uk.singles Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
fa...@pcserv.demon.co.uk
Not so Frequently Asked Questions in uk.singles
This FAQ is available on the World Wide Web at
http://www.bestiary.com/singles/faq.html. There is also a UK mirror at
http://www.mimir.com/singles/faq.html. It is also posted in ASCII form
to uk.singles every two weeks or so. The World Wide Web version is
easier to read.
Last Modified: Fri 18th July 1997.
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The Questions
Questions marked with an asterisk [*] are loaded questions that people
don't really ask, but we want you to read the answers to.
1. What is uk.singles all about?
2. [*] How do I make my articles enjoyable to read?
3. What kinds of things should I avoid posting?
4. [*] How long should I read the group before posting?
5. How do I get rid of the spam?
6. WTF are all those abbreviations?
7. What's a boink?
8. Are there uk.singles pages on the web?
9. [*] Bonus Question: What's the difference between a nerd and a
geek?
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1. What is uk.singles all about?
See the Mini-FAQ for a good description. Basically, we're a chat
group, and most of us seem to share common interests and a similar
sense of humour.
By the way, you don't have to live in the UK to post, and you don't
have to be single. I don't fit either category.
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2. How do I make my articles enjoyable to read?
By making an effort and being considerate to your readers.
* Know your audience. People read uk.singles to relax, have fun, and
make friends. So be relaxing, fun and friendly. And original.
* Make sure you have something to say. If not, we suggest misc.test
as a better newsgroup. And you'll probably get more replies that
way.
* Get to know people. We used to have a thing called the Who's Who,
which gave a bit of information about the regulars. We don't any
more, so you'll have to read the group to find out who everyone
is.
* Be original. Bring new things into the group. Entertain us. Make
us like you. Put effort into everything you post.
* Write good English. If you make it easy for people to read what
you write, you'll come across better. If you don't, many people
will (rightly or wrongly) form a bad impression of you. If you're
dyslexic, use a spelling checker.
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3. What kinds of things should I avoid posting?
Anything that annoys people. To be more precise:
* Adverts for anything (we call it "spam").
* Personal adverts. They belong in uk.adverts.personals. Thank you.
* Spelling flames, unless they're funny. There are several people on
the group who suffer from dyslexia.
* Silly rants telling us how sad we all are. We know we're sad. You
don't need to tell us.
* Stories about children dying of cancer, warnings not to open email
with certain subject lines, cookie recipes, stories about people
killing themselves in amusing ways, and so on. They're all urban
legends, and we've heard them before.
* Rude messages to anyone, even if they're breaking the rules. If
you really must flame someone, please do it by email. This
includes messages telling people to read the FAQ.
There are probably other rules too, but they escape me. However, if
you do something so obnoxious that it inspires me to write a new rule,
you could win a major prize. Go ahead, punk. Make my day.
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4. [*] How long should I read the group before posting?
Glad you asked! The rules for Usenet used to be: Read a group for at
least two weeks before posting. Well, things have moved on a bit since
then, but you should probably have read the group for a few days
before joining in. And when you do, you'll be most appreciated if you
just join in a conversation, rather than starting a thread of your
own. Oh, and if you don't like what you see, just ignore us and move
on. Please.
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5. How do I get rid of all the spam?
Use a kill file. If your news reader doesn't support kill files, then
get one that does. It's not rocket science.
If you use a package called Turnpike, David Reid has written an FAQ on
how to get rid of uk.singles spam at
http://www.davita.demon.co.uk/turnpikekill/turnpikekill.htm.
A good way of getting rid of spam, is to kill anything posted to five
or more newsgroups. Many news readers allow you do it with some
variant of this:
Newsgroups: .*,.*,.*,.*,.*
You should read the manual for your browser to check the exact syntax.
If your news reader does not allow you to kill articles like this,
then you can use some common patterns used in the subject lines:
Subject: .*\$\$\$\$.*
Subject: .*\!\!\!\!.*
Subject: .*\$\$\$.*\$\$\$.*
Subject: .*\!\!\!.*\!\!\!.*
Subject: .*\?\?\?.*\?\?\?.*
Subject: .*SWM.*
However, some people who use this kind of idea have later found that
they have missed genuine threads.
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6. WTF are all those abbreviations?
AFAIK As Far As I Know.
<AOL> Going into AOL user mode. Example: <aol>Me too!!!</aol>
BTW By The Way
C|N>K Coffee through Nose onto Keyboard.
DIMU? Did I Mess Up?
FWIW For What It's Worth
^H^H^H See below, under "Deletia"
HNG Horny Net Geek
HTH Hope This Helps. Usually follows a non-helpful comment.
LDR Long Distance Relationship
LOL Laugh(ing) Out Loud.
MOTAS Member of the appropriate (other, same) sex
ROTFL Rolling on the floor laughing.
RTFM Read The Manual.
[TM] TradeMark -- usually after a Stock Phrase Of Some Kind[TM].
UTS Unattended Terminal Syndrome.
WTF What The Fuck
YAxAICM5Fy You Are x And I Claim My 5 Free y.
YM You Mislept.
There are also a number of stock words, phrases and themes.
Boink
A group get-together. See below.
Deletia
Used as "I mean X, but I'm saying Y". For example, "He is a
fool^H^H^H^Hfine upstanding member of the community!" Each ^H
means "delete a character backwards". Superstars use ^W to
delete whole words at a time: "My personal
prejudice^Wexperience suggests that [...]"
Kay
The resident group deity. For example, "Thank Kay she didn't do
it with a banana!"
Anti-Kay
The resident group Evil Incarnate.
Newsfroup
Common mislepping of "newsgroup". Yes, it is intentional.
Troll
A joke message designed to fool people into flaming the poster.
Try to ignore them.
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7. What's a boink?
It's like a bash, only cuter.
A boink is a get-together of people from the group. These highlights
of the geek social calendar happen whenever people get around to
organising them, but usually about once every two months, on average.
One particularly successful boink that has happened two years in a row
now is Auchenboink, organised by Simon Brooke, and held at his house
in Auchencairn.
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8. Are there uk.singles pages on the Web?
There most certainly are! See
http://www.mimir.com/singles/#singles-info for a list of them.
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9. [*] What's the difference between a nerd and a geek?
Some people on uk.singles like geeks, but not nerds. According to Nick
Leverton, the difference is that a geek is a nerd who knows the
difference between a nerd and a geek. HTH.
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Credits
The original FAQ was written and maintained for the first three years
of the group's history by Duncan Campbell. You can find it at
http://www.bestiary.com/singles/duncfaq.html.
This version is currently falling into disrepair under Pete Bevin.
Thanks to Paul Carpenter for posting the FAQ to the group regularly.
For those who are familiar with this post and know how to use killfiles,
it is possible to avoid downloading this FAQ under normal circumstances
by adding a reference to kill on the following line:-
X-Changes: NONE
When a new version appears this will be modified for the first time it is
posted, hopefully saving bandwidth..
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Posted by: Paul Carpenter of PC Services, on behalf of uk.singles
For details of FAQs, charters available from this site via email.
email: info...@pcserv.demon.co.uk with message ONLY of:-
index
end
Pete Bevin
Marc Wilson <ma...@cleopatra.co.uk> wrote:
>s/two/three
It also says "Last Modified: Fri 18th July 1997". Is anyone going to
volunteer to rewrite it?
Pete.
