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chandelle
Apr 1, 2021, 2:29:27 AM4/1/21
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The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son. Atherton's Cricinfo profile page, however, doesn't show JdC as his son. The name too is not very intuitive in that it doesn't contain Atherton as surname.
Btw, this is probably that strange, brief time of the year where cricket is concurrently played at such geographical extremities as Leeds and Dunedin.
Btw, this is probably that strange, brief time of the year where cricket is concurrently played at such geographical extremities as Leeds and Dunedin.
David North
Apr 1, 2021, 3:53:34 AM4/1/21
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On 01/04/2021 07:29, chandelle wrote:
> The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son.
That answers the question "Who Caires?".
> The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son.
Sorry.
> Atherton's Cricinfo profile page, however, doesn't show JdC as his son. The name too is not very intuitive in that it doesn't contain Atherton as surname.
show Atherton as his father and Frank de Caires (West Indies) as his
great-grandfather, it also shows David de Caires (whose only match on
their database was for Stonyhurst College in 1954) as his grandfather
and Chris Atherton (Brighton & Hove and Woodhouses) as his uncle. Of
course, you'll need a subscription to see it.
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John Hall
Apr 1, 2021, 4:16:25 AM4/1/21
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In message <iclcfs...@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
never married or else soon separated, and he was brought up by his
mother. He has the distinction of probably having the most
exotic-sounding name of any current English cricketer.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon
<nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>CricketArchive does much better. On Josh's profile, not only does it
>show Atherton as his father and Frank de Caires (West Indies) as his
>great-grandfather, it also shows David de Caires (whose only match on
>their database was for Stonyhurst College in 1954) as his grandfather
>and Chris Atherton (Brighton & Hove and Woodhouses) as his uncle. Of
>course, you'll need a subscription to see it.
So presumably "de Caires" is his mother's name. Perhaps his parents
>show Atherton as his father and Frank de Caires (West Indies) as his
>great-grandfather, it also shows David de Caires (whose only match on
>their database was for Stonyhurst College in 1954) as his grandfather
>and Chris Atherton (Brighton & Hove and Woodhouses) as his uncle. Of
>course, you'll need a subscription to see it.
never married or else soon separated, and he was brought up by his
mother. He has the distinction of probably having the most
exotic-sounding name of any current English cricketer.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon
Richard Dixon
Apr 1, 2021, 9:42:44 AM4/1/21
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On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 09:16:25 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> So presumably "de Caires" is his mother's name. Perhaps his parents
> never married or else soon separated, and he was brought up by his
> mother. He has the distinction of probably having the most
> exotic-sounding name of any current English cricketer.
They're not divorced. I think if he's making his way in cricket maybe he didn't want the attention that the surname brought - although as you might expect people will soon find out. Can you imagine Atherton having to commentate on his own son?! I wonder if CMJ ever found himself commentating on RMJ?
> So presumably "de Caires" is his mother's name. Perhaps his parents
> never married or else soon separated, and he was brought up by his
> mother. He has the distinction of probably having the most
> exotic-sounding name of any current English cricketer.
Richard
Mike Holmans
Apr 1, 2021, 10:14:14 AM4/1/21
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foreigner, since he's another Mark Butcher.
Cheers,
Mike
RH156RH
Apr 1, 2021, 11:15:24 AM4/1/21
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On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 07:29:27 UTC+1, chandelle wrote:
> The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son. Atherton's Cricinfo profile page, however, doesn't show JdC as his son. The name too is not very intuitive in that it doesn't contain Atherton as surname.
It is his mother's name ... RH
> The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son. Atherton's Cricinfo profile page, however, doesn't show JdC as his son. The name too is not very intuitive in that it doesn't contain Atherton as surname.
Richard Dixon
Apr 1, 2021, 11:24:27 AM4/1/21
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On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 15:14:14 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
> He wanted to make it easy for the imbecile to identify him as a
> foreigner, since he's another Mark Butcher.
We all wait with baited breath for the RH proclamation whether he's English or not...
> He wanted to make it easy for the imbecile to identify him as a
> foreigner, since he's another Mark Butcher.
