I would like to welcome the UK to Israeli style politics
lee
Henry Goodman
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> Which personally I think is a good thing, in some ways...........
Wait till we get proportional representation. Be careful what you wish for.
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Henry Goodman
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D.M. Procida
> Which personally I think is a good thing, in some ways...........
I for one welcome our new Israeli-style political overlords.
Daniele
lee
> "lee" <schotn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Actually I've wanted PR for years, I think its fairer. Plus I could
vote for a proper socialist, or social democratic party, rather than
these Labour charlatans.
Malcolm McLean
>
> Actually I've wanted PR for years, I think its fairer. Plus I could
> vote for a proper socialist, or social democratic party, rather than
> these Labour charlatans.
>
normal hat party gets 40% of the vote, and the no hats at all party
gets 20%. Now all parties are equal - any two can form a government
and ban the form of headgear sported by the third. But in fact the no
hats at party isn't very popular at all. You could say this is
ultimately fair, because ultimately we have to come to some decision
on headgear - there's not much mileage in saying that people are
allowed to wear 40% of a furry hat, for instance. However the fact
that parties have to present lists means that the MP is tied to his
party. Lose his place on the list, and it's very hard to set up a
private party just for himself. Ultimately, should you vote for a
delegate, or for a representative? The representative system is far
more mature.
lee
wrote:
> On May 7, 8:21 pm, lee <schotn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually I've wanted PR for years, I think its fairer. Plus I could
> > vote for a proper socialist, or social democratic party, rather than
> > these Labour charlatans.
> The problem is that the furry hat party gets 40% of the vote, the
> normal hat party gets 40% of the vote, and the no hats at all party
> gets 20%. Now all parties are equal - any two can form a government
> and ban the form of headgear sported by the third. But in fact the no
> hats at party isn't very popular at all. You could say this is
> ultimately fair, because ultimately we have to come to some decision
> on headgear - there's not much mileage in saying that people are
> allowed to wear 40% of a furry hat, for instance. However the fact
> that parties have to present lists means that the MP is tied to his
> party. Lose his place on the list, and it's very hard to set up a
> private party just for himself. Ultimately, should you vote for a
> delegate, or for a representative? The representative system is far
> more mature.
Seems to work quite adequately for the the rest of western/post
enlightenment Europe, by which I include Israel btw!
Malcolm McLean
>
> Seems to work quite adequately for the the rest of western/post
>
I think the Israeli system only works because the country is in a
permanent state of emergency. Take away the external threat and the
political class would tear itself apart.
However in Britian we have a government. How it's going to work out
for Jews and for Israel I don't know. The Israel-Palestine issue has
become a totem for the trendy left, and the Conservatives are
instinctively opposed to them whilst the Liberals are in favour.
Meanwhile there are all sorts of potential issues over shechita
(kosher slaughter), circumcision, Jewish education, male-only
organisations, even furry hats, which might come to the surface. So
it's hard to make a prediction.