J M Kemp
Pete Bevin <pe...@bestiary.com> added to the fount of human knowledge
that is uk.singles on Wed, 27 May 1998 at 11:41:36
Depends on how much re-writing it really needs. I'll have a read and see
though if all it needs is a couple of minor changes to update it.
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Jas
Paul Carpenter
ma...@cleopatra.co.uk "Marc Wilson" writes:
-fa...@pcserv.demon.co.uk wrote:
-
-| A boink is a get-together of people from the group. These highlights
-| of the geek social calendar happen whenever people get around to
-| organising them, but usually about once every two months, on average.
-|
-| One particularly successful boink that has happened two years in a row
-| now is Auchenboink, organised by Simon Brooke, and held at his house
-| in Auchencairn.
-
-s/two/three
s/uk.singles/uk.pedants'r'us/
J M Kemp
Paul Carpenter <pa...@pcserv.demon.co.uk> added to the fount of human
knowledge that is uk.singles on Wed, 27 May 1998 at 21:54:57>-s/two/three
>
>s/uk.singles/uk.pedants'r'us/
>
OK. I've already sent the Moose a slightly revised FAQ and an extra
section on the curry boink that Beth asked for. Does anyone else have
any bits they think need updated/changed? I'm not at work until 1 June
so have time to write stuff.
--
Jas
Pete Bevin
I'd be grateful if someone would
(a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
(b) rewrite the thing so it's as good as Duncan's original.
Pete.
Paul Kinsler
Pete Bevin <pe...@bestiary.com> wrote:
> I'd be grateful if someone would
> (a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
> (b) rewrite the thing so it's as good as Duncan's original.
I thought "The Thing" was written by someone else?
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------------------------------+soluble fish+------------------------------
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"You people, you do not see the grandeur in the wind and stone and stars,
in the blood and fire and iron - but paint only the flowers."
X-No-Archive: yes
J M Kemp
Pete Bevin <pe...@bestiary.com> added to the fount of human knowledge
that is uk.singles on Thu, 28 May 1998 at 03:45:20
>J M Kemp <j...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I'm not at work until 1 June so have time to write stuff.
>
> (a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
> (b) rewrite the thing so it's as good as Duncan's original.
OK. I can do that, I do have spare time on a regular basis and I write
stuff for a living so a) & b) are not likely to be difficult.
I also have some space on my website for it.
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Jas
Simon Brooke
In article <E3CEEF840EE00D2B.3E94165F...@library-proxy.airnews.net>,
pe...@bestiary.com (Pete Bevin) writes:
> J M Kemp <j...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I'm not at work until 1 June so have time to write stuff.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone would
> (a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
I'm happy to do this
> (b) rewrite the thing so it's as good as Duncan's original.
But prolly unable to do this.
>
> Pete.
--
si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon
Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite
resin in the bottom of the toolbag.
Nick Leverton
In article <8Tvw1aC+...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk>
J M Kemp <ne...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>
>OK. I've already sent the Moose a slightly revised FAQ
Can you send it to me too, please ? I think I'm the theoretical
custodian of the master copy; I need it for the Web site anyway and to
pass on to Paul Carpenter for the autoresponder and periodic posting.
N.
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Read the FAQ before posting: http://www.mimir.com/singles/faq.html
Haven't time ? Read the Mini-FAQ: http://www.mimir.com/singles/minifaq.html
David Reid
In outpouring of consciousness known as <1998052823520200.TAA18787@ladde
r01.news.aol.com>, MTB0001 <mtb...@aol.com> spake thusly:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>Pete:
>>|I thought "The Thing" was written by someone else?
>
>
No, that's thingy, someone else entirely.
--
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... and moses had a cat, and fed it and looked after it, and the cat
thought "Is it not wonderful how Moses looks after me: it shows how good
I am: I must be a god."
J M Kemp
Nick Leverton <lev...@warren.demon.co.uk> added to the fount of human
knowledge that is uk.singles on Thu, 28 May 1998 at 15:24:29
>In article <8Tvw1aC+...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk>
> J M Kemp <ne...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>OK. I've already sent the Moose a slightly revised FAQ
>
>Can you send it to me too, please ? I think I'm the theoretical
>custodian of the master copy; I need it for the Web site anyway and to
>pass on to Paul Carpenter for the autoresponder and periodic posting.
OK. I'll send you a copy on Sunday evening to give a chance for anyone
else to suggest any changes and me to include them seamlessly. I'll also
have a look at the old FAQ and the current one and the mini-FAQ and the
charter and look at writing something for Simon to maintain. I'll send
whatever the outcome is to you, Paul Carpenter, the Moose & Simon.
(Unless any of you mail me to suggest otherwise).
--
Jas
Richard Letts
Pete Bevin (pe...@bestiary.com) wrote:
> J M Kemp <j...@jmkemp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I'm not at work until 1 June so have time to write stuff.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone would
> (a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
I find it a little unsettling that the people volunteering to update the
FAQ aren't [as far as I know] currently single.
RjL
Stuart O. Bronstein
Richard Letts <ric...@illuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I find it a little unsettling that the people volunteering to update the
>FAQ aren't [as far as I know] currently single.
As they say, those who can't do, teach.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
Mary had a pair of skates;
On ice she used to frisk.
Now wasn't she a silly girl
Her little *.
fa...@pcserv.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: .*,.*,.*,.*,.*
A boink is a get-together of people from the group. These highlights
of the geek social calendar happen whenever people get around to
organising them, but usually about once every two months, on average.
One particularly successful boink that has happened two years in a row
now is Auchenboink, organised by Simon Brooke, and held at his house
Martin W M Bryant
In article <199805292319...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, MTB0001 (mtb...@aol.com) writes:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>RjL:
>>I find it a little unsettling that the people volunteering to update the
>>FAQ aren't [as far as I know] currently single.
>
>volunteering to organise the FAQ and she's lovely. I reread the FAQ and noticed
>that it says that regulars should e-mail directions to the FAQ rather than
>flaming them here. I suggest that either this clause be rewritten or people
>stop toasting the newcomers like so many marshmallows.
>
>
wot and spoil our fun
--
Matin W M Bryant
Times Reader
Sat & Mon only
loadsapills daily
Gordon Harris
In article <6knp1k$aji$1...@idiom.com>, Stuart O. Bronstein
<sab@*idiom.com> writes
>Richard Letts <ric...@illuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I find it a little unsettling that the people volunteering to update the
>>FAQ aren't [as far as I know] currently single.
>
>
--
Gordon
David Graves
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>I reread the FAQ and noticed
>that it says that regulars should e-mail directions to the FAQ rather than
>flaming them here.
IIRC that's how a lot of newsgroups used to work [1], polite prods via
email when someone was waaaay off charter or topic. I think there are
too many web-TVers and such-like ordinary people around now, who will
wade in without lurking or thinking, unless they see something
scarifying happening to others doing likewise.
So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
autres. Otherwise you'd spend your whole life writing polite (and quite
possibly ignored) e-mails while the group goes to hell in a handcart.
[1] according to the old-timers I've heard bemoaning the current state
of usenet...
--
DJG
Gordon Harris
In article <vZTs9PAO...@grav.demon.co.uk>, David Graves
<u...@grav.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <199805292319...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, MTB0001
><mtb...@aol.com> writes
>>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>>I reread the FAQ and noticed
>>that it says that regulars should e-mail directions to the FAQ rather than
>>flaming them here.
>
>IIRC that's how a lot of newsgroups used to work [1], polite prods via
>email when someone was waaaay off charter or topic. I think there are
>too many web-TVers and such-like ordinary people around now,
(Goes into feverish hand-washing movements).