But always remember: RH thinks Sam Curran has an English accent.
RH156RH
Apr 1, 2021, 1:51:49 PM4/1/21
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RH156RH
Apr 1, 2021, 2:00:27 PM4/1/21
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On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 16:24:27 UTC+1, richsdi...@gmail.com wrote:
And again
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Josh+de+caires&sxsrf=ALeKk02iucPnS-Vq0A9Z76PWhB5y_--IgA:1617299765963&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjm9K2Qz93vAhWS_7sIHRucASYQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1067&bih=502
Of course all cases are under constant review. His surname is pronounced dees Carays .. RH
Mike Holmans
Apr 1, 2021, 2:19:38 PM4/1/21
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:24:26 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
<richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 15:14:14 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
>> He wanted to make it easy for the imbecile to identify him as a
>> foreigner, since he's another Mark Butcher.
>
>We all wait with baited breath for the RH proclamation whether he's English or not...
Translation: let's see how much of a fool of himself the imbecile will
<richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 15:14:14 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
>> He wanted to make it easy for the imbecile to identify him as a
>> foreigner, since he's another Mark Butcher.
>
>We all wait with baited breath for the RH proclamation whether he's English or not...
make.
>But always remember: RH thinks Sam Curran has an English accent.
of the word. He just says what he would like to be true, regardless of
the facts.
Cheers,
Mike
RH156RH
Apr 2, 2021, 4:30:51 AM4/2/21
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Richard Dixon
Apr 2, 2021, 7:48:15 AM4/2/21
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On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:00:27 UTC+1, anywh...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Of course all cases are under constant review.
Oh the oozing of self-importance! I do love the fact that RH thinks his opinion actually makes a jot of a difference to De Caires' chances.
> Of course all cases are under constant review.
Brian Lawrence
Apr 2, 2021, 9:25:55 AM4/2/21
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On 01/04/2021 07:29, chandelle wrote:
> The recent century by JdC has been widely reported, not least because he's Atherton's son. Atherton's Cricinfo profile page, however, doesn't show JdC as his son. The name too is not very intuitive in that it doesn't contain Atherton as surname.
>
> Btw, this is probably that strange, brief time of the year where cricket is concurrently played at such geographical extremities as Leeds and Dunedin.
Article about his grandfather David de Caires:
>
> Btw, this is probably that strange, brief time of the year where cricket is concurrently played at such geographical extremities as Leeds and Dunedin.
<https://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/12/10/guyana-review/david-de-caires-man-mission-and-the-media/.
Stabroek news was founded by David de Caires. The de Caires family were
originally from Portugal, most likely from Madeira.
The paper reported that Josh de Caires had signed for Middlesex on 9 Sep
last year:
<https://www.stabroeknews.com/2020/09/09/sports/middlesex-signs-josh-de-caires/>
Mike Holmans
Apr 2, 2021, 9:43:44 AM4/2/21
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usually claims is invariable, is actually subject to constant review.
At any moment, our pathetic windbag can announce that someone has
become, or has stopped being, "English" - whatever he decides being
English cureently means, since that changes from day to day and hour
to hour depending on Sam Curran's accent.
Cheers,
Mike
RH156RH
Apr 2, 2021, 11:50:51 AM4/2/21
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max.it
Apr 2, 2021, 2:13:35 PM4/2/21
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 14:43:42 +0100, Mike Holmans <sp...@jackalope.uk>
wrote:
The hardcore loyalists here consider themselves as having
'Englishness'.
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mike
Apr 2, 2021, 5:02:27 PM4/2/21
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usually the MCCU teams play a load of matches against their nearest county,
eg cardiff vs glamorgan, plus the Oxbridge teams play their own matches against
some of the counties usually b4 the county season starts [april 8]. I think the
matches were all cancelled last year becos of lockdown, but this match
suggests they might be happening again.
mike
Brian Lawrence
Apr 3, 2021, 1:26:18 AM4/3/21
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2005. However, that was ended last year. The ECB were supposed to be
taking over that support from 2020.
