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(Phenology) First daffodil in flower today - Berkshire

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Stephen Burt

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Mar 23, 2006, 5:18:27 PM3/23/06
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Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
flower - at last!

I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
March: so currently some three weeks late.

1993 18 February
1994 - not noted -
1995 18 February
1996 23 March
1997 28 February
1998 20 February
1999 25 February
2000 24 February
2001 11 March - latest in 5 years
2002 1 March
2003 6 March
2004 28 February
2005 6 March
2006 23 March - latest since 1996 and equal latest date on record

My 30 cm soil temperature has only reached 6°C for short periods this
month, still below 5°C this morning.

Stephen

Richard Orrell

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Mar 23, 2006, 5:23:46 PM3/23/06
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That's remarkable Stephen.

It has been mighty cold in South Devon as well this month but daffodils
have been in bloom for 3-4 weeks (if my memory serves me correctly).
They are probably at their best right now.

Our 24-hr mean temp so far this month is +4.8 deg. C (anomaly -1.4 deg.
C eLTA)
Mean Tmax = +8.2 deg. C (I suspect this is where we have gained some
'advantage')
Mean Tmin = +1.4 deg. C

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Elaine Jones

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Mar 23, 2006, 5:42:05 PM3/23/06
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posted on 23 Mar 2006 by Stephen Burt
I would like to add:

> Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
> flower - at last!

None here - not even the Jnuary and February flowering hybrids

> I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
> is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
> the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
> March: so currently some three weeks late.

Given the different flowering periods of the various hybrids are you
using the same variety as a marker?

My named January and February ones usually flower in March but
occasionally in February whereas the later flowering are usually
consistent, for instance Poeticus is late April.

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Weatherlawyer

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Mar 23, 2006, 6:29:47 PM3/23/06
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Stephen Burt wrote:
>
> I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
> is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
> the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
> March: so currently some three weeks late.
>
What do your records have to say about the proverb about March either
coming in like a lamb and going out like a lion or coming in like a
lion and going out like a lamb.

And is it going to be a case of "Oh! To be in England, now that May is
there."? Or does it all come around by then?

Elaine Jones

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Mar 23, 2006, 7:19:00 PM3/23/06
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posted on 23 Mar 2006 by Weatherlawyer

I would like to add:


>

> And is it going to be a case of "Oh! To be in England, now that May is
> there."?

April you mean surely?

> Or does it all come around by then?
>

Not necessarily - I've a vague memory of husband #1 writing satirical
verse re cricket, May and sleet.

Ian Currie

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Mar 23, 2006, 7:36:26 PM3/23/06
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Hello Stephen,
My daffodil first flowering record at Coulsdon,Surrey, in same bed and same
type of daffodil extends back to 1979 and the average date is March 12th. No
sign yet. Latest date April 6th 1996, earliest 22nd Feb 1989. Current soil
temperature 2.5C at 20 cm, 3.5C at 50cm.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon


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Tudor Hughes

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Mar 23, 2006, 9:00:42 PM3/23/06
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It will be several days, I reckon, before my first daff
flowers, though I'm no expert on these matters and have not kept
records. It just seems to be very late. The ground is very dry, the
total rainfall in the last 13 days amounts to 1.8 mm only, and 17.7 mm
for the month.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.

Weatherlawyer

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Mar 24, 2006, 2:26:49 AM3/24/06
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Elaine Jones wrote:
>
> Not necessarily - I've a vague memory of husband #1 writing satirical
> verse re cricket, May and sleet.
>
I take it you are not a big fan of satire.

Tony Powell

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Mar 24, 2006, 2:37:44 AM3/24/06
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Stephen Burt wrote:
> Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
> flower - at last!
>
> I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
> is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
> the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
> March: so currently some three weeks late.
>
> 1993 18 February
> 1994 - not noted -
> 1995 18 February
> 1996 23 March
> 1997 28 February
> 1998 20 February
> 1999 25 February
> 2000 24 February
> 2001 11 March - latest in 5 years
> 2002 1 March
> 2003 6 March
> 2004 28 February
> 2005 6 March
> 2006 23 March - latest since 1996 and equal latest date on record
>
> My 30 cm soil temperature has only reached 6°C for short periods this
> month, still below 5°C this morning.
>
> Stephen

Well I've seen just the odd few out locally near Newbury, Berkshire but
nothing like the abundance we would have had by now in other milder winters.
I can also say that, slowly appearing now are genuine wild daffodils in a
reliable woodland patch which I visit regularly. These being out, nearly
always weeks later than the currently left behind, narcissus-type daffodils.