--
Gordon
Martin W M Bryant
oh shit hes shuffling them
Stuart O. Bronstein
The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk>:
>
>>So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
>>autres. Otherwise you'd spend your whole life writing polite (and quite
>>possibly ignored) e-mails while the group goes to hell in a handcart.
>
>go to Hell using public transport.
I'm sure that anyone who is taking public transport already feels as if
he's there.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
"Yesterday scientists revealed that beer contains small
traces of female hormones. To prove their theory, the scientists
fed 100 men 12 pints of beer and observed that 100% of them
gained weight, talked excessively without making sense, became
emotional, and couldn't drive. No further testing is planned."
Alan Wrigley
In message <357272bd...@news.demon.co.uk>
fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk (The Ferret) wrote:
> Thus spake David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk>:
>
> >So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
> >autres. Otherwise you'd spend your whole life writing polite (and quite
> >possibly ignored) e-mails while the group goes to hell in a handcart.
>
> We are trying to get handcarts off the roads and encourage people to
> go to Hell using public transport.
No need. Most people die just waiting for public transport.
Alan
--
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Software engineer, photographer
David Graves
In article <vyyxaHAW...@davita.demon.co.uk>, David Reid
<da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes
>In outpouring of consciousness known as <357272bd...@news.demon.co
>.uk>, The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>
>> We are trying to get handcarts off the roads and encourage people to
>>go to Hell using public transport.
>>
That's a useful short-cut, the people pulling them will already be
there.
They have some modern 'rickshaws' in Edinburgh during the festival now,
pulled by brawny young men. Seems to have caught on a bit with the local
ladies, for some reason. I've seen them being mocked and jeered at by
onlookers though, it must take quite a thick hide. And you never know
when you're going to pick up some nutter (at least cabbies have their
dividing partition to cower behind).
--
DJG
David Graves
>>I think there are
>>too many web-TVers and such-like ordinary people around now,
>*Ordinary people*? In *this* group?
<g> didn't mean to cast aspersions on the present company. But speaking
as an Old Testament prophet of doom, I suspect they can't be kept at bay
forever.
>Yeeuck.
Personally I prefer "Ewww" (pinched from one of Marianne's posts). This
must be attributable to the deleterious affect on my mind of watching US
sitcoms. :-{
>(Goes into feverish hand-washing movements).
I suppose I ought to wash my mouth out too after polluting uk.s like
that.
--
DJG
Stuart O. Bronstein
David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>Rickshaws?
Who is Rich Shaw?
>They have some modern 'rickshaws' in Edinburgh during the festival now,
>pulled by brawny young men. Seems to have caught on a bit with the local
>ladies, for some reason. I've seen them being mocked and jeered at by
>onlookers though, it must take quite a thick hide. And you never know
>when you're going to pick up some nutter (at least cabbies have their
>dividing partition to cower behind).
There are similar things in San Francisco, but pulled by bicycle. There
is no shame to that profession, fortunately or not.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
God made pot. Man made beer. Who do you trust?
--The Irish Times. Washington, D.C.
Katie Alcock
Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
> The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk>:
> >
> >>So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
> >>autres. Otherwise you'd spend your whole life writing polite (and quite
> >>possibly ignored) e-mails while the group goes to hell in a handcart.
> >
> > We are trying to get handcarts off the roads and encourage people to
> >go to Hell using public transport.
>
> I'm sure that anyone who is taking public transport already feels as if
> he's there.
>
>
Why, do you subscribe to the Oscar Wilde "hell is other people" theory? Oh no,
I forgot, you live in the land of the people who have forgotten how to use their
legs...
Katie
--
turn the not into a net to get a real email address...
Charles Bryant
In article <199805292319...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
MTB0001 <mtb...@aol.com> wrote:
> I suggest that either this clause be rewritten or people
>stop toasting the newcomers like so many marshmallows.
I think people should be cautious about flaming as it is better to
convert a personal-posting newcomer into an interesting poster than
to drive them away.
Charles Bryant
In article <vZTs9PAO...@grav.demon.co.uk>,
David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
>autres. Otherwise you'd spend your whole life writing polite (and quite
>possibly ignored) e-mails while the group goes to hell in a handcart.
However people obviously won't be influenced by the flames, since if
they read the group before posting they would have seen the FAQ.
Charles Bryant
In article <iuiheszefyg.pminews@sharra>,
Dave {Reply Address in.sig} <no...@llondel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Bastards cancelled the 20:07 from Streatham Common to Victoria last
>night. I had to wait for the 20:17 to London Bridge and so finally got
>to Kings X too late to catch the non-stop train just before 21:00 and
>had to make do with the slow one at 21:06. Which meant I was half an
>hour late getting home.
The 21:07 from Euston to Rugby was also cancelled, whihc meant I had
to wait for an extra half hour in Euston. Fortunately I wasn't in a
hurry.
Mike Harvey
In article <3572f873...@news.demon.co.uk>,
The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> You *know* damn well what that says on *my* screen.
Well, on /my/ screen the bit you've higlighted reads eer to bec.
Mike H
* Life is complex--it's partly real and partly imaginary
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Stuart O. Bronstein
>> I suggest that either this clause be rewritten or people
>>stop toasting the newcomers like so many marshmallows.
>
>I think people should be cautious about flaming as it is better to
>convert a personal-posting newcomer into an interesting poster than
>to drive them away.
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Martin W M Bryant
In article <decmiaamlmm.pminews@sharra>, "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" (no...@llondel.demon.co.uk) writes:
>>
>It's called a Trishaw in Cambridge. Assuming it's the same thing.
>
>Except there aren't currently any, because the local council decided to
>introduce a stringent test for would-be riders and none of the ones
>from last year have passed it. Fascinating discussion in the cam.*
>groups about it, but my impression is that the test is well OTT and
>that very few even bothered to take it.
>
>Dave
>--
why it is a taxi and taxi drivers take stringent test --so must
they
Martin W M Bryant
In article <199806010040...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, MTB0001 (mtb...@aol.com) writes:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>>Personally I prefer "Ewww" (pinched from one of Marianne's posts). This
>>must be attributable to the deleterious affect on my mind of watching US
>>sitcoms
>
>US sitcoms?
>
>
>--
>-Marianne
yes a apology of us sitcoms should follow >
Katie Alcock
Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
>
>
> As far as walking, I also do that when I can. Just for fun I've taken up
> walking the two miles from my home to the beach, and back, in the
> evenings. Well, when I don't swim.
>
How can you swim _to_ the beach? unless you live in the ocean? maybe you're
walking on water the other days.
> Well, now that you have my life story, are you happy yet?
>
>
if you're doing either of the above I think a lot has remained untold...
K
Stuart O. Bronstein
Martin W M Bryant <mw...@papanui.win-uk.net> wrote:
>
>why it is a taxi and taxi drivers take stringent test --so must
>they
You mean taxi drivers are trained and tested to be sure they can drive
like loons? Sounds about right.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
I am sick unto death of obscure English towns that exist seemingly for the
sole accommodation of these so-called limerick writers -- and even sicker
of their residents, all of whom suffer from physical deformities and spend
their time dismembering relatives at fancy dress balls.
-- Editor of the Limerick Times (Limerick, Ireland)
Stuart O. Bronstein
Katie Alcock <kjal...@usa.not> wrote:
>Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
>
>> As far as walking, I also do that when I can. Just for fun I've
>> the evenings. Well, when I don't swim.
