tense contest.



>>
>>
>> I think England will go back to two pace bowlers in Vizag, most likely
>> James Anderson.
>
> I think Anderson will have to play, whether with or without Wood.
> England really needed a bowler who could bowl a longish spell and keep
> it tight.


Anderson can probably get England 25 overs for 50 odd runs while taking
a wicket or two or even more in Vizag which is NOT as SPIN friendly as
some of the other Indian grounds.



>
> Thanks for the photos.


You are welcome.


FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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Jan 27, 2024, 10:21:10 AMJan 27
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I assume you are talking about this picture.


The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
North London respectively.
https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0



Yesterday when I uploaded this picture to imgbox, I "thought" that I
haven't seen a Casio watch like that in a long time, the one the british
bloke was wearing.

Sorry, Jack for saying this but the evil barbaric back stabbing CIA NSA
FBI MI6 MI5 psychopaths "read my private thoughts" in India via
Satellites, Cell Towers, Internet and other modes and then "remotely
programmed" you to post that comment above.


I have been PERCEIVING remotely programming of thousands of human beings
SINCE 2006 with my ESP and THIRD EYE perception abilities which is why
the EVIL US Govt terrorists and psychopaths think I am "uniquely gifted".

ALL cricket fans on rsc and uksc have been "remotely programmed" to post
comments here MANY TIMES for the last 25 years without their knowledge
and consent.

Hundreds of millions of human brains are already LINKED to NSA HIVE AI
Global Information Grid in the last 30 years including mine and all of
yours EVER SINCE the EVIL US UK govt bastards "reverse engineered" human
brain COMPLETELY in the late 1980s/early 1990s with AI.

NSA Super/Quantum Computer AI is in CONTROL of ALL our brains and there
is absolutely nothing we or anyone can do to help us EXIT the MATRIX
because none of us can CHANGE our UNIQUE Individual DNA Resonant
Frequency with which they CONNECTED our BRAINS to AI.

Here is another example.

In 2006, I read some where on the web a dentist recommending to drink
coke/soda from a can with a STRAW to REDUCE the contact of the acidic
soda with our teeth, which destroys the enamel and color.

So, one day I took out a coke can from the fridge in my brothers house
and started drinking it with a STRAW and "privately thought" that I was
being SMART to protect my teeth.

Within a minute, the EVIL CIA NSA FBI psychopaths "remotely programmed"
my six year old niece reading some book, PROACTIVELY comment "Uncle, you
are being SMART drinking coke with a STRAW".

My brain INSTANTLY perceived at that time that the EVIL CIA NSA MI6 FBI
MI5 ASIS ASIO psychopaths "remotely programmed" her brain to SAY that to
ME, to REMIND ME that they KNEW what was going on in my mind.

But even today in 2024, people think you are CRAZY if you talk about
"mind control".

So, you can IMAGINE the UNIMAGINABLE DECEPTION the EVIL US UK Aus govt
bastards are perpetrating on the entire human species about FAKE
democracy and respect for human rights in the Western world.

EVERYTHING in the West is a LIE.

ALL I am asking you is to LEARN from my me and my TORTUROUS ORDEAL for
the last 24 years.

I have NO MENTAL PRIVACY since around 2002 and neither do hundreds of
millions of humans which they DON'T know yet.

WEF vampires RUN the US and UK Govts from behind.

CIA deep state WEF's chairman Klaus Schwab said this.


"The TECHNOLOGY is SO FAR ADVANCED there is NOTHING any ordinary human
can do anything TO STOP THEM". People will "NO PRIVACY," but they will
somehow learn to LIKE their evolving state of "digital slavery".
- WEF's Klaus Scwhab


Klaus Schwab, TRANSPARENCY, NO PRIVACY, EVERYBODY will have to LIVE WITH IT
https://sendvid.com/ozoo8scc



Biden, Sunak, Macron, Olaf Scholz, Justin Trudeau etc are all NOT
ELECTED by the public, they are SELECTED, ELECTED and INSTALLED by the
EVIL WEF oligarchic elites who RUN the US UK govts from behind and who
USE and COMMAND CIA NSA FBI DHS MI6 MI5 ASIS ASIO CSIS as their "PRIVATE
ARMY".

