BBC OTT on heatwave?

Dave Cornwell

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Jun 17, 2013, 6:38:08 AM6/17/13

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Peter Gibbs siad this morning that "Yes, there is a heatwave on the
way". Well to me it looks like Wednesday could be quite hot but surely
it breaks down t he next day before we return to unsettled and average
temperatures. Is that what it's come to, one day is a heat wave in a
modern summer. I am already getting people telling me there is a heat
wave on the way and having to lower their expectations.
Dave

Scott W

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Jun 17, 2013, 7:31:46 AM6/17/13

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Probably a heatwave *relative* to the last few years. It looks like the eastern half of the UK will be brushed by the plume - with the main action 400 miles east over Germany. As you say a "very warm" June day, which is nothing exceptional.

BK

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:35:33 AM6/17/13

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Carol Deadwood on one forecast this morning said it looks like lasting right
through the weekend with a few thunderstorms and showers !

Just pointless forecasting if thats what you can call it..

Rob

Metman2012

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Jun 17, 2013, 10:59:11 AM6/17/13

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According to the Express, it's going to be a tropical heatwave, whatever
that is!

Richard Dixon

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:09:34 PM6/17/13

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On Monday, 17 June 2013 15:59:11 UTC+1, Metman2012 wrote:

> According to the Express, it's going to be a tropical heatwave, whatever
> that is!

It's like a normal heatwave, but it's a variant in that it grabs the attention of closet UKIP-supporting middle Englanders.

Richard

Lawrence13

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:24:03 PM6/17/13

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Sorry but as you've brought politics into this, who are these 'middle Englanders ' you talk off?

Please define them as obviously you seem to have nothing but distaste for them.

Sleepalot

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:33:13 PM6/17/13

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It used to be that a "heatwave" was a period of very high (for UK) temperatures,
but now it just means a period of above average temperatures - which is why
they were able to say there would be many more heatwaves in the future without
actually lying.

Richard Dixon

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:43:44 PM6/17/13

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On Monday, 17 June 2013 17:33:13 UTC+1, Sleepalot wrote:

> It used to be that a "heatwave" was a period of very high (for UK) >temperatures

Isn't it a period of 5 days or more "officially"?

Sadly today anything more than a day of heat = heatwave. Anything more than a day of cold = "The Big Freeze".

Richard

Richard Dixon

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Jun 17, 2013, 12:44:00 PM6/17/13

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On Monday, 17 June 2013 17:24:03 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:

> Sorry but as you've brought politics into this, who are these 'middle >Englanders ' you talk off?

Daily Express readers.

Dave Cornwell

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Jun 18, 2013, 5:01:34 PM6/18/13

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Yes - what has caused this? We have become (well not us obviously) a
Nation of drivel talkers!
Dave

Adam Lea

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Jun 18, 2013, 7:00:01 PM6/18/13

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Is there an accepted temperature threshold for a heatwave, e.g.
temperatures so many standard deviations above-norm for x number of days
consecutively?

The Met Office has thresholds for their warnings of high temperatures,
which is about 32C for London for two consecutive days and a night min
above something like 18C (will be lower for regions with lower mean
temps) but that is probably not quite the same thing.

yttiw

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:11:53 AM6/19/13

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What annoys me, is the constant reference during the first 6 months of
the year to "this will be the warmest day of the year so far" by
presenters.

So what?

What do they expect between January and June? That no day will ever
exceed the maximum on New Years Day?

Tudor Hughes

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Jun 19, 2013, 10:22:25 AM6/19/13

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> exceed the maximum on New Years Day?- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Can't say that bothers me at all, certainly compared with some
of the dimwit phrases used. At least it shows an awareness of the
weather overall. Some places in 1985 had their warmest day on 1
October. Certainly worth mentioning but I don't think it was.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

yttiw

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Jun 19, 2013, 11:18:46 AM6/19/13

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Ok. I am going to have to grin and bear it anyway, especially as today
is bound to be "the warmest day of the year" in many places.

Has "Phew, what a scorcher ! " lost its popularity?

Vidcapper

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Jun 19, 2013, 12:18:05 PM6/19/13

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On 19/06/2013 15:22, Tudor Hughes wrote:

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> Can't say that bothers me at all, certainly compared with some
> of the dimwit phrases used. At least it shows an awareness of the
> weather overall. Some places in 1985 had their warmest day on 1
> October.
>

What about in Oct 2011 - that was even hotter!

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Lawrence13

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:06:17 PM6/19/13

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As long as no one says " El Scorchio".

yttiw

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Jun 19, 2013, 2:31:12 PM6/19/13

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On 2013-06-19 16:18:05 +0000, Vidcapper said:

> On 19/06/2013 15:22, Tudor Hughes wrote:
>
>>
>> Can't say that bothers me at all, certainly compared with some
>> of the dimwit phrases used. At least it shows an awareness of the
>> weather overall. Some places in 1985 had their warmest day on 1
>> October.
>>
>
> What about in Oct 2011 - that was even hotter!

But was that the warmest day of 2011?

In my garden the warmest day in 2011 was June 26th , and the last day
of September that year was warmer than any day in October.

Freddie

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Jun 19, 2013, 7:09:15 PM6/19/13

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:22:25 -0700 (PDT), Tudor Hughes
<tudo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Some places in 1985 had their warmest day on 1 October.

Ditto 2011.

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