>
>How can you swim _to_ the beach? unless you live in the ocean? maybe
>you're walking on water the other days.
Well, certainly my *mother* believes that I walk on water.
>> Well, now that you have my life story, are you happy yet?
>
>if you're doing either of the above I think a lot has remained untold...
Not only has a lot remained untold, but can you really trust the rest?
After all, how do you know when a lawyer's lying?
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
He saw a Lawyer killing a viper
On a dunghill hard by his own stable;
And the Devil smiled, for it put him in mind
Of Cain and his brother, Abel.
--Samuel Taylor Coleridge, The Devil's Thoughts
David Graves
In article <1998-05-3...@chch.demon.co.uk>, Charles Bryant
<n62205...@chch.demon.co.uk> writes
>>So the argument goes that you have to flame a few pour encourager les
>>autres.
>However people obviously won't be influenced by the flames, since if
>they read the group before posting they would have seen the FAQ.
maybe they do see the FAQ but just don't feel like reading it? There are
plenty of people who seem to blank out FAQs and have a mental block
about reading them, going by the traffic I see on some groups. :(
--
DJG
David Graves
In article <38...@papanui.win-uk.net>, Martin W M Bryant
<mw...@papanui.win-uk.net> writes
>In article <decmiaamlmm.pminews@sharra>, "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}"
>(no...@llondel.demon.co.uk) writes:
[Cambridge Trishaws]
>>there aren't currently any, because the local council decided to
>>introduce a stringent test
>>my impression is that the test is well OTT and
>>that very few even bothered to take it.
>why it is a taxi and taxi drivers take stringent test --so must
>they
Exactly, otherwise the taxi drivers' 'cartel' might be threatened. Maybe
they had something to do with the stringency of the test.
One cab driver once stopped in the middle of London after asking if I
minded if he just popped out to relieve himself. Of course I said yes,
rather than: "no- FFS don't you carry a bottle with you for this sort of
eventuality?"
He popped off to a nearby alleyway, coming back some five minutes later
by which time there was an extra GBP 3 (IIRC) on the clock. I looked in
the extras list to see how much I *should* have been charged for "Cabbie
taking a sl*sh" but it wasn't there. :-(
So I just paid up...
--
DJG
Stuart O. Bronstein
>>>Who is this who dares to profane my name by invoking it in the same
>>>sentence as US sitcoms?
>
>However since I used two sentences I think I may be able to wriggle out
>of this one on a technicality [1]. Phew. ;-)
>
>[1] any lawyers around here prepared to work on this pro bono?
Pro bono *myself* perhaps. But for you, only 120 GBP/hour.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
"'If the law supposes that,' said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat
emphatically in both hands, 'the law is a ass - a idiot.'"
Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens
Stuart O. Bronstein
David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>He popped off to a nearby alleyway, coming back some five minutes later
>by which time there was an extra GBP 3 (IIRC) on the clock. I looked in
>the extras list to see how much I *should* have been charged for "Cabbie
>taking a sl*sh" but it wasn't there. :-(
>
>So I just paid up...
My father once took a cab from London to Heathrow. He paid by credit card
(which isn't *supposed* to be a mistake, but I never will), only to find
that the cab driver had doubled the charge when submitting the slip to the
card company. That is a bit hard to fight from 6000 miles away.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
There is no good arguing with the inevitible. The only argument available
with an east wind is to put on your overcoat.
-James Russell Lowell
Paul Kinsler
David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> One cab driver once stopped in the middle of London after asking if I
> minded if he just popped out to relieve himself. Of course I said yes,
> rather than: "no- FFS don't you carry a bottle with you for this sort of
> eventuality?"
I've heard anecdotal evidence that it is vital to ensure the
bottle has sufficien capacity.
--
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Simon Lane
On Sun, 31 May 1998, Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
> On 31 May 1998 13:28:43 -0700, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
>
> >David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >There are similar things in San Francisco, but pulled by bicycle. There
> >is no shame to that profession, fortunately or not.
> It's called a Trishaw in Cambridge. Assuming it's the same thing.
In fact they are exactly the same vehicles! See my website (url below) for
some pictures if you're interested.
> Except there aren't currently any, because the local council decided to
> introduce a stringent test for would-be riders and none of the ones
> from last year have passed it. Fascinating discussion in the cam.*
> groups about it, but my impression is that the test is well OTT and
> that very few even bothered to take it.
I was the only one to try it. No one else will - it is utterly ridiculous.
There are more details on the 'news' page of my site (url below) if you
are interested ...
Kind regards,
Simon Lane,
Managing Director,
Cambridge Trishaws Ltd.
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Martin W M Bryant
In article <cy5GQrA1...@grav.demon.co.uk>, David Graves (u...@grav.demon.co.uk) writes:
>>they
>
>Exactly, otherwise the taxi drivers' 'cartel' might be threatened. Maybe
>they had something to do with the stringency of the test.
>
>minded if he just popped out to relieve himself. Of course I said yes,
>rather than: "no- FFS don't you carry a bottle with you for this sort of
>eventuality?"
>
>by which time there was an extra GBP 3 (IIRC) on the clock. I looked in
>the extras list to see how much I *should* have been charged for "Cabbie
>taking a sl*sh" but it wasn't there. :-(
>
>So I just paid up...
>DJG
why -- but thats why you are here to learn to say no -- you are
allowed to be stroppy in a black cab-- any disagreement say
nearest police station please and then stay in cab while they get
a rozzer out to see you >
Mike Harvey
In article <f093d54e48%al...@cybervillage.co.uk>,
Would I be right in assuming that the vast majority of people who slag off
public transport are car drivers? If this is so then presumably they don't
actually /use/ public transport very often.
As someone who has a choice of shanks pony or public transport I find
that, in general, public transport in this country is quite reasonable.
OK, so there's only one bus service which covers Forest Park and that
stops running at 6PM Monday to Saturday evenings and doesn't run at all on
Sundays. This is probably because nearly everyone drives everywhere and so
those busses which do run are generally uneconomical.
Mike H
* bad command or filename. Go stand in the corner!
Gordon Harris
In article <6kub31$e81$1...@idiom.com>, Stuart O. Bronstein
<sab@*idiom.com> writes
>After all, how do you know when a lawyer's lying?
>
PCE of course.
--
Gordon
Nhi Vanye
$ from no...@llondel.demon.co.uk -#177819 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
>
>
>On Sun, 31 May 1998 20:38:19 -0400, Katie Alcock wrote:
>
>>
>>Why, do you subscribe to the Oscar Wilde "hell is other people" theory? Oh no,
>>I forgot, you live in the land of the people who have forgotten how to
>use their
>>legs...
>>
>accelerator pedal....
The left one whithers away 'cause they all drive those crap automatics...
>
>
>Dave
>--
vanye---I like to keep my right hand fully fit, so I bought a manual.
--
Sometimes I'm tempted to become a street person, cut off from society.
But then I wouldn't get to wear my outfits.
Ally McBeal:
Paul Carpenter
In article <6kub31$e81$1...@idiom.com> sab@*idiom.com "Stuart O. Bronstein" writes:
-Katie Alcock <kjal...@usa.not> wrote:
->Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
...
->if you're doing either of the above I think a lot has remained untold...
-
-Not only has a lot remained untold, but can you really trust the rest?
-After all, how do you know when a lawyer's lying?
Anytime they speak for starters..
Stuart O. Bronstein
Nhi Vanye <of...@sgi.com> wrote:
>
>vanye---I like to keep my right hand fully fit, so I bought a manual.
