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Peter Roebuck "It never rains"

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Richard Dixon

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Jan 14, 2010, 5:23:45 AM1/14/10
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Borrowed this off a friend recently and very much enjoying it. I'm
only about a quarter of the way through the book of a season (1983)
that seems to have rained constantly so far (par for the course for
1980s summers!), and he seems to be wracked by the over-analysis that
can do in a professional sportsman. I also thought he'd be completely
detached from the flamboyant Botham and Richards, but talks about them
with much warmth.

Richard

Jellore

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Jan 14, 2010, 5:55:57 AM1/14/10
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I am not sure that Botham speaks of Roebuck with the same warmth.
Personally I think PR is a fool. In his pieces for the SMH he refers
to the English as if they were some alien race.....now that he has
Australian citizenship.

John Hall

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Jan 14, 2010, 6:04:00 AM1/14/10
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<3ccec20f-4bdd-405a...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

Jellore <jel...@bigpond.com> writes:
>On Jan 14, 9:23�pm, Richard Dixon <rdngem...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Borrowed this off a friend recently and very much enjoying it. I'm
>> only about a quarter of the way through the book of a season (1983)
>> that seems to have rained constantly so far (par for the course for
>> 1980s summers!), and he seems to be wracked by the over-analysis that
>> can do in a professional sportsman. I also thought he'd be completely
>> detached from the flamboyant Botham and Richards, but talks about them
>> with much warmth.
>>
>> Richard
>
>I am not sure that Botham speaks of Roebuck with the same warmth.

I think that relations between them soured a few years after that book
was written. IIRC, Roebuck, as Somerset captain, came to the conclusion
that Botham's, Richards' and Garner's celebrity status was harming the
side, and fell out with them.

>Personally I think PR is a fool. In his pieces for the SMH he refers
>to the English as if they were some alien race.....now that he has
>Australian citizenship.

Back in the early eighties he wrote like a dream, but he seems to have
become rather strange subsequently.
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

David North

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Jan 14, 2010, 8:44:30 AM1/14/10
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"Jellore" <jel...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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--

He came to mind when I read RH claiming that people can't change nationality
once they reach adulthood.
--
David North


Richard Dixon

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Jan 14, 2010, 11:21:01 AM1/14/10
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On 14 Jan, 11:04, John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

> Back in the early eighties he wrote like a dream, but he seems to have
> become rather strange subsequently.

I can testify to that - it's a thoughtful and insightful read.

Richard

Robert Henderson

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Jan 14, 2010, 11:29:19 AM1/14/10
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In message <7r8lhp...@mid.individual.net>, David North
<dno...@abbeymanor.fsbusiness.co.uk> writes

>
>"I am not sure that Botham speaks of Roebuck with the same warmth.
>Personally I think PR is a fool. In his pieces for the SMH he refers to
>the English as if they were some alien race.....now that he has
>Australian citizenship."
>
>--
>
>He came to mind when I read RH claiming that people can't change
>nationality once they reach adulthood.

Roebuck left England in disgrace and embarrassment (he had a penchant
for caning young cricketers in his care). That is why he attacks his
homeland so obsessively. It also helped to get him a career in Oz
journalism and broadcasting, his journalistic career being in severe
doubt after the court case which disgraced him. Rather odd that Oz have
granted him citizenship in view of his troubles in England. rH
--
Robert Henderson
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

Richard Dixon

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Jan 15, 2010, 6:03:06 AM1/15/10
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On 14 Jan, 16:29, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Roebuck left England in disgrace and embarrassment (he had a penchant
> for caning young cricketers in his care).  That is why he attacks his
> homeland so obsessively. It also helped to get him a career in Oz
> journalism and broadcasting, his journalistic career being in severe
> doubt after the court case which disgraced him. Rather odd that Oz have
> granted him citizenship in view of his troubles in England.  rH

Given the tone of his book that I'm enjoying, I struggle to believe
the character you talk about above, what a turnaround in character. Or
maybe it's just well-concealed in the book. But goodness - yes -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1608831.stm

Mind you at the age of 27 on the back cover he already looks like a
middle-aged vicar !

Richard

Mal

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Jan 15, 2010, 9:10:49 AM1/15/10
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He already had a career in journalism which he then resumed. He often
spent northern summers in the UK especially while captaining Devon.

Having a penchant is worded to imply deviancy which it's obviously not.
They were 19yo Saffers! Think they could have stopped him if they'd felt
strongly about it.

And he doesn't regularly rubbish England. Criticizes but why not. Plenty
to question but he's usually thoughtful and constructive.

Robert Henderson

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Jan 15, 2010, 2:21:13 PM1/15/10
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In message
<5d8bc704-3b87-4f19...@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Richard Dixon <rdng...@yahoo.co.uk> writes

>Given the tone of his book that I'm enjoying, I struggle to believe the
>character you talk about above, what a turnaround in character. Or
>maybe it's just well-concealed in the book. But goodness - yes -
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1608831.stm
>
>Mind you at the age of 27 on the back cover he already looks like a
>middle-aged vicar !


Unpleasant to look at. . RH
>
>Richard

Robert Henderson

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Jan 16, 2010, 2:23:05 AM1/16/10
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In message <foednTL71aE56s3W...@westnet.com.au>, Mal
<m...@privacy.net> writes

>Having a penchant is worded to imply deviancy which it's obviously not.


So you think regularly caning the bottoms of young males is normal? RH

>They were 19yo Saffers! Think they could have stopped him if they'd
>felt strongly about it.

--

Richard Dixon

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Jan 16, 2010, 10:33:46 AM1/16/10
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On 16 Jan, 07:23, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> In message <foednTL71aE56s3WnZ2dnUVZ_vudn...@westnet.com.au>, Mal

> <m...@privacy.net> writes
>
> >Having a penchant is worded to imply deviancy which it's obviously not.
>
> So you think regularly caning the bottoms of young males is normal? RH

Very 1950s !!

Richard

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