Interesting

Regards

Tony
Newbury, Berkshire.


Tom Bennett

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Mar 24, 2006, 3:31:53 AM3/24/06
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"Tony Powell" >
<snip>

> Well I've seen just the odd few out locally near Newbury, Berkshire but
> nothing like the abundance we would have had by now in other milder
> winters. I can also say that, slowly appearing now are genuine wild
> daffodils in a reliable woodland patch which I visit regularly. These
> being out, nearly always weeks later than the currently left behind,
> narcissus-type daffodils.
>
> Interesting

Most things have been keeping their heads down here too, although the bulbs
are inching up and two Dicentra (one red, one white) are moving fairly fast,
with some alarmingly fleshy shoots showing since last week. I'm surprised
at that, as they're in the coldest part of the garden, one which gets no
direct sun at all from September to April and where the frost lingers
longest..

We're in for a traditional spring, I think - but one, hopefully, without
that persistent easterly wind that makes the eastern side of this country so
cold, grey and miserable in April, May and (sometimes) June.

- Tom.
Blackmore, SW Essex.


Will Hand

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:11:38 AM3/24/06
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My daffodils are still in bud.

Last first flowerings:

2003 16th March
2004 6th March
2005 16th March

So a bit later this year in upland Devon.

Will. (Haytor, Devon, 310m asl)
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Graham Easterling

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:12:08 AM3/24/06
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The last few years daffs have been in bloom late December here, I have
photographs of fields in full bloom taken Christmas Eve 2004. This year
there were no flowering daffs in my garden until early Feb, although
flower picking on south facing fields started mid-late Jan.

Daffodils in my garden were at there best around 2 weeks ago. All 'dead
headed' now apart from a couple of late varieties, and they are well
past it.

Plenty of celandines out now - at last.

Graham
Penzance

Graham Easterling

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:13:59 AM3/24/06
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The last few years daffs have been in bloom late December here, I have

Will Hand

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:16:39 AM3/24/06
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Indeed. I really cannot see the benefit of having daffodils out in February or
even January in some places as the days are short and there is less time to
enjoy them if you are at work all day. OK if you a professional grower in
Cornwall then it enables you to earn a living but I prefer my daffodils to be in
until March when the days are getting longer and the sun is stronger.

Will.
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Graham Easterling

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:41:28 AM3/24/06
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>Indeed. I really cannot see the benefit of having daffodils out in >February or
>even January in some places as the days are short and there is l>ess time to

>enjoy them if you are at work all day.

>Will.

If you like a grey bleak colourless January landscape that's fine! I
think its the time of year you most need some colour.

I'd rather spend a fine day in January walking through Gwithian Towans
with the blue sea, clumps of yellow on top the hedges, and fields of
yellow in the distance.

In a normal year there's loads of colour by March, celandines,
dandelions, camelieas etc. In January the daffodils and winter
heliotrope make it. Around places like Gulval (just outside of
Penzance) there is often so much colour, it can make a winters day feel
like summer.

Graham

Will Hand

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Mar 24, 2006, 5:10:59 AM3/24/06
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"Graham Easterling" <gra...@easterling.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >Indeed. I really cannot see the benefit of having daffodils out in >February
or
> >even January in some places as the days are short and there is l>ess time to
> >enjoy them if you are at work all day.
>
> >Will.
>
> If you like a grey bleak colourless January landscape that's fine! I
> think its the time of year you most need some colour.
>

Ah yes but what a contrast when Spring arrives in April!

Winter is not always bleak and grey on Dartmoor it can be very beautiful with
brown heather, dead bracken etc contrasting with white snow or frost. Even
without the snow when the sun is out the moors show various shades of yellow,
green and brown. Then what a joy when Spring arrives and the flowers come out
and the grass turns green and the gorse begins to flower. Guess beauty is in the
eye of the beholder.