Now, just *what* does having a Mexican houseboy have to do with keeping
your right hand fully fit? Hmmmm....
Andrew Marshall
In article <1998Jun1.1...@leeds.ac.uk>, Paul Kinsler
<kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> writes
>David Graves <u...@grav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> One cab driver once stopped in the middle of London after asking if I
>> minded if he just popped out to relieve himself. Of course I said yes,
>> rather than: "no- FFS don't you carry a bottle with you for this sort of
>> eventuality?"
>
>bottle has sufficien capacity.
I have heard of a pilot who, after too many coffees at the departure
airfield, flew a six-seater aircraft westwards across the North Sea and
found himself in severe urinary distress as the aircraft approached the
UK. By various subterfuges he managed to extract the empty lemonade
bottle (capacity not reported) from under his seat and make the relevant
use of it without, he thought, having been observed. After landing, he
was informed by the woman who had occupied the seat behind him that the
reflections in the side windows had been rather entertaining.
Regards,
Andrew.
--
Andrew Marshall.
Unsolicited advertising matter unwelcome. Offenders may be blacklisted.
David Reid
In outpouring of consciousness known as <xagmkheefai.pminews@sharra>,
Dave {Reply Address in.sig} <no...@llondel.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>
>Of course they know how to use their legs. The right one controls the
>accelerator pedal....
>
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evaluation purposes for 30 days. If you wish to hold them for any other
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Stuart O. Bronstein
Andrew Marshall <and...@g8bur.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>I have heard of a pilot who, after too many coffees at the departure
>airfield, flew a six-seater aircraft westwards across the North Sea and
>found himself in severe urinary distress as the aircraft approached the
>UK. By various subterfuges he managed to extract the empty lemonade
>bottle (capacity not reported) from under his seat and make the relevant
>use of it without, he thought, having been observed. After landing, he
>was informed by the woman who had occupied the seat behind him that the
>reflections in the side windows had been rather entertaining.
Oh, do you think he pulled?
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.
But I repeat myself.
-- Mark Twain
Gordon Harris
In article <6kuban$ei9$1...@idiom.com>, Stuart O. Bronstein
<sab@*idiom.com> writes
>Martin W M Bryant <mw...@papanui.win-uk.net> wrote:
>>
>>why it is a taxi and taxi drivers take stringent test --so must
>>they
>
>like loons? Sounds about right.
>
still had a stringent test including "describe the route from A to B (a
cross-town journey) at a particular time of day, quoting every road or
street used, and estimate the journey time" for several values of A & B.
Without recourse to street maps of course, and that was for the esteemed
Black Cab licence.
These are the only vehicles designed for, and allowed to do 40mph U-
turns in crowded streets.
--
Gordon
J M Kemp
Charles Bryant <n35373...@chch.demon.co.uk> added to the fount of
human knowledge that is uk.singles on Sun, 31 May 1998 at 21:23:19
home before Dave got on the train and I saw him at the station. I also
went to bed before he got on the KX train too...
HTH
--
Jas
Dan Glover
In article <3576eb7...@news.demon.co.uk>, The Ferret
<fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Thus spake Mike Harvey <mha...@argonet.co.uk>:
>>Would I be right in assuming that the vast majority of people who slag off
>>public transport are car drivers? If this is so then presumably they don't
>>actually /use/ public transport very often.
Nor would they wish to: the quality of the public has not improved in
recent years and the "experience" is seldom pleasant these days (and
frequently highly unpleasant).
> Most of the worst rants we get are from people who have driven /
>been driven everywhere all their lives and have been "exhorted" by
>Ministers to go on the train, in the face of some imaginary "threat"
>that all the cars in the country are going to be confiscated or
>whatever.
Where "whatever" can be defined as 'taxed to hell and back'.
Consequently we get people who:-
> - bleat about how expensive it is before being told the fare,
> instead of the other way round
As you may recall from Saturday I was entirely happy with the fare from
here to Leeds the other week and this was one factor in persuading me to
go by train for a change. If only the speed/comfort on the Kings X <->
Leeds leg had been matched by the other operators whose services I
needed to use that weekend (Connex SE, LUL, RRNE)... Actually LUL wasn't
too bad (Victorian line) except for the ill-behaved football crowds and
beggars. Still, it is a matter of record over in uk.railway that I am
difficult to satisfy.
> - bleat about how expensive it is "compared with the cost of
> driving - it's 30 miles so one gallon of petrol therefore two
> quid (altogether)"
Although I accept that this is a gross simplification and maintenance
costs (and an element of depreciation) are also incurred in proportion
to mileage, it has to be accepted that once someone has decided - for
whatever reason - to fund the basic and relatively fixed costs of car
ownership (initial purchase, tax, insurance, MoT, age-related
depreciation, parking permit where required, etc) the cost of additional
mileage is insignificant. Oh, BTW the cost of a gallon of petrol is
nearer GBP3 these days, but this has been cleverly disguised by prices
being quoted in foreign units.
Dan
--
Dan Glover (d...@dangl.demon.co.uk)
Today's Excuse:
Someone's tie is caught in the printer, and if anything else gets
printed, he'll be in it too.
mousetrap
<d...@dangl.demon.co.uk> educated us all with:
>
>the quality of the public has not improved in
>recent years and the "experience" is seldom pleasant these days (and
>frequently highly unpleasant).
We *did* wonder whether you had been turning into a hermit these days...
--
mousetrap
mousetrap
<sab@*idiom.com> educated us all with:
>Andrew Marshall <and...@g8bur.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>I have heard of a pilot who, after too many coffees at the departure
>>airfield, flew a six-seater aircraft westwards across the North Sea and
>>found himself in severe urinary distress as the aircraft approached the
>>UK. By various subterfuges he managed to extract the empty lemonade
>>bottle (capacity not reported) from under his seat and make the relevant
>>use of it without, he thought, having been observed. After landing, he
>>was informed by the woman who had occupied the seat behind him that the
>>reflections in the side windows had been rather entertaining.
>
>Oh, do you think he pulled?
Probably not until afterwards if the situation was that desperate...
--
mousetrap
Dan Glover
In article <mzL2HcHI...@cheeseshop.demon.co.uk>, mousetrap
><d...@dangl.demon.co.uk> educated us all with:
>>
>>the quality of the public has not improved in
>We *did* wonder whether you had been turning into a hermit these days...
No, I've always had a tendency to be crabby...
Dan
--
Dan Glover (d...@dangl.demon.co.uk)
Today's Excuse:
Typo in the code
Katie Alcock
Nhi Vanye wrote:
> $ from no...@llondel.demon.co.uk -#177819 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 31 May 1998 20:38:19 -0400, Katie Alcock wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Why, do you subscribe to the Oscar Wilde "hell is other people" theory? Oh no,
> >>I forgot, you live in the land of the people who have forgotten how to
> >use their
> >>legs...
> >>
> >Of course they know how to use their legs. The right one controls the
> >accelerator pedal....
>
> The left one whithers away 'cause they all drive those crap automatics...
>
>
>
> vanye---I like to keep my right hand fully fit, so I bought a manual.
>
What kind of manual? what does it teach you how to do?
Oh yes, it's the manual with the picture of Ginger Spice on the front. I remember,
but why call it a manual? you need instructions?
K
(I'm sorry I couldn't resist, normally I'm very nice...)