In the next 15-20 years, the EVIL psychopaths and terrorists in US UK
Aus govs will COMPLETE LINKING almost ALL adult human brains to NSA
Super/Quantum Computer AI and NEURALLY ENSLAVE us all to eternity.

This is INEVITABLE because nobody has the GUTS to FIGHT the EVIL US UK
govt psychopaths and terrorists EXCEPT ME but I don't have power or a
platform to EXPOSE and DESTROY the EVIL vampires.


It's GAME OVER for the entire human species.

The DUMBFUCK LOW LEVEL LOW IQ CIA NSA FBI DHS MI6 MI5 filth thinks that
they are protecting and serving american and british public WHEN in
REALITY, they are SERVING and PROTECTING the filthy rich ruling class
elites of Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Soros, Gates, Larry Fink, Warburgs,
Royal families, JP Morgans etc who are OUR REAL RULING CLASS who govern
our countries AND the world from behind.







max.it

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Jan 27, 2024, 10:33:07 AMJan 27
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 07:21:03 -0800, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com> wrote:

>On 1/26/2024 4:18 PM, jack fredricks wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 12:56:04?AM UTC+10, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>> Another british family enjoying their holiday two rows down to the left
>>> https://imgbox.com/V9DuEW8k
>>
>> Hmmm.. that looks like a standard issue MI6 Casio watch to me.
>
>
>
>
>I assume you are talking about this picture.
>
>
>The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
>North London respectively.
>https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0
>
>
>
>Yesterday when I uploaded this picture to imgbox, I "thought" that I
>haven't seen a Casio watch like that in a long time, the one the british
>bloke was wearing.
>
>Sorry, Jack for saying this but the evil barbaric back stabbing CIA NSA
>FBI MI6 MI5 psychopaths "read my private thoughts" in India via
>Satellites, Cell Towers, Internet and other modes and then "remotely
>programmed" you to post that comment above.
>
On the subject of watches. I've been on the look out for a watch at
auctions and charity sales for years. It's one of the WW2 Dirty Dozen
watches, any one of them would do, even a broken or damaged one but
they're always way too expensive for me and I'm too miserable anyway
otherwise I'd have bought one already.

max.it

drye...@gmail.com

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Jan 27, 2024, 1:07:00 PMJan 27
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3spinners

Funny if England beat India!

John Hall

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Jan 27, 2024, 2:15:24 PMJan 27
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In message <b560b950eb264434...@www.novabbs.com>, miked
<dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>John Hall wrote:
<snip>
>
>> The chances of Shoaib Bashir getting a game, possibly as soon as Test
>>2, must have greatly increased.
>
>yes hes our secret weapon, no wonder india delayed his visa, theyr running
>scared of out mystery spinner, its a mystery why he was picked.
>
>mike

The only rational explanation I can come up with for our spin selection
is that England privately felt that they had no chance of winning the
series whichever spinners they picked, so they might as well pick
promising youngsters who should learn a massive amount from the
experience and thus have their development expedited. But it's hard to
imagind McCullum and Stokes having such a defeatist mindset.

John Hall

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Jan 27, 2024, 2:25:24 PMJan 27
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In message <l1imu7...@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
Well England's heroics today (Saturday) may have raised their chances of
winning from say 1% to 10%. I don't put it any higher than that because:

1. Pope and Rehan Ahmed have to start again in the morning, and there's
not much betting to come after they are separated.
2. India will have a new ball after only a few overs, which being harder
should enable the spinners to get a bit more "nip".
3. The Indian batsmen mostly play spin well, and the pitch has slowed
enough that playing off the back foot is easier because there's time to
adjust.
4. The limited nature of England's spin attack, the most i8mport factor
of all.

Taking points 3 and 4 into account, I think England will need a lead of
over 200 to give them a realistic chance, and even that might not be
enough.

Perhaps the most remarkable thing about England's innings reaching 316-6
is that arguably their best three batsmen, and certainly their most
experienced in Indian conditions, only contributed 18 runs between them.

John Hall

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Jan 27, 2024, 2:35:25 PMJan 27
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In message <9ef71e81-e068-4677...@googlegroups.com>,
"drye...@gmail.com" <drye...@gmail.com> writes
>3spinners
>
>Funny if England beat India!

Four spinners if you include Root, which you definitely should as he's
been the best English bowler. (Admittedly there has been less
competition for that title than one would like.)