<https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ecb-to-resume-funding-of-university-cricket-1146903>
The recent match discussed in this thread was a pre-season warm up
which didn't have first class status.
AFAIK there are no f/c fixtures including University teams in 2021 apart
from the 4-day Oxford v Cambridge. That traditional match is set to lose
f/c status after this year.
<https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/universities-set-to-lose-first-class-status-1197074>
David North
Apr 3, 2021, 7:55:57 AM4/3/21
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today: Bradford/Leeds v Warks, Derbys v Cardiff and Yorks v Durham UCCE.
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Richard Dixon
Apr 3, 2021, 8:06:45 AM4/3/21
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On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 16:50:51 UTC+1, anywh...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I must confess toying with very PC Dixon is great fun. I know it is shooting fish in a barrel but we all have our guilty pleasures... ... RH
Can I ask - when your cases are under review, where do you send these reviews to?
> I must confess toying with very PC Dixon is great fun. I know it is shooting fish in a barrel but we all have our guilty pleasures... ... RH
They sound awfully important.
Richard Dixon
Apr 3, 2021, 8:25:28 AM4/3/21
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On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 14:43:44 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
> >Oh the oozing of self-importance! I do love the fact that RH thinks his opinion actually makes a jot of a difference to De Caires' chances.
> I think it's even more amusing that "Englishness", a trait which he
> usually claims is invariable, is actually subject to constant review.
> At any moment, our pathetic windbag can announce that someone has
> become, or has stopped being, "English" - whatever he decides being
> English cureently means, since that changes from day to day and hour
> to hour depending on Sam Curran's accent.
I wonder who he sends all this effort to? And all those interminable end-of-season list of who's got dark skin or not?
> >Oh the oozing of self-importance! I do love the fact that RH thinks his opinion actually makes a jot of a difference to De Caires' chances.
> I think it's even more amusing that "Englishness", a trait which he
> usually claims is invariable, is actually subject to constant review.
> At any moment, our pathetic windbag can announce that someone has
> become, or has stopped being, "English" - whatever he decides being
> English cureently means, since that changes from day to day and hour
> to hour depending on Sam Curran's accent.
I seem to recall him trying to awkwardly sidestep the Sam Curran accent issue by trying to get us to decide.
Richard
Mike Holmans
Apr 3, 2021, 10:51:36 AM4/3/21
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 05:25:27 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
<richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 14:43:44 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
>> >Oh the oozing of self-importance! I do love the fact that RH thinks his opinion actually makes a jot of a difference to De Caires' chances.
>> I think it's even more amusing that "Englishness", a trait which he
>> usually claims is invariable, is actually subject to constant review.
>> At any moment, our pathetic windbag can announce that someone has
>> become, or has stopped being, "English" - whatever he decides being
>> English cureently means, since that changes from day to day and hour
>> to hour depending on Sam Curran's accent.
>
>I wonder who he sends all this effort to? And all those interminable end-of-season list of who's got dark skin or not?
I suspect it's sufficient simply to post to Usenet. The cricket
<richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, 2 April 2021 at 14:43:44 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>
>> >Oh the oozing of self-importance! I do love the fact that RH thinks his opinion actually makes a jot of a difference to De Caires' chances.
>> I think it's even more amusing that "Englishness", a trait which he
>> usually claims is invariable, is actually subject to constant review.
>> At any moment, our pathetic windbag can announce that someone has
>> become, or has stopped being, "English" - whatever he decides being
>> English cureently means, since that changes from day to day and hour
>> to hour depending on Sam Curran's accent.
>
>I wonder who he sends all this effort to? And all those interminable end-of-season list of who's got dark skin or not?
authorities avidly consume his wisdom, although they never acknowledge
his profound insights in public - probably to appease the pc liberal
bigots, which will also be the reason that they never actually take
the sensible measures he suggests (although they would very much like
to).
>I seem to recall him trying to awkwardly sidestep the Sam Curran accent issue by trying to get us to decide.
world, and Dan Lawrence, that Lawrence bowls leggies.
Cheers,
Mike
RH156RH
Apr 3, 2021, 10:54:56 AM4/3/21
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