David Graves
In article <38...@papanui.win-uk.net>, Martin W M Bryant
<mw...@papanui.win-uk.net> writes
>>He popped off to a nearby alleyway, coming back some five minutes later
>>by which time there was an extra GBP 3 (IIRC) on the clock. I looked in
>>the extras list to see how much I *should* have been charged for "Cabbie
>>taking a sl*sh" but it wasn't there. :-(
>>So I just paid up...
>
>why -- but thats why you are here to learn to say no
No. :)
>-- you are
>allowed to be stroppy in a black cab--
But you aren't even allowed to do basic things like smoke or mess up the
cute little rugs they put over the back seat.
Although I guess that if you offered to pay for the dry-cleaning they
might let you do all sorts of things on it.
--
DJG
David Graves
In article <6kv465$l0a$1...@idiom.com>, "Stuart O. Bronstein"
<sab@*idiom.com> writes
>>UK. By various subterfuges he managed to extract the empty lemonade
>>use of it. After landing, he
>>was informed by the woman behind him that the
>>reflections in the side windows had been rather entertaining.
>
>Oh, do you think he pulled?
If he got stuck in the bottle, yes... :(
I've heard it's possible to get fingers stuck in bowling balls (the ones
with finger holes in), they swell up as you struggle with it so it
becomes a bit of a task to get them out again (I believe).
But I'm not sure that what is true for fingers would have any wider
applicability.
--
DJG
Dan Glover
In article <357a325a...@news.demon.co.uk>, The Ferret
<fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Thus spake d...@dangl.demon.co.uk (Dan Glover):
[stuff about cost per mile etc]
> But the costs of having a car in the first place are astronomical,
>which is why I don't pay them.
As is your right. Having been without a car for various reasons at
various times I've reached the conclusion that it is a necessary evil if
I want to live out here and do the sort of things I want to do without
spending all day getting to and fro. Having shelled out, well I might
as well use the car as fully as possible.
My conclusion might well be different if I lived in the middle of
London, or anywhere else with more than one rail route and bus services
that ran at greater frequencies.
Dan
--
Dan Glover (d...@dangl.demon.co.uk)
Today's Excuse:
Defunct processes
Nick Leverton
In article <3572f873...@news.demon.co.uk>
fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk (The Ferret) writes:
>Thus spake pe...@bestiary.com (Pete Bevin):
>
>>I'd be grateful if someone would
>> (a) volunteer to become maintainer,
[next line indented with 15 tabs, taking the following *well* off the
side of the screen]
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
> Bother. I need to rid this graphics adapter of its Lizzy driver.
I thought Lizzy was quite capable of driving herself.
N.
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Katie Alcock
Dan Glover wrote:
>
>
> > But the costs of having a car in the first place are astronomical,
> >which is why I don't pay them.
>
> As is your right. Having been without a car for various reasons at
> various times I've reached the conclusion that it is a necessary evil if
> I want to live out here and do the sort of things I want to do without
> spending all day getting to and fro. Having shelled out, well I might
> as well use the car as fully as possible.
>
>
But there are very good arguments for, if you have a car, minimising its use -
less wear and tear on the car and better for the environment, for a start. I
never understand why people feel it's so awful to, for example, go to work on
public transport and keep you car for weekends and evenings. (I know a lot of
people do this but others seem to think it's inconceivable) The rush hour
would be so much nicer...
K
Wendy A. S. Taylor
In article <6kurbt$3s...@fido.engr.sgi.com>, Nhi Vanye <of...@sgi.com> wrote:
>The left one whithers away 'cause they all drive those crap automatics...
'Whither are you going?'
said my left leg to my right.
'Why, over to meet Richard
to confirm your sorry plight.'
'Richard, meet my left leg'
'Left leg meet the man
who suggests that you are withered.
Detect it if you can.'
Wendy
Stuart O. Bronstein
>>The left one whithers away 'cause they all drive those crap automatics...
>
>'Whither are you going?'
>said my left leg to my right.
>'Why, over to meet Richard
>to confirm your sorry plight.'
>
>'Richard, meet my left leg'
>'Left leg meet the man
>who suggests that you are withered.
>Detect it if you can.'
Wendy, you're a poet.
And I really didn't know it.
All seriousness aside, in any dispute involving your legs, do you really
think Richard would want to get between them?
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
"Of course I want a man in my life. Just not in my house."
-Maryanna Nunes
Stuart O. Bronstein
Katie Alcock <kjal...@usa.not> wrote:
>But there are very good arguments for, if you have a car, minimising its
>use - less wear and tear on the car and better for the environment, for a
>start. I never understand why people feel it's so awful to, for example,
>go to work on public transport and keep you car for weekends and
>evenings. (I know a lot of people do this but others seem to think it's
>inconceivable) The rush hour would be so much nicer...
Common sense. Isn't that just like a woman?!
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
I don't understand why people break up and then get back together.
It's like going to the fridge, taking a carton of milk that has
gone bad, then saying: "I'll put it back and see if it's better
tomorrow."
-Larry Miller
Paul Kinsler
The Minotaur <wr...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I may not be a glamour-girl
> Of chic and slick design,
> But at least my legs aren't withered
> And they seem to work just fine.
GIF!
--
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David Reid
In outpouring of consciousness known as <357a325a...@news.demon.co
.uk>, The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>
> This is because you made sure you got a value for money fare and
>didn't just do what the average joe does i.e. stroll up to the window
>and say "Leeds please", and then do the same thing for the return
>journey.
>
But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago. Having to plan
months in advance certainly reduces the convenience of any form of
transport.
--
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International Goatkeepers Society, memeber number: 001905
Mike Harvey
In article <6kub31$e81$1...@idiom.com>,
Well, generally speaking, one can see hir lips move.
Mike H
* Women are ultra frustrating....they like to be chased *and* chaste
Nhi Vanye
$ from kjal...@usa.not -#177985 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
>
>
>
>
>Nhi Vanye wrote:
>
>> $ from no...@llondel.demon.co.uk -#177819 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, 31 May 1998 20:38:19 -0400, Katie Alcock wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Why, do you subscribe to the Oscar Wilde "hell is other people"
>theory? Oh no,
>> >>I forgot, you live in the land of the people who have forgotten how to
>> >use their
>> >>legs...
>> >>
>> >Of course they know how to use their legs. The right one controls the
>> >accelerator pedal....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>What kind of manual? what does it teach you how to do?
>
>Oh yes, it's the manual with the picture of Ginger Spice on the front.
Thats where you're wrong, it doesn't have her picture on the front...<fx:
poke tongue out>
>I remember,
>but why call it a manual? you need instructions?
>
Yes...
>K
>
>(I'm sorry I couldn't resist, normally I'm very nice...)
vanye---of course being a geek I probably wont read them, but make it
up as I go along...
--
Even if I get past all my problems, I'll just go out and get new
ones. I like being a mess, its who I am.
Ally McBeal: 2-Mar-98
Nhi Vanye
$ from sab@*idiom.com -#178035 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
>>
>>said my left leg to my right.
>>'Why, over to meet Richard
>>to confirm your sorry plight.'
>>
>>'Richard, meet my left leg'
>>'Left leg meet the man
>>who suggests that you are withered.
>>Detect it if you can.'
>
>Wendy, you're a poet.
>And I really didn't know it.
>
>All seriousness aside, in any dispute involving your legs, do you really
>think Richard would want to get between them?
Well, I'm pretty good at diffusing tense situations... I'll give it a go.
>
>--
> Stu (delete * from email address)
>
vanye---IALJBSHTDI
Paul Kinsler
David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
> for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago. Having to plan
> months in advance certainly reduces the convenience of any form of
> transport.