John Hall

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Jan 27, 2024, 2:35:25 PMJan 27
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In message <661c16ef-d335-4c1c...@america.com>,
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com>
writes
>On 1/26/2024 9:06 AM, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <0b910509-49ff-4ffc...@america.com>,
>>FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com>
>>writes
>>> Yeah it was a great experience watching test cricket live after a
>>>very long time in India because I have been living in USA for quite
>>>a while.
>>>
>>>
>>> The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex
>>>and North London respectively.
>>> https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0
>> Is that you wearing the shirt with "SURYA" on the back?
>>
>
>
>No, it wasn't me.
>
>I sat right next to this bloke from Essex.
>
>
>The two old british guys to my right in the picture were from Essex and
>North London respectively.
>https://imgbox.com/JScoVzE0
>
Ah, of course if you were taking the picture then you wouldn't be in
it..
Yep. Anyone who bought tickets in advance for tomorrow will be delighted
that they should get a substantial amount of play, when that didn't look
likely when Day 3 started.

>
>It will be even more enjoyable if India is about 100/3 or 4 wickets
>chasing tomorrow, making it a very tense contest.
>

Yep. I think at the moment India remain strong favourites, though, for
reasons I've set out in another post - if not as strong favourites as
they were.

>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think England will go back to two pace bowlers in Vizag, most
>>>likely James Anderson.
>> I think Anderson will have to play, whether with or without Wood.
>>England really needed a bowler who could bowl a longish spell and keep
>>it tight.
>
>
>Anderson can probably get England 25 overs for 50 odd runs while taking
>a wicket or two or even more in Vizag which is NOT as SPIN friendly as
>some of the other Indian grounds.

He will also get reverse swing if there's any to be had.
>
>
>
>> Thanks for the photos.
>
>
>You are welcome.
>
>

David North

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Jan 27, 2024, 3:34:29 PMJan 27
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On 27/01/2024 19:27, John Hall wrote:
> In message <9ef71e81-e068-4677...@googlegroups.com>,
> "drye...@gmail.com" <drye...@gmail.com> writes
>> 3spinners
>>
>> Funny if England beat India!
>
> Four spinners if you include Root, which you definitely should as he's
> been the best English bowler. (Admittedly there has been less
> competition for that title than one would like.)

That reminds me of the 1992/93 series, when Graeme Hick was the only
England bowler to return decent figures. They never used 4 spinners in
the same Test on that tour though.

--
David North

miked

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Jan 27, 2024, 4:50:19 PMJan 27
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I think 200 might be difficult with Bumrah getting the new ball, he was
excellent yesterday, bit tired by the end luckily for england. even quicks
can take advantage of a pitch with variable bounce so if only england
had chosen anderson and robbo instead of wood and PJ, i doubt india would
have got much over 300 and then it really would be interesting. i saw an
interview hartley had given b4 the match where he said he was working
on his carrom ball. i actually misread it momentarily as cannon ball,
which might explain all those half trackers he dropped while bowling.

whatever happens i wouldnt be surprised if england replace wood
with bashir for the next test, theyr so determined to outsmart the media,
rather than actually select a team that might win. its all rather odd
when you think back to pakistan, they had 3 seamers with Leach, Root
and Jacks/ahmed and did pretty well. sometimes when i listen to them, i feel
the england cricket teams become a cult with stokes and baz as high
priests.

mike

jack fredricks

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Jan 27, 2024, 6:57:36 PMJan 27
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On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:25:24 AM UTC+10, John Hall wrote:
> Well England's heroics today (Saturday) may have raised their chances of
> winning from say 1% to 10%. I don't put it any higher than that because:

10% feels too low.
Currently (effectively) 126/6. Another 80 runs, whilst still a long way off, and England will be feeling quietly confident. It's a turning pitch, with a bit of variable bounce.
4 English spinners (inc Root) might turn out to be a good decision.

I'd say 20% chance to win, right now.

jack fredricks

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Jan 27, 2024, 10:58:39 PMJan 27
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On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 9:57:36 AM UTC+10, jack fredricks wrote:
> I'd say 20% chance to win, right now.