Cheers,

Will.
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Nick G

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Mar 24, 2006, 5:36:33 AM3/24/06
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>>Plenty of celandines out now - at last.

Went for a walk last weekend and noticed the celandines are out here too in
the woodlands and along some of the roadsides.

As for the daffs, they have been in bloom for about a month, and are just
about at their best but I suspect with the warmer temperatures they will be
over soon.

I also noticed the bluebells are coming up everywhere, with a good spell of
warm weather we may get to see them flower before April is out.
_______________
Nick G
Exe Valley, Devon
45 m amsl


Bernard Burton

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Mar 24, 2006, 4:34:09 AM3/24/06
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I saw my first bumble bee of the season, afternoon 23rd.

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Adrian D. Shaw

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Mar 24, 2006, 11:08:41 AM3/24/06
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Felly sgrifennodd Will Hand <wi...@lyneside.demon.co.uk>:

>My daffodils are still in bud.

So are ours, except for one brave flower which opened up last Sunday (19th).
We have hundreds of daffodils in our garden, so I suppose one freak is
not surprising.

Usual date of opening: just about in time for St David's Day.

Adrian (12 miles ESE Aberystwyth, 260m/860ft asl)

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Paul Hyett

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Mar 24, 2006, 1:15:09 AM3/24/06
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In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Stephen Burt
<U...@reo.demon.co.uk> wrote :

>Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
>flower - at last!
>
>I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
>is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
>the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
>March: so currently some three weeks late.
>

>2006 23 March - latest since 1996 and equal latest date on record
>
>My 30 cm soil temperature has only reached 6°C for short periods this
>month, still below 5°C this morning.

Here, it was Monday (20th) they finally made an appearance.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Dave Ludlow

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Mar 24, 2006, 2:06:23 PM3/24/06
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On 23 Mar 2006 14:18:27 -0800, "Stephen Burt" <U...@reo.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
>flower - at last!
>

>2006 23 March - latest since 1996 and equal latest date on record
>

Weds 22 March here in West Fareham. Bog standard daffs,no special
varieties.

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Paul Hyett

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In uk.sci.weather on Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Bernard Burton <b.j.burton-
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>I saw my first bumble bee of the season, afternoon 23rd.
>

Me2.
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Stephen Burt

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Mar 24, 2006, 3:18:49 PM3/24/06
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> Given the different flowering periods of the various hybrids are you
using the same variety as a marker?

Generally I try to use the same two or three clumps for consistency.
They're not particularly notably early or late compared with other
daffodils in the area, I notice other clumps in the village are just
starting to show too so I believe they are reasonably 'representative'.
I've no idea what variety they are!

In the Bracknell/Wokingham area there is normally a marvellous display
of daffodils on the roadside between the Coppid Beech roundabout and
the hotel. These sometimes appear in mid-January, this year early to
mid-Feb, many weeks earlier than any others in the area, and they are
still out. They must be an extremely early variety.

Weatherlawyer

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:05:45 AM3/25/06
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Ian Currie wrote:
>
> My daffodil first flowering record at Coulsdon,Surrey, in same bed and same
> type of daffodil extends back to 1979 and the average date is March 12th. No
> sign yet. Latest date April 6th 1996, earliest 22nd Feb 1989. Current soil
> temperature 2.5C at 20 cm, 3.5C at 50cm.
>
> I've kept a record of the date of first flowering since 1993. This year
> is the equal-latest on record (along with 1996). The range in dates in
> the last 13 years has been almost 5 weeks, with an average date of 1
> March: so currently some three weeks late.
>
The swans on the local pond usually get rid of their last year's
progeny long before they start nesting. This year the last cygnet is
still around, though ostracised and the pen is brooding as far as can
be seen.

Paul C

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Mar 30, 2006, 4:02:29 PM3/30/06
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On 23 Mar 2006 14:18:27 -0800, "Stephen Burt" <U...@reo.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pleased to report the daffodils in my garden have just started to
>flower - at last!

Jings - mine are beginning to die off

Paul
Troon

Will Hand

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And mine are *still* in bud due to incessant cloud and rain.

Will (Haytor, Devon, 310m asl).
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Brian Blair

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Mar 31, 2006, 11:19:44 AM3/31/06
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Im still sweeping up leaves from last autumn!

brian
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