You forget: To go there by car you need to know the way. The
counterpart of "knowing the way" when travelling by public
transport is a knowledge of how to get timetable information,
and how to get a good fare.
Paul Kinsler
David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
> for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago. Having to plan
> months in advance certainly reduces the convenience of any form of
> transport.
And another: you dont have to plan "months in advance" if you
want a cheap fare (in most cases).
Stuart O. Bronstein
Nhi Vanye <of...@sgi.com> wrote:
>sab@*idiom.com -#178035 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
>>Wendy A. S. Taylor <ccx...@coventry.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>'Richard, meet my left leg'
>>>'Left leg meet the man
>>>who suggests that you are withered.
>>>Detect it if you can.'
>>
>>think Richard would want to get between them?
>
>Well, I'm pretty good at diffusing tense situations... I'll give it a go.
Too bad you mised the Auchenboink. I understand that a lot of people
there were in tents.
--
Stu (delete * from email address)
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
--Albert Einstein
Simon Brooke
In article <6l0hgu$l...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
j...@isise.rl.ac.uk (John Wright) writes:
>
> Those who went gliding at Auchenboink might also wish to know how one
> manages on a *long* flight - to get a silver badge you need to do one
> flight longer than five hours. Men use plastic bags. Women improvise.
Tail gunners on WWII bombers were, allegedly, provided with pipes
leading outboard, gentlemen for the use of. Said pipes, allegedly,
created an unpleasant draft and noise the turret, and were habitually
covered with the famous product of the London rubber Company when not
in use.
Could you not provide a similar fitment in your glider?
Simon, unwontedly coy.
--
si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon
Morning had broken, and we had run out of gas for the welding torch.
Alan H Jones
>(no...@llondel.demon.co.uk) writes:
>>>
>>It's called a Trishaw in Cambridge. Assuming it's the same thing.
>>
>>Except there aren't currently any, because the local council decided to
>>introduce a stringent test for would-be riders and none of the ones
>>from last year have passed it. Fascinating discussion in the cam.*
>>groups about it, but my impression is that the test is well OTT and
>>that very few even bothered to take it.
>>
>>Dave
>>--
>they
>
colleges, but are being forced to learn about all the back streets in
Cambridge. It sounds to ma as though the local Council has gone mad,
but that's nothing new!
--
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
# Alan H Jones * I live each day as though it is my last #
# Manchester UK * ...and one day I know I'll be right! #
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
Gordon Harris
In article <6l1csg$48...@fido.engr.sgi.com>, Nhi Vanye <of...@sgi.com>
writes
>
>vanye---IALJBSHTDI
Would that be "lousy" or "lovely"?
--
Gordon
Gordon Harris
In article <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.uk>, Paul Kinsler
<kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> writes
>David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
>> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
>> for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago.
>You forget: To go there by car you need to know the way.
You also need to know that there is petrol, oil, water, air etc in the
right places. If I used my car as infrequently as I use public
transport I would have to spend more time checking and servicing it than
driving it.
--
Gordon
David Reid
In outpouring of consciousness known as <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.u
k>, Paul Kinsler <kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> spake thusly:
>
>And another: you dont have to plan "months in advance" if you
>want a cheap fare (in most cases).
>
I was months too late for an Apex?
David Reid
In outpouring of consciousness known as <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.u
k>, Paul Kinsler <kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> spake thusly:
>
>counterpart of "knowing the way" when travelling by public
>transport is a knowledge of how to get timetable information,
>and how to get a good fare.
>
possible to get the best fare that late.
Nhi Vanye
$ from Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk -#178092 | sed "1,$s/^/> /"
Yes.
>--
>Gordon
vanye.
--
I don't want to be your other half.
I believe that One and One make TWO.
Alanis Morrisette: "Not the Doctor".
Charles Bryant
In article <6l0hgu$l...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
John Wright <j...@isise.rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>I was told a story by one of our techs last week which purported to be
>true. Another tech had borrowed a porn video from someone, and "liked"
>it so much he wanted to make a copy. Not having two proper video
>recorders, he copied it using a camcorder on a tripod pointed it at the
>screen. Some time later he gave what he thought was the original tape
>back to his mate, only to have his mate come back the next day saying
>"You copied that didn't you?" "nah, I didn't" "Yes you did, I could see
>what you were doing in your reflection off the TV screen...
Actually, I don't think it can be true. A video camera cannot film a
picture from a TV because they are both scanning at the same
frequency. You can sometimes see the effect on TV programmes when
they show a home video which has a TV set in it. Dark bands appear to
be moving up or down the TV image. There are two ways of videoing a
video image: either lock the scanning frequencies of the two systems,
or have the camera use a higher scanning frequency.
Martin W M Bryant
In article <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.uk>, Paul Kinsler (kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk) writes:
>David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
>> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
>> months in advance certainly reduces the convenience of any form of
>> transport.
>
>want a cheap fare (in most cases).
>
>#Paul.
have you taken into account :-
deprectaition of car in rhose two months
petrol price rises etc
cost of new tire(s)
wear and tear on seats etc >
--
Matin W M Bryant
Times Reader
Sat & Mon only
loadsapills daily
David Graves
In article <35736A07...@usa.not>, Katie Alcock <kjal...@usa.not>
writes
>Oh yes, it's the manual with the picture of Ginger Spice on the front. I
>remember,but why call it a manual? you need instructions?
>
>K
>(I'm sorry I couldn't resist, normally I'm very nice...)
But don't the criminal defence lawyers always employ this kind of
defence... ;-)
"This unfortunate snipping of the flower heads in his next-door
neighbour's garden by Mr. Vandal was completely out of character, a
moment of sheer madness and folly that my client deeply regrets and has
no intention of repeating. He wishes to make amends however he can, and
repay his debt to society."
[ie. next time he'll dig up all the flowerbeds and dump manure over
their front lawn instead, and pay a rather large fine...]
We're lucky enough not to have any neighbours from hell here, touching
wood.
--
DJG
David Graves
>>Wendy A. S. Taylor <ccx...@coventry.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>'Whither are you going?'
>>>said my left leg to my right.
[...]
>>Wendy,
>>All seriousness aside, in any dispute involving your legs, do you really
>>think Richard would want to get between them?
What was the old ad catchphrase: "Nothing comes between me and my Levis"
? Almost before my time, that one.
>Well, I'm pretty good at diffusing tense situations... I'll give it a go.
<g> Personally I prefer to _defuse_ them, but I suppose sometimes one
gets the urge to spread things...
--
DJG
Richard Letts
David Reid (da...@davita.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> In outpouring of consciousness known as <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.u
> k>, Paul Kinsler <kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> spake thusly:
>>
>>You forget: To go there by car you need to know the way. The
>>counterpart of "knowing the way" when travelling by public
>>transport is a knowledge of how to get timetable information,
>>and how to get a good fare.
>>
> I can work out the way the night before, I don't think it is often
> possible to get the best fare that late.
no you'll be too late; with Virgin you have to book before 1800 the day
before you want to travel to get the really cheap tickets (and identify
which trains you're going to catch)
oh, and there is also a 0345 number allowing you to ask the cluless dork at
the other end to give you false and misleading information in conflict with
the infromation on www.virgintrains.co.uk [or whereever]. Now if I could
book train journeys via the web I'd be really impressed.
RjL
+----------------------------+
| ric...@illuin.demon.co.uk | Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
+----------------------------+
mousetrap
The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> educated us all with:
>Thus spake "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <no...@llondel.demon.co.uk>:
>
>>>>OK, I need a cheap way to get from home to Cambridge Bus station.