BTW, I've come to this number assuming Pope doesn't bring out the reverse sweep in the first 10 overs.

miked

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Jan 28, 2024, 5:40:25 AMJan 28
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I wish we had anderson rather than wood right now. bout time wood
contributed something in this match, i thought the idea of 90mph
bowlers was to blow away the tail, too often ours just give away
runs. i think wood would be far more effective if he aimed at
the stumps more often.

mike

FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:33:43 AMJan 28
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It happened almost exactly like I wanted, EXCEPT the END RESULT today :-((

India let England score 30 runs more on Day 4 than they should have.

Great test match, very tense until the end.

Turning point for India losing the match was Jadeja getting run out in I2.

WHY was Yashasvi SO CAUTIOUS in I2 after playing a BRILLIANT aggressive I1?

How stupid was Siraj to dance down the wicket with a wild heave
especially AFTER Foakes tried to stump him three times AND also after
watching Ashwin get out to a wild heave.

Why didn't the Indian coach and team management send a message to Siraj
to fucking stay in the crease and REMIND him that he is NOT a top class
batsman to play that kind of shots.

It was a tough loss for India after being AHEAD most of the game.

India has been quite often losing the first test in recent years.

Gill has been out of form for a while for India.

All in all, it was a great test to watch for cricket fans.

Well played England and a great come from behind win.

John Hall

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Jan 28, 2024, 12:22:42 PMJan 28
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In message <07dcc085-f36d-485b...@america.com>,
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@america.com>
writes
>Turning point for India losing the match was Jadeja getting run out in I2.

Yes, I thought that too. It also looked as if he might have pulled a
hamstring in attempting the run. If he's unfit for the next Test, that
would be a big loss for *India.

John Hall

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Jan 28, 2024, 12:32:43 PMJan 28
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In message <OVPDn3AqRVtlFw2U@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
<john_...@jhall.co.uk> writes
>The only rational explanation I can come up with for our spin selection
>is that England privately felt that they had no chance of winning the
>series whichever spinners they picked, so they might as well pick
>promising youngsters who should learn a massive amount from the
>experience and thus have their development expedited. But it's hard to
>imagind McCullum and Stokes having such a defeatist mindset.

I know it's hard to credit, but it's just possible that Key, McCullum
and Stokes might know more about cricket than I do. :) Apart from
Hartley's talent as a spinner, it says a lot for his mentality that he
was able to bowl so well after having such a terrible time in the first
innings of his debut Test.

jack fredricks

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Jan 28, 2024, 4:34:53 PMJan 28
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On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 11:33:43 PM UTC+10, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> Turning point for India losing the match was Jadeja getting run out in I2.

A local paper here in Aus described it as "a brilliant one-armed throw by Stokes".
Aren't most throws one-armed?

John Hall

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Jan 28, 2024, 4:57:35 PMJan 28
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In message <ea721d26-427b-4883...@googlegroups.com>,
jack fredricks <jzfre...@gmail.com> writes
>On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 11:33:430 >FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>> Turning point for India losing the match was Jadeja getting run out in I2.
>
>A local paper here in Aus described it as "a brilliant one-armed throw
>by Stokes".
>Aren't most throws one-armed?

Yes, not the best description. He was pretty much facing the wrong way,
but managed a sort of back-handed underarm flick of a throw.

jack fredricks

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Jan 28, 2024, 8:06:24 PMJan 28
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On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 7:57:35 AM UTC+10, John Hall wrote:
> >A local paper here in Aus described it as "a brilliant one-armed throw
> >by Stokes".
> >Aren't most throws one-armed?
> Yes, not the best description. He was pretty much facing the wrong way,
> but managed a sort of back-handed underarm flick of a throw.

Whilst diving.

David North

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Jan 29, 2024, 8:53:36 AMJan 29
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On Sunday 28 January 2024 at 17:32:43 UTC, John Hall wrote:
> In message <OVPDn3AqRVtlFw2U@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
> <john_...@jhall.co.uk> writes
> >The only rational explanation I can come up with for our spin selection
> >is that England privately felt that they had no chance of winning the
> >series whichever spinners they picked, so they might as well pick
> >promising youngsters who should learn a massive amount from the
> >experience and thus have their development expedited. But it's hard to
> >imagind McCullum and Stokes having such a defeatist mindset.
> I know it's hard to credit, but it's just possible that Key, McCullum
> and Stokes might know more about cricket than I do. :)

Even so, they probably can't believe that things have turned out as well as they have, both in this match and since they took over generally, although they probably won't admit it.
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