>>Arriving to catch a coach leaving at 7pm. I could get a taxi, but
>>that's not particularly cheap. The first bus to show itself in the
>>village turns up at 7:45am, followed by the last (stopping) bus of the
>>morning about about 8:15. Unless they've managed to hide any other
>>useful ones in the useless bog paper described as a timetable.
>
> BTW you could of course cycle.
I suspect he wouldn't want to leave his bike unattended that long....
--
mousetrap
mousetrap
<Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> educated us all with:
><kin...@bloch.leeds.ac.uk> writes
>>David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> But this is not actually an unreasonable comparison, I can walk out of
>>> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
>>> for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago.
>
>
>right places. If I used my car as infrequently as I use public
>transport I would have to spend more time checking and servicing it than
>driving it.
Why ? Is it pre-1970 ? (Sorry, Dave...)
--
mousetrap
mousetrap
<no...@llondel.demon.co.uk> educated us all with:
>On Tue, 02 Jun 1998 23:50:09 GMT, The Ferret wrote:
>>
>> BTW you could of course cycle.
>>
>several days. Hence trying to avoid taking anything except a couple of bags.
>Neither of which will fit easily on the bike.
You could always make like the Africans and balance one of them on your
head
--
mousetrap
mousetrap
>again :-(
You have been propagating inside the house in error
--
mousetrap
J M Kemp
David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> added to the fount of human
knowledge that is uk.singles on Tue, 2 Jun 1998 at 16:22:04
>In outpouring of consciousness known as <357a325a...@news.demon.co
>.uk>, The Ferret <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> spake thusly:
>>
>> This is because you made sure you got a value for money fare and
>>didn't just do what the average joe does i.e. stroll up to the window
>>and say "Leeds please", and then do the same thing for the return
>>journey.
>>
>my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
>months in advance certainly reduces the convenience of any form of
>transport.
You don't have to plan that far in advance. It is on the order of
remembering to go to the petrol station because you've decided to drive
a long distance. All it takes is for people to buy a return ticket when
they leave.
--
Jas
Beth
Nev Young <nevi...@spamblock.nfy53.demon.co.uk> was saying something
about:
>On Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:38:13 GMT, d...@dangl.demon.co.uk (Dan Glover)
>wrote:
>
>> In article <3576eb7...@news.demon.co.uk>, The Ferret
>> <fer...@chateauferret.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Thus spake Mike Harvey <mha...@argonet.co.uk>:
>>
>> >>Would I be right in assuming that the vast majority of people who slag off
>> >>public transport are car drivers? If this is so then presumably they don't
>> >>actually /use/ public transport very often.
>>
>> Nor would they wish to: the quality of the public has not improved in
>> recent years and the "experience" is seldom pleasant these days (and
>> frequently highly unpleasant).
>>
>IME is is not the quality of the transport that needs to be improved
>but the quality of the (other) passengers.
>
and the age - don't forget the age Nev. Ban all travellers under the age of
something halfway decent like 22......
...and while you are at it ban them from town centres too - along with
pushchairs and umbrellas
--
Beth (feeling grumpy)
penned by Beth on 03/06/98 at 00:14
be...@flyboat.demon.co.uk http://www.flyboat.demon.co.uk/
"Virtual" means never knowing where your next byte is coming from.
Paul Kinsler
> >want a cheap fare (in most cases).
> I was months too late for an Apex?
"In most cases".
Paul Kinsler
David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I can work out the way the night before, I don't think it is often
> possible to get the best fare that late.
Me, I vote for the introduction of road tolls.
Martin W M Bryant
In article <6l1icv$b...@caleddon.jasmine.org.uk>, Simon Brooke (si...@caleddon.jasmine.org.uk) writes:
>In article <6l0hgu$l...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
> j...@isise.rl.ac.uk (John Wright) writes:
>>
>> Those who went gliding at Auchenboink might also wish to know how one
>> manages on a *long* flight - to get a silver badge you need to do one
>> flight longer than five hours. Men use plastic bags. Women improvise.
>
>Tail gunners on WWII bombers were, allegedly, provided with pipes
>leading outboard, gentlemen for the use of. Said pipes, allegedly,
>created an unpleasant draft and noise the turret, and were habitually
>covered with the famous product of the London rubber Company when not
>in use.
>
>Could you not provide a similar fitment in your glider?
>
>Simon, unwontedly coy.
>
>--
funnel and long tube for coach journeys on rugby tours essential
items
Martin W M Bryant
In article <1998-06-0...@chch.demon.co.uk>, Charles Bryant (n49766...@chch.demon.co.uk) writes:
>In article <6l0hgu$l...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
how did you find out bro >
Martin W M Bryant
In article <t3xm33AN...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon Harris (Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk) writes:
>In article <1998Jun2.1...@leeds.ac.uk>, Paul Kinsler
>>> my front door now, get in my car and go somewhere and get the same value
>>> for money as if I had planned the journey 2 months ago.
>
>
>You also need to know that there is petrol, oil, water, air etc in the
>right places. If I used my car as infrequently as I use public
>transport I would have to spend more time checking and servicing it than
>driving it.
>
>Gordon
air is availible around the world >
Mrs Campbell
ma...@cleopatra.co.uk (Marc Wilson) wrote:
>Paul Kinsler wrote:
>
>|Pete Bevin <pe...@bestiary.com> wrote:
>|> I'd be grateful if someone would
>|> (a) volunteer to become maintainer, and
>|> (b) rewrite the thing so it's as good as Duncan's
original.
>|
>|I thought "The Thing" was written by someone else?
>
>John W. Campbell, I believe.
Yeah, he's a relative.
Sue
Katie Alcock
Paul Kinsler wrote:
> David Reid <da...@davita.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I can work out the way the night before, I don't think it is often
> > possible to get the best fare that late.
>
> Me, I vote for the introduction of road tolls.
>
>
Yes, why not. Of course, when they plan roads then they get to put indirect
economic benefits into the equation to see if they are viable, because they
obviously don't generate any income per se; when they plan public transport
services they aren't allowed to do that, only to put costs and income in and
if they aren't profitable on this completely different scale, hard
wensleydale. Wonder why they have more new roads than new train services???
K
--
turn the not into a net to get a real email address...
Gordon Harris
In article <6l2vq3$20...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>, John Wright
<j...@isise.rl.ac.uk> writes
>On 2 Jun 1998 23:51:23 -0000, in <1998-06-0...@chch.demon.co.uk>,
>Charles Bryant wrote:
>>In article <6l0hgu$l...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
>>John Wright <j...@isise.rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>I was told a story by one of our techs last week which purported to be
>
>>picture from a TV because they are both scanning at the same
>>frequency. You can sometimes see the effect on TV programmes when
>>they show a home video which has a TV set in it. Dark bands appear to
>>be moving up or down the TV image. There are two ways of videoing a
>>video image: either lock the scanning frequencies of the two systems,
>>or have the camera use a higher scanning frequency.
>
>time...
I was sceptical too so I tried it and thought it was ok, but a replay
through the tv revealed a single dark band, fixed, not moving.
That applies for a shutter speed of "auto" or 50th sec, faster speeds
leaving a proportionally wider dark band.
All the best stories are apocryphal!
Like the husband who ran off with his mistress and told his wife she
could keep the house, but to sell his Roller and forward the money to
his bank account. She sold it for £10. Dressed up a bit it made a
good story.
